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Scarlett Johansson on screen and stage[edit]

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Nominator(s): Cowlibob (talk) 20:19, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Scarlett Johansson is an American actress who has starred in films such as Lost in Translation, and more recently in Marriage Story and Jojo Rabbit. Her most prominent role to date is as Black Widow in the highly successful MCU film franchise. This is a list which covers all of her screen and stage roles to date. As always I welcome all constructive comments on how to improve it. Cowlibob (talk) 20:19, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:30, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Suggest merging sentences 3 and 4 together and the same with sentences 5 and 6, as they are very short
  • "in Sofia Coppola-directed Lost in Translation" => "in the Sofia Coppola-directed Lost in Translation"
  • In that sentence, do you really need (2003) in brackets after both film titles, given that you started the sentence with "two years later", which makes the year clear?
  • Same with the sentence about 2008
  • "in Joss Whedon-directed The Avengers" => "in the Joss Whedon-directed The Avengers"
  • "....in 2012. The following year, she starred in the 2013 Broadway revival" - 2013 is redundant here
  • "In 2019, she starred as Romanoff / Black Widow" - maybe say "In 2019, she played the character again", to avoid repetition
  • "in Noah Baumbach-directed comedy-drama Marriage Story" - guess ;-)
  • Music videos - ""When the Deals Goes Down" - is that actually the title of the song? It looks incorrect
  • Think that's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:24, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: Thanks for the review. I think I've sorted the above comments. Cowlibob (talk) 11:00, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Aoba47

  • For this part (and in 2001 she appeared with Thora Birch and Steve Buscemi in the black comedy Ghost World.), I believe there should be a comma between "2001" and "she".
  • In the first paragraph, there are two sentences in a row start with (Two years later) so I would revise one to avoid repetition.
  • I am somewhat uncertain about this part (In the same year, Johansson played a woman going through a divorce in the Noah) since the previous sentence mentions films released in three different years. It may be obvious from context, but I'd be uncertain if someone who is not too familiar with Johansson's work would understand which year is being referenced here.
  • I have a comment for this part (for both performances in the Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress categories respectively). I have always been told that there should be a comma before "respectively".
  • Do you think the lead should mention Black Widow?
  • Is there a particular reason why Cat on a Hot Tin Roof is included in the lead, but her earlier stage work in A View from the Bridge is not?
  • Is there a reason why Ghost in the Shell is not mentioned in the lead? Johansson's role in the film received a lot of media attention at the time of its release, mostly negative though.

I hope my comments are helpful. Once they are addressed, I will support this for promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 01:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: Thanks for your comments. I have edited the lead and rephrased the relevant sentences. I don't know how I forgot to mention her Tony Award-winning Broadway debut. Black Widow hasn't been released yet so I haven't mentioned it. I've not mentioned her role in Ghost in the Shell as the media attention was more about the casting (which is really the purview of the director/producer) rather than her performance. Much like Emma Stone's filmography wouldn't mention Aloha. It's also a pretty minor entry in her filmography that won't be talked about in a decade. Cowlibob (talk) 08:53, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for the delay in my response. Thank you for the explanations. I would make sure to add Black Widow when it does get released. The media attention around Ghost in the Shell was certainly about casting, but Johansson's "I Should Be Able to Play Any Person, Tree, or Animal" comments did not help matters. I disagree with this, "a pretty minor entry in her filmography that won't be talked about in a decade", but only time will tell. Since Stone's filmography does not mention the Aloha casting controversy, I understand your rationale better. Thank you for bringing that up. I was just concerned that the lead may read as too positive, because while Johansson is undoubtably a talented actor with tremendous success, she has hit some rough patches. However, upon further reflection, I agree with you and I support this for promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 00:46, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from User:SNUGGUMS
  • The file source for File:Scarlett Johansson 4, 2012.jpg doesn't work, so I recommend using a different image in place, preferably at a film-related event when this covers her filmography
  • "Woody Allen-directed" from "starred in Woody Allen-directed psychological thriller" doesn't read very well; I'd replace it with "Woody Allen's"
  • "in the Noah Baumbach-directed comedy-drama"..... same issue as before
  • Using both "Natasha Romanoff" and "Black Widow" at the same time is rather much for the prose. I'd use one or the other here, and save the slash for tables.
  • No mention of Avengers: Age of Ultron or Avengers: Infinity War in the lead? That seems like a glaring omission given her prominence in both!
  • Italicize TV Guide
  • Don't use MobyGames per WP:WikiProject Video games/Sources

It should be good to go once the above is all resolved. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:39, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@SNUGGUMS: Thanks for your review. I think I've sorted the above. Cowlibob (talk) 14:59, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looking better now, so I support and will assume good faith that File:Scarlett Johansson Césars 2014.jpg is in fact the uploader's own work when there's no evidence to suggest otherwise. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 18:59, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Guerillero

  • Rotten Tomatoes as a non-aggregator looks doesn't look like a RS to me
  • Newspapers/sources are inconstantly linked. I would either always link or never link. Trying to find the first instance is a recipe for failure due to how an article shifts over time

Those are the only sourcing issues that I see --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 06:54, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Guerillero: I think I've sorted the above, replaced Rotten Tomatoes and linked the publishers in the refs. Cowlibob (talk) 14:59, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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