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The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 14:25, 20 July 2008 [1].

List of songs in Guitar Hero: Aerosmith[edit]

Another Guitar Hero list (going to hold out on GH3 right now, the DLC makes that a trickier beast) but this one follows the previous FL's for List of songs in Guitar Hero , List of songs in Guitar Hero II, and List of songs in Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s; there's only one new "trick" that being that credit is specifically given for the cover artists (which has been added) though this may make the "Master recording" column redundant. --MASEM 22:14, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

  • I think "the Boston band Aerosmith. The game's set list has "about 60 percent Aerosmith and 40 percent artists that either inspired Aerosmith, played with Aerosmith, or whom Aerosmith admires"," constitutes overlinking.
  • The lead sentence is one of the longest I've ever seen and doesn't address the general reader who doesn't know what Guitar Hero.
  • I recommend that you locate an independent copy-editor; the prose needs sprucing up.
  • What is the Year column supposed to indicate? Its not immediately evident. What do those little checks in the Master recording column mean; I think you need a key or make it state "Yes" instead.
  • What makes Play.tm a reliable source per WP:RS? indopug (talk) 19:33, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Except for the copyedit, I've addressed these points: I've replaced the play.tm with a better referring source (the actual source is a locked article and thus not usable), and I've indicated what years and master tracks are in the leading prose. --MASEM 20:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looking good! Drewcifer (talk) 21:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved stuff from Drewcifer

Weak Oppose A few sloppy errors, most of which are probably easy to fix. Looking much better, but I'm not quite ready to support. Drewcifer (talk) 04:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • The table should be in its own section.
  • Don't force the bolded/linked title in the lead.
  • The lead is HUGE. Trim it down by at least half, I'd say.
  • Footnote B seems very trivial, ie fancruft. Same with "(Unlocked after completion in Career mode)"
  • Try and mimic the style of the previous FL GH lists. IE. Narrower Year column, "Master recording" not "Master Recording", Bonus songs listed separately, etc.
  • "or the upcoming Guitar Hero World Tour" will be an obsolete sentence in a few months, might as well future-proof it now. Drewcifer (talk) 00:44, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've done the above: specifically, with the table(s) getting their own section, half the lead is now intro into the first table. --MASEM 13:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks better. One extra thing I just realized (that also applies to the past GH lists), per WP:ACCESS an image alone shouldn't be used to denote something, as in the checkmark in the Master recording column. I'd recommend using the {{yes}} template, but getting it to center is kind of an interesting ordeal. Take a look at what I did at Woody Allen filmography to figure that one out. Basically align="center" needs to be applied to the whole row. Drewcifer (talk) 19:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Would you recommended replacing the empty spaces with "no"s as Rambling Man suggests below? --MASEM 23:54, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sure, that's probably a good idea. Thought I'd say use {{no}} rather than just "no". Drewcifer (talk) 04:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • " one specific band, the Boston band Aerosmith." repetition of band makes this read awkwardly.
    • " there are 4 songs that come from lead guitarist " - four, not 4, and "that come" is redundant.
    • "Career mode" or "Career Mode"?
    • I'd prefer to see a {{no}} rather than a blank for those which aren't master recordings. Blank cells in tables worry me!
    • 2x "The Vault", 1x The Vault. Quotation marks or no quotation marks?
    • ref 7 seems to have a rogue closing parenthesis pair?
    • 1UP in ref 7 - two queries - what makes this website reliable and why is it directed at the 1 up article, not the actual publisher?
    • Bonus songs master recording column doesn't really need to be sortable, does it?!

The Rambling Man (talk) 15:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      • All other items listed have been fixed. TWo specifics:
      • On ref 7, 1up is a Ziff-Davis-operated website and thus gets its reliability from there. The 1up article is the source for the DLC information (eg: "1UP has been told that tracks..."), and though while the article points to another site, this is their first-hand information.
        • If you haven't already, I'd unlink the 1UP in the ref because it's misleading. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • On the tables and empty spaces, the rest of the GH song lists have used this approach (checkmark for master, otherwise nothing). It's not that it's a problem to go back and change the others, but, for example, when you go back to List of songs in Guitar Hero, they'll be a lot more "no" than "yes" in that space. If this absolutely needs to be done it can be but I'd rather not only to make it easier to understand the intent. --MASEM 16:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • It's not going to stop me promoting it as long as the community don't mind! I just think blank cells are ambiguous. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • And maybe it's just me but none of my comments have been implemented. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
            • Ooops, the "Save page" button click didn't register. Now they should be. --MASEM 16:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've done some copyediting [2]. I don't want to say support as I'm an irregular here and haven't looked at in full, but I certainly have no objections. —Giggy 04:29, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • The sentence "The majority of the game's set list are works by Aerosmith, but there are also works by artists that have acted as inspirations or touring partners for the band,[1] such as Run D.M.C., The Kinks, and Joan Jett." would read better without the comma and shifting the reference to the end of the sentence.
  • The checkmarks are a problem for users with graphics turned off, or those using a printed version without graphics. I haven't commented on this at previous Guitar Hero lists because I didn't know of any good alternative, other than "Yes", but now I know of {{yes}}. I think this should be used instead. {{no}} or an mdash would be good for the blank cells, too, otherwise it looks like missing information. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • (Hopefully grabbing Drewcifer's attention too) - Fixed the first point, and the entries now use "yes/no" templates. --MASEM 23:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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