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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 12:25, 3 September 2023 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of songs recorded by Olivia Rodrigo[edit]

List of songs recorded by Olivia Rodrigo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): NØ 12:02, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is the list of songs recorded by American singer-songwriter Olivia Rodrigo. Don't think miss Rodrigo needs much of an introduction, she is the girl with the song about the driving license or whatever. Thanks a lot to everyone who will take the time to give their feedback here.--NØ 12:02, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pseud 14[edit]

  • she assumed a starring role in High School Musical: -- she starred in High School Musical
  • The alt text Taylor Swift is a glittery dress -- minor typo - should be in'
  • I think "References" should instead be a section after Songs and before External links
  • I am a bit confused. Isn't that currently the order?
  • Thanks for the review, Pseud 14! I have addressed two of the comments and posed one clarification question.--NØ 14:49, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Apologies if I am second-guessing another editor, but I think Pseud might be referring to the fact that "References" appears on the TOC below the heading "Songs", which makes it look like it is a sub-section of "Songs"...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:50, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oop, kind of embarrassing I didn't understand that lol. Should be done now, Pseud 14.--NØ 15:54, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry for the confusion, I think the "Notes" in the samples threw you off. My bad on the lousy explanation and also thanks Chris! Appreciate it. :) Happy to support. Pseud 14 (talk) 15:59, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • I would say the whole of "Bizaardvark (Music from the TV Series)" should be italicised in the lead, as it's the full title of the release
  • Is the "Indicates songs written solely by Olivia Rodrigo" notation really necessary? Surely the fact that hers is the only name in the songwriter column indicates this without the additional need for colour and a symbol......?
  • You have "(cover)" after "River", but not after "Breaking Free", which is also a cover....?
  • That's it from me! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:12, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the review, Chris! I have seen the solely-written songs notation on several FLs including the Gaga one above. With regards to Rodrigo, songwriting is a big part of her marketing and the fact that she contributed two solo-written songs to High School Musical soundtracks seems at least a little unusual and worth highlighting.--NØ 17:29, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review[edit]

Will try not to screw up. Version reviewed

Formatting

  • fn 2: Geena Davis Institute on Gender in Media should not be italicised
  • fn 11: seems to be Vulture's website, not NYMag. While Vulture is *technically* NYMag, I feel like it would be more helpful to link to Vulture.
  • fn 11: mark as |url-access=limited
  • fn 15: LISTEN → Listen (MOS:ALLCAPS)
  • fn 19: Apple Music should not be italicised
  • Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE, the consistent...ise the capitalisation in citation titles, either title-case (refer to MOS:5LETTER) or sentence-case

Reliability

  • fn 1, 2, 19: while they are reliable, I feel like better sources could be used. This suggestion is just my personal opinion and completely optional
  • I would say 1 and 19 are fine for the purposes they are used. I wasn't too happy about having to use the Geena Davis Institute but there doesn't seem to be an alternative.
  • What makes Junkee a high-quality reliable source?
  • I was satisfied by the About page, which shows a multi-staff team and editors. The author, Jules Lefevre, has written for reputed sources like NME, Sydney Morning Herald, and Yahoo, so I would say it is fine to source a genre.

Verifiability

  • fn 6: it says she "encouraged her to write for the series" and that "All I Want" was "one of her songs" but not anything that explicitly says it's solo-written. Or am I just missing something?
  • fn 15: clear
  • fn 21: clear

Great list with mostly very minor concerns. Ping me in your replies! Pamzeis (talk) 08:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the prompt source review, Pamzeis. I especially appreciate it since two of my FLCs are apparently indefinitely stalled because of the lack of one... Anyways, the review comments should all be addressed now.--NØ 11:31, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are they still at FLC? I might be able to take a look at them if you'd like. But, anyways, this passes my source review. BTW, I'd appreciate any comments at an FLC of mine. Pamzeis (talk) 13:37, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Comments by Gerald Waldo Luis[edit]

The tables look all good for me, so I'mma just review the lead. GeraldWL 07:02, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from GeraldWL 08:35, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
* "In 2016, Rodrigo and her Bizaardvark co-star Madison Hu" --> "In 2016, Rodrigo and Madison Hu, who had worked with her on the TV series Bizaardvark,"
  • Would prefer not to do this since it is more convoluted, and people looking to find what Bizaardvark is can click the link, no?
  • From what I learned from doing FARs and GANs, it's generally better if we elaborate abit on stuff like this. Per my former FAC mentor, "you really want to have a minimum viable article where I don't have to link away from the article to get the gist."
  • "its soundtrack EP, Bizaardvark (Music from the TV Series)" -- repetition --> "its soundtrack EP of the same name"
  • "including the solo-written "All I Want" (2019) and "The Rose Song" (2021), and a cover of Joni Mitchell's "River"." Why are there two "and"s?
  • To denote the Joni Mitchell song isn't written by Rodrigo.
  • I think if you remove the first "and", it still won't retract the meaning, considering you mentioned it is a cover. If we put the full sentence, "She contributed several songs to its soundtracks, including the solo-written "All I Want" (2019), "The Rose Song" (2021), and a cover of Joni Mitchell's "River"." People would still get it's not a Rodrigo original song.
  • I assume the three references are for the respective songs; you can actually move each of them to each song. So like "including the solo-written "All I Want" (2019)[1] and "The Rose Song" (2021),[1] and a cover of Joni Mitchell's "River"[1]" But this is optional, since it doesn't really add or substract to the quality
  • Would rather avoid this since it would get in the way of people reading the sentence. Only four or more refs together is considered an overkill, generally.
  • Should prob link to white house
  • Done.
  • "for movie soundtracks"-- WP prefers using film over movie
  • Done.
  • In the liner notes ref "Cast of High School Musical", "High School Musical" should prob be in italics?
  • It shouldn't since "Cast of High School Musical" is treated as an artist name.
Thanks for the comments, Gerard WL.--NØ 07:58, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Since you insist, Gerard WL, I have now also made the remaining two changes. Thanks and regards.--NØ 06:40, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looks all good now, so I'm supporting this FLC. Just quick comment though, Junkee and Rappler are websites and should be in that parameter. Also if you're interested, I have a PR up that's still seeking comments.
  • Drive-by comment The lead is incredibly brief. It's less than 1,500 characters long, which wouldn't even qualify it for WP:DYK, never mind WP:FL. Sour was one of the biggest albums of 2021, and this article contains all of two sentences about the songs from it. I'm afraid that I'm reading the lead and thinking, is that it? Featured lists by similar artists (e.g. Sky Ferreira, Dua Lipa, Ella Henderson, Miley Cyrus, Lana Del Rey) all have considerably longer leads. Is there really nothing else that you can say? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 08:58, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, Sour was one of the biggest albums of 2021 and that fact is amply celebrated on her discography page with hefty paragraphs. This lead's purpose is to summarize this list's content, which it amply does by exploring all projects recorded by Rodrigo with equal weightage. Within this list's context, there is not much to say about Sour other than its genres and that it was co-written with Nigro. DYK is primarily an article-oriented process so bloating a list's lead section just to qualify for it is almost always detrimental to the list's quality. Anyways, it will cross 1.5k characters when more details about Guts's composition become available in a few days. By the way, Miley and Lana have way more albums than Rodrigo so those are obviously larger. The Lipa list is not a good example and probably needs reassessment because of that terribly referenced Unreleased songs section.-NØ 11:43, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh[edit]

Article overall looks good. Not seeing an image review so I'll focus on that.

Image review: Passed

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Support -- Hey man im josh (talk) 13:09, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. --PresN 02:51, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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