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List of international rugby union tries by Shane Williams[edit]

List of international rugby union tries by Shane Williams (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well first came Jonah, then Bryan, now it's Shane. As ever, massive kudos to anyone who has the time and energy to contribute here. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from JennyOz (talk) 13:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment by JennyOz
  • Hi TRM, wrestling with this, counting 29 tries at Millennium Stadium (not 28 per prose and its ref 7). I think I've finally tracked down anomaly - try 23 against Italy on 12 Feb 2005 was in Rome. Can you please check/change before I continue? Thanks, regards JennyOz (talk) 08:54, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Checked and corrected, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:15, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    JennyOz, just pinging you in case you missed this response to your query Jenny. Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 19:09, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi TRM, been busy with Comm Games. Now they're over, I'll hopefully get time to get back to this in next few days:) JennyOz (talk) 04:33, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    JennyOz, I saw that, no problem at all! The Rambling Man (talk) 11:10, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

  • In those appearances, Williams scored two tries, both during the Lions' victory over South Africa on the 2009 tour (a match in which Williams was on the wing). - this sounds like Lions won the series and the winger bit being in brackets is could be tweaked? Maybe reword to something more like: Williams scored two tries for the Lions, both from the wing during their victory over South Africa in the third Test of their 2009 tour of South Africa.
  • Campese for second - place
  • Williams would go on to score tries - went on to? (I don't 'get' the use of 'would' do this or that but just ignore if it's fine by you)
  • at Twickenham, for the most tries scored by a player - insert international before tries
  • His final try was his 28th - 'This' final try? (so sentence doesn't start the same as previous one)
  • All of his tries against the Springboks - needs South Africa in brackets? or Springboks in brackets in previous sentence?
  • The second was against Argentina at Vélez Sársfield in Buenos Aires - Vélez Sársfield is name of team. The Vélez Sarsfield Stadium was renamed to José Amalfitani Stadium (where the redirect eventually lands) in 1968.
  • Williams scored tries against 15 countries - I can only count 14?

Key

  • Draw - Drawn (per your previous decision to use past tense) and you have drawn in table itself.
  • Tries 47 and 48 - would be helpful for counting to give them an asterisk or dagger or similar?

I'll get to table tomorrow, regards JennyOz (talk) 15:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

JennyOz Hi Jenny, thanks as always for your comments, I think I've addressed them all and look forward to your next set. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:14, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
All above tweaks are good, thanks. Table and sources comments following...

Prose - possible wlinks

Table

  • Get rid of temporary sponsor names?
    Try 42 Vodacom Park - Free State Stadium
    Tries 47 and 48 Coca-Cola Park - Ellis Park Stadium (BBC ref uses Ellis Park)
  • Try 23 - remove Italy from venue
  • Try 42 - flip the scores
  • Trophy / Cup
    Try 60 - BBC ref doesn't mention that the Test was for the James Bevan trophy - add this?
    Tries 42 and 43 - BBC refs don't mention Prince William Cup - add this?

Refs - prose

  • all sources in prose are working and verify relevant info

Refs - table

  • all sources checked, tweaks needed are:
  • Try 26 (ref 26) is to first match (11 June at Estadio Raúl Conti) of 2006 Wales rugby union tour of Argentina in which Williams didn't try. Ref should be this one.
  • Try 26 - Score in table should be 27-45
  • Try 35 (ref 33) pubn date typo 29 Sept 2018 - 2007
  • Try 41 (ref 37) - add byline Sean Davies
  • Try 42 (ref 38) byline Sean Davies should be Gareth Roberts
  • Try 44 (ref 40) byline Suttleworth - Shuttleworth
  • Try 47 & 48 (ref 43) score 22-9 - 28-9
  • Try 52 {ref 46} pubn date 26 Feb 2000 - 2010
  • Try 53 (ref 47) - add byline Sean Davies
  • Try 60 (ref 53) - add byline Bruce Pope

Author links

  • Tom Fordyce (only one)

I reckon that's it now. Let me know if you need any clarified, JennyOz (talk) 12:43, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

JennyOz thanks, I've addressed all of these I think! Your diligent review is (and always are) very much appreciated. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:32, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Have checked all tweaks, all good. JennyOz (talk) 13:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very happy to support. Great job! JennyOz (talk) 13:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Courcelles (talk) 19:33, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
*"Williams has scored multiple tries in a single international on 14 occasions" Needs the word "match" or "fixture" or something here.
  • Added match. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • You don't have to list them, but at least specify how many Tier 1 teams there are. Including whether or not Wales itself is such.
    Added the total number, but didn't talk about Wales being one, the link should be enough and I couldn't see any elegant way of juxtaposing that into the prose. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Finally, his six tries against Argentina left him level with France's Serge Blanco and Émile Ntamack for the most by a European player.[7]" Do we need the word "Finally" here?
    No, expunged. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Table looks fine, so does the sourcing.
    Cool. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's all from me. Courcelles (talk) 16:52, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Courcelles, I've addressed and/or responded to your comments inline above. Don't hesitate to get back to me with anything else. Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 18:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: I tried something revert if you want. Courcelles (talk) 19:23, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting --PresN 21:46, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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