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List of awards and nominations received by James Cameron[edit]

List of awards and nominations received by James Cameron (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Leo Mercury (talk) 14:34, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I made sure it meets all of the FL criteria. Leo Mercury (talk) 14:34, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image review – Pass[edit]

The only image File:JamesCameronStarDec09.jpg is appropriated licenced. Pass for Image review. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:59, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from RunningTiger123[edit]

Resolved comments from RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:25, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
* "breaking the record for being the most awarded individual in this category" – citation needed
  • "It received a record-tie of fourteen nominations" → "It received a record-tying fourteen nominations"
    • Done.
  • "his first feature film in eleven years" – shouldn't it be twelve years (2009−1997)?
    • Done.
  • The categories "The President's Memorial Award" and "The Visionary Award" should sort by "President's Memorial Award" and "Visionary Award", respectively.
    • Done.
  • Move "tied with..." footnotes to the Result column
    • Done.
  • There are several awards on this list that do not specify Cameron as a nominee. The most obvious one is the Golden Globe Award for Best Motion Picture – Drama; as far as I know, the Golden Globes for Best Motion Picture and Best Television Series are presented to the film/show as a whole and do not specify individual producers for their winners/nominees. I would suggest checking his IMDb awards page; if the award isn't listed there, double-check its source to see if it specifies him as a nominee or was simply presented to the film.

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:43, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All changes look good, and I'm happy to support now. RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:25, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TRM[edit]

In addition to the good comments above, here are some of my thoughts:

  • I avoid the use of single-sentence paragraphs, so would advise you do the same here.
    • Done.
  • "films like" films including.
    • Done.
  • You have three inline citations, are they required in the lead?
    • I think so. I tried to put them where it was necessary.
  • "the epic romance blockbuster" sea of blue.
    • Edited.
  • $1 billion - non-breaking space between 1 and billion.
    • Done.
  • "January 25, 2010 became" comma after 2010.
    • Done.
  • "Cameron being nominated for Best Picture, Best Director and Best Film Editing" well weren't those the ones he won?
    • Edited.
  • Ref 22 needs an en-dash, not a spaced hyphen.

That's all I have for now. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from ChrisTheDude[edit]

  • "holding the title for being one of the most expensive films ever made" - can you really "hold the title" of being one of the most (rather than the most)?
    • Done.
  • "It received a record-tie of fourteen nominations" => "It received a record-tying fourteen nominations"
  • That's all I got other than what's already been mentioned above -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:41, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:47, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – Pass[edit]

  • Version reviewed — 1
Formatting
  • Ref#1 – Add 2010 as the original publishing date
  • Ref#3 – url access level = limited
  • Ref#14 – translate the title
  • Ref#19 – translate the title
  • Ref#22 – Replace the dash '-' with an en dash '–'
  • Ref#32 – Shouldn't Alle JUPITER AWARD-Gewinner 1978-2014 be inside quotes?
  • Ref#47 to Ref#54 – "Los Angeles Times" should be "The Los Angeles Times", check for other instances of the same.
    • Quick note on this one: The newspaper calls itself the Los Angeles Times, not The Los Angeles Times (see the header at latimes.com). Our article on the newspaper also calls it the Los Angeles Times. RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:37, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reliability
  • Overall, no issues.
Verifiability
  • Ref#7 – Rather than providing the instruction "(Click on "to view past nominees and winners click here", then click on "1998")", why not just add the direct url?

– Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:21, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks, Kavyansh.Singh, I've done everything except the last part; IMDb is not considered to be a reliable source. --Leo Mercury (talk) 08:45, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Leo Mercury – Regarding Ref#7, I just followed the instructions "(Click on "to view past nominees and winners click here", then click on "1998")" and reached that IMDb page. I don't quite get that... You are indirectly asking the reader to go to the IMDb page by following the instructions, but then call it an unreliable source. Doesn't that make the initial "americancinemaeditors.org" source useless? It would be better to replace that citation with another one then. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:02, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • Oh right, I forgot about that IMDb redirect. Luckily, I've found a more reliable source. --Leo Mercury (talk) 10:44, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pamzeis[edit]

  • epic romance — possibly link this to romantic epic?
  • one of the most expensive films ever made — suggest linking this to list of most expensive films
  • Probably just my personal preference but I think this flows better: It was released to critical acclaim and commercial success and holds the title for being the first picture to cross $1 billion at the box office. → Released to critical acclaim and commercial success, it became the first picture to gross $1 billion at the box office.
  • the 1998 Academy Awards/the 1998 British Academy Film Awards — WP:SEAOFBLUE?
  • "statuettes" seems a bit MOS:JARGONy as somebody unfamiliar with the Oscars would probably not know that the awards are statuettes
  • In 2009, Cameron released his first feature film in twelve years, Avatar. → In 2009, Avatar, Cameron's first feature film in twelve years, was released. (Technically, Cameron didn't release it.)
  • The film broke several box office records and on January 25, 2010, became the highest-grossing movie in history. → It broke several box office records and on January 25, 2010, became the highest-grossing film in history. (To reduce repetition of "film", potential WP:EGG and mention of "movie" (which I believe is discouraged).)
  • Nitpick-y but: nominations, with Cameron being the recipient of three of them → nominations, Cameron the recipient of three of them (more concise)

Ping me when these have been resolved and I'll (probably) be happy to support! Pamzeis (talk) 07:31, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support — best of luck with this list! Pamzeis (talk) 13:01, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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