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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of highest points reached in the Tour de France[edit]

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Nominator(s): BaldBoris 00:08, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I created this list after putting together Souvenir Henri Desgrange as a future FLC. I needed to confirm what the highest point of each Tour when I couldn't find one single source. The red stage links will eventually be sorted, hopefully soon. BaldBoris 00:08, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've just now thought it might be better for it to be instead named List of highest points reached by the Tour de France. BaldBoris 01:04, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:55, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Single-laned should have a hyphen
  • "This remains the highest point of elevation the Tour de France has seen" - the Tour does not have eyes so it can't see, suggest "This remains the highest point of elevation reached by the Tour de France"
  • Also suggest putting "As of 2019" at the start of that sentence and not in brackets
  • Lose the "as of 2019" from the last sentence, as I think the one before makes it clear
  • Move notes a and b to the headers of the relevant columns
  • I think you can combine the years when the Tour was lost to World Wars into one row each
    They turn into individual rows once you start sorting. Is that a reason why you believe it should be done? BaldBoris 12:34, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I think you could just have one line with 1915-1918 in the first column. There's no need for four separate rows which would always sort together anyway -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:04, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I do agree yes. I've introduced {{n/a}} for the styling as well as for the "N/A" cells. BaldBoris 22:39, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    You need to add sort templates to ensure those rows sort correctly - currently if you sort on another column and then try to re-sort on year they drop to the bottom..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:03, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    That's because of class="sortbottom", otherwise they stay at the top when you sort. Not sure what's better. BaldBoris 11:26, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I made a small edit so that they sort correctly -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    It made no difference because the column uses data-sort-type="number". Also, data-sort-vale="" should be used over {{sort}}. They still annoyingly stay at the top when sorting. It seems like this issue has never truly been solved. Looking at the association football season FLs, a number of different methods have been used, with none really working. BaldBoris 14:37, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    They sort correctly for me? If I sort on any other column, they jump to the top (which is what I would expect as they are essentially null values) but then when I re-sort on the first column they appear in the correct place. Are you experiencing something different? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:14, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I just they should always be at the bottom (out of the way) once sorting. I'm fine with it as is. BaldBoris 15:46, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The "Category" column refers to the system used for the mountains classification in the Tour de France to determined iuia climb's difficulty" - "determined" should be "determine" and "iuia" is not an English word, but as I have no idea what it is meant to mean I have no idea what should replace it - maybe "each"?
  • "Before the 1976 Tour de France, the Galibier was stated by the media the highest climb of route" => "Before the 1976 Tour de France, the Galibier was stated by the media to be the highest climb of the route"
  • "The Col du Galibier was planned to be planned to be the highest poitn" - spelling error
  • Think that's it from me..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:41, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    All done apart from one. Thanks for that Chris, great job. BaldBoris 12:34, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • One other thing I only just spotted - ref 64 does not have the title translated into English.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Harrias talk

Really interesting work, thanks for creating this.

  • "It was founded by French sports journalist and former professional road racing cyclist Henri Desgrange.." To avoid a false title, add "the" before "French".
  • "The 1907 Tour took the race higher up to 1,326 m.." I think you need a comma after "higher".
  • "The race first reached high altitude on the.." Add a note, either parenthetical or footnote, explaining what "high altitude" means, in addition to the wikilink.
  • "..which summited 2,556 m (8,386 ft) higher.." Saying it was "2,556 m higher" makes it sound like it was at 2,115 m + 2,556 m (4,671 m). I would remove the word completely.
  • Ref #12 needs "pp" instead of "p".
  • Ref #36 has "Gallicae" rather than "Gallica".
  • Image is appropriately tagged and licensed, with a suitable caption.
  • The image requires alt text.

Overall, a really nicely presented and interesting list, well done. Harrias talk 18:42, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All sorted, cheers Harrias. BaldBoris 22:49, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, all looks good to me now. Harrias talk 07:28, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just a note: I am taking part in the WikiCup, and will be claiming points for this review. Harrias talk 07:28, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "The Col du Galibier was planned to be planned to be the highest point" think you have one too many instances of 'planned to be' here

That's all I can find, great list. NapHit (talk) 15:43, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, thanks for taking a look NapHit. BaldBoris 15:51, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, happy to support now. Great list! NapHit (talk) 17:38, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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