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List of songs recorded by Britney Spears[edit]

Nominator(s): Saiff Naqiuddin (talk) 11:06, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Once Again, I am nominating this for a featured list along with Javila200084898 because I believed that this page already meets FL Criteria and guidelines, Javila200084898 and I are the most contributed to this page. First, as you can see in the previous version which is the table, date, sources, font, and else is a reallu mess so I've made my contributed to clean all the mess until it meets the criteria. In terms of reference, the reference of the previous version is very incomplete and I've resolved this problem. The Lead, Prose, Comprehensiveness is created by Javila200084898 and I believed that the sentence doesn't need the copyediting also in that section I only solved the problem of the date to make all of the dates are consistent. Saiff Naqiuddin (talk) 11:06, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

The lead is too long and needs trimming. This could be accomplished by removing stuff which isn't really about her songs e.g. "Unlike all of Spears' previous albums, Blackout was not heavily promoted through magazine interviews, talk-show appearances or televised performances besides a performance at the 2007 MTV Video Music Awards and was not accompanied by a tour either" - none of that is really relevant to a list of her songs. I'm not convinced that most of the final paragraph is relevant either. -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:20, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree that the lead is too long – to the point where it distracts from the actual list. Aza24 (talk) 18:25, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - Pass[edit]

Will do shortly Aza24 (talk) 18:25, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ref 2 link isn't working for me (it's going to the home page I think)
ref 3 link is broken for me
ref 4 doesn't need NPR twice. If the publisher and website are similar enough then only one is needed
ref 10 missing author
ref 18 missing date and retrieval date
ref 22 missing author
The liner note refs look good
Since you're linking publishers, ref 53 AllMusic can be linked
refs 57 and 44 is formatted differently than the other liner notes
why does ref 60 link to discogs? Discogs is user generated content and is not a reliable source
why is the Japanese edition formatted differently for refs 43 and 44?
That's all I got – reliability is fine besides the discogs. I was hesitant about sourcing Spears' official website, but since it's published by Sony I think it's fine. Aza24 (talk) 02:04, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's been absolutely no move to shorten the lead since I pointed out three weeks or so ago that it was far too long, so it's an oppose from me unless there's some movement in that regard...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:02, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Saiff Naqiuddin: are you planning on returning to this? Aza24 (talk) 07:26, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Saiff Naqiuddin: ? Aza24 (talk) 09:18, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aza24: I am really really sorry for the late reply, lately, I'm so busy with SPM's trial so that's why I didn't really active on Wikipedia. Okay so back to your comment. I'll repair the sources as soon as possible and yup I'm returning to this. Saiff Naqiuddin (talk) 11:32, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have solved all the problems as stated by @Aza24: and @ChrisTheDude:. Saiff Naqiuddin (talk) 07:46, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- Pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 16:46, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on the new lead

New lead is much better, but I picked up the following:

"reached the top position of every major countries charts" - firstly, it should be "every country's charts". Secondly, this is a huge claim to make (every single major country in the world? Really?) without a single source.
"Unlike all of Spears' previous albums, Blackout was not heavily promoted through magazine interviews, talk-show appearances or televised performances besides a performance at the 2007 MTV Video Music Awards and was not accompanied by a tour either" - not sure any of this is relevant to a list of her songs
"just behind Mariah Carey." => "after Mariah Carey"
"Glory the ninth studio-album from Spears was" => "Glory, the ninth studio album from Spears, was"
"failed to reach the success of other comparative Spears albums." - the word "comparative" is not needed here
That's it on the lead, I will look at the list later -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:39, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"28.6 million digital singles in the United States only" => "28.6 million digital singles in the United States alone"
"with 34,5 million certified albums" => "with 34.5 million certified albums" (commma is not used to indicate a decimal point in the US)

Comments from SNUGGUMS

The lead is far too single-centric. This isn't supposed to be a singles discography page. I therefore would also try not to delve too much into charts and sales here. Including some text on lyrics, genres, and non-singles would be nice.
"every major countries charts" is missing an apostrophe, and you can't just presume all readers will know which nations this description includes
"which is notable for being a musical departure from her previous material"..... the use of "notable for" is a blatant personal opinion, and doesn't even describe what the change involves.
Calling a track a "hit" isn't professional tone
Not sure awards are worth mentioning. Either way, "gained her credibility among critics" is irrelevant here.
Per my comments on this not being a singles discography, get rid of the key codes for singles, promo singles, and B-sides

At least until the above is resolved, I must oppose this nomination. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 22:50, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:37, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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