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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 15:34, 7 November 2009 [1].

List of international cricket centuries by Virender Sehwag[edit]

Nominator(s): Abeer.ag (talk), Hometech
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I am nominating this for featured list because it certainly meets the FLC criteria. Its been in FLC before but failed to pass because of lack of reviews. Abeer.ag (talk) 02:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments Prose is like a bunch of dot points strewn together, particular with the repeated "He/His" sentence starts. Also the 201 in Galle needs a special mention, as it was named the Wisden Performance of the year, and carrying his bat, which broke some record(s). Also, is it uncommon to have only 3 victories in 15 centuries? This may be a reflection of most of them being on pretty flat pitches, or India's bowling being toothless (usually both) resulting in a stack of draws. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:15, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • What should I say about the Galle innings?
As long as there are citations for that :P SGGH ping! 10:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
CEntury on debut? Only one century in the second innings, none in runchases. Why is this disparity not mentioned? It's a very famous part of Sehwag's record. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:18, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • He has 3 centuries in innings 3 or 4. Its not really that relevant mentioning victories I guess. And I do say "In 2001, he became the eleventh Indian player to score a century on Test debut, with 105 runs against South Africa"
Also, didn't he break a few records for hitting a lot of fours and sixes in some of these triple centuries?? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, doesn't he have the highest % of boundaries out of modern players? Or something along those lines. One series 5 years ago he scored 80% of runs from fours. Aaroncrick (talk) 05:49, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Its very hard to cite facts like that: [2] is the only link I could find, and it dosen't mention anything particularly notable.

Thanks For you comments. Abeer.ag (talk) 00:04, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments Support
    • Opening sentence is, well, so practical that it is flat.
      • It might be basic, but it introduces the topic so non-cricket readers are not immersed in cricket terminology from the start. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've changed it without adding any more terms. SGGH ping! 13:26, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • The lead has too many choppy sentences, and not enough flow.
    • The lead does have good information, however.
      • I know.. I tried to fix it earlier as well, and this is the best I could do.
    • Of the tables, why is there no column for which Test of Sehwag's career it was? i.e. 5th Test, 23rd Test etc. I would have thought this would be useful information, helping to show particular runs of form or drought, and how many consecutive centuries there are.
      • The dates for the Tests are mentioned
    • I think an article on his centuries should perhaps have a shade more information on the man's career debut date, the date of his first century in the lead, things like that.
      • I menton " In 2001, he became the eleventh Indian player to score a century on Test debut, with 105 runs against South Africa"
    • Also, please replace the external link with {{cricinfo|ref=india/content/player/35263.html|name=Virender Sehwag}} ***Done SGGHping! 10:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You for you comments. Abeer.ag (talk) 00:04, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted. Cheers. SGGH ping! 13:26, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - *You could probably say how he has scored 150+ in his last eight or so centuries (I think). You'll need to find a source though. Aaroncrick (talk) 19:57, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    • I do say that: "His last 11 centuries have been scores of 150 or greater, a record for the most consecutive hundreds of over 150."
  • "He has been dismissed three times between 90 and 100 runs, and has made five scores of 200 runs or more, the most by an Indian opener, of which a record three have come against Pakistan." Is the sentence a bit long? Aaroncrick (talk) 19:57, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • That part of the lead has gone through several edits, and that was found to be the best way to say that. Abeer.ag (talk) 02:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Tough one to review. There are no major faults that I can find, but I also notice the choppy nature of the lead. It's difficult to offer solid advice on this, but mixing up the beginnings of more sentences may help. Also, I wish the alt text for the graph had some description of the figures in the graph, since that would be of great benefit to those with screen readers. Giants2008 (17–14) 19:17, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the alt text for that should at least mention that the graph runs from 2001 through 2009, that there are peaks in early 2004 and early 2008 (and perhaps the value of those peaks), and that the moving average goes up and down around 50 for most of his career; that sort of thing. The current alt text leaves the visually impaired reader in the dark. Eubulides (talk) 05:14, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 15:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "scored in thirteen cricket grounds" scored "at" the grounds?
    • Changed
  • "of which eight", reverse it for my taste, but that is my opinion (i.e. eight of which...)
    • That does sound better
  • Can we find a link for "dismissal" for when you say "dismissed three times" (it's a bit cricket jargony)
    • Done
  • I would tend to agree with Giants on the slight feeling of disjoint - you mention dismissals then double centuries...
    • I know... but what else can I do?
  • "of which a record three" what kind of record?
    • Most double centuries against Pakistan; explained by note
  • "His first ODI century was ..." not sure you really need to repeat ODI century here.
    • Changed
  • "coming up off 60 balls" - not sure this is how I would write it, perhaps "coming from 60 deliveries"?
    • changed
  • "The number of the Test matches played in that series" - not really, it's the "The Test in which the century was scored against the total number of Tests in the series". No succinct, perhaps you could work that out a bit better than I could write it?
    • The current caption kind of works... as you said, the alternative is not very suucint.
  • I would make 201* sort above 201 as it's generally agreed that a NO finish is better than an out, right? Same with the 114*
    • I don't know how to do that! I just used standard wiki sorting.
      • SpacemanSpiff fixed it.
  • In the lead image you use ODI but in the image a way further down you revert to the full usage. I'd do it the other way round.
    • Done
  • Your notes are really all References except for [7] which is a note.
    • Changed
  • Is India national cricket team linked anywhere in this article?
    • Done

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC) Thank you for your comments Abeer.ag (talk) 23:23, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Comments "MA Chidambaram Stadium, Chennai, where Sehwag got his highest score, 319 versus South Africa." ... reached his highest score, 319 versus South Africa? Aaroncrick (talk) 19:53, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Added a comma. Thank you. Abeer.ag (talk) 23:23, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak> Support - Nice work Aaroncrick (talk) 09:30, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose still nothing happening on the discussion of some of the notable things about Sehwag's centuries YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 23:50, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abeer.ag added bit about scores of 150, however, I doubt there are refs for the other issues. Aaroncrick (talk) 07:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Added some data. Abeer.ag (talk) 14:58, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Like mentioned by Aaroncrick above, "He has been dismissed between 90....come against Pakistan." is too long and should be split. Also, ref 6 is really a note, so it should probably be split off from the references.
    • Changed
  • Double referencing - #1 and #2 don't say anything different, so either should suffice for the first paragraph. Likewise #8, #9. In both cases, the reference quality isn't questionable, so is there a reason for adding the extra reference?
    • 8 & 9 cite different things; #1 and 2 are the result of a discussion on a previous FLC, its so that not all references are from Cricinfo.
  • The three sentences from "His highest score of 130..." to "...coming from 60 deliveries" should be consolidated to two and the reference to New Zealand strengthened.
    • Changed.
  • This is more of a stylistic preference, but should "between 90 and 100" be replaced by "in the nineties"?
    • Done

-SpacemanSpiff 01:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You for your comments. Abeer.ag (talk) 21:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    • I'm sorry, I didn't notice the other comment. How do I do that? Or should I just remove it? Abeer.ag (talk) 23:57, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Has YellowMonkey been asked to revisit? Dabomb87 (talk) 23:41, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Can you add the info that the 254 v Pak in Jan 2006 was the largest score at 100+ SR? Also the fact that it was in a 400-run partnership and went with 4-5 of breaking hte WR by Roy and Mankad in the 1950s YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:21, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Added the second part;not sure about what you mean by the first part; his 319 also had a SR>100. Abeer.ag (talk) 05:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The 254 was off about 250 balls or something and was the record until the 319 broke it YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Added a bit about the 319 being the largest. Abeer.ag (talk) 00:31, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
YellowMonkey himself added the other stuff as well. Abeer.ag (talk) 00:44, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - concerns have been addressed. -SpacemanSpiff 01:07, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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