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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 22:54, 20 January 2010 [1].

List of Sri Lankan monarchs[edit]

Nominator(s): Blackknight12 (talk) 06:45, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured list because I have worked on this list for hundreds of hours and it is very hard to find information on the monarchs of Sri Lanka all in one place. It has come a long way and in my opinion has reached the standard of List of French monarchs which is the only other featured list on monarchs. Blackknight12 (talk) 06:45, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Great work Blackknight12, what is missing is the list of Kings belonging to Jaffna Kingdom. Any reasons Taprobanus (talk)

Oppose Good work Blackknight12, but as Taprobanus says , where is the list of Kings belonging to Jaffna Kingdom. Please explain what motive behind to not to include or deleted the list of Kings belonging to Jaffna Kingdom. --Jai Kumara Yesappa (talk) 23:42, 25 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Taprobanus. Yes the list of Kings belonging to Jaffna Kingdom is missing but so is the list of kings belonging to Ruhuna, Maya Rata and Dhakkinadesa (and maybe more). The monarchs belonging to these monarchies only ruled a small region of the island of Sri Lanka and were not a dominant force. In the absence of these monarchies I have created a separate article for them: List of Jaffna monarchs, List of Ruhuna monarchs, and List of Maya Rata monarchs. However the first monarch of Jaffna did rule the island with most of the power but later established the Jaffna kingdom in the north which I assume you already know.--Blackknight12 (talk) 02:04, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The following books on Sri Lankan history definitely mention the Kingdom as an important part of the country's history.
de Silva, K. M. (2005). A History of Sri Lanka. Colombo: Vijitha Yapa. p. 782. ISBN 9-55-809592-3.
Peebles, Patrick (2006). The History of Sri Lanka. USA: Greenwood Press. p. 248. ISBN 0-313-33205-3. Thanks Taprobanus (talk) 04:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I was reading Jaffna kingdom, which I believe you wrote, and it seems to me that I may have missed something. It says "for a brief period, in the early to mid-fourteenth century, it was an ascendant power in the island of Sri Lanka when all regional kingdoms accepted subordination. However, the kingdom was eventually overpowered by the rival Kotte Kingdom, around 1450." I haven't heard of this anywhere else but if you can get me some sources on it I could probably include the Jaffna kingdom somewhere. Thanks--Blackknight12 (talk) 08:03, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

I think that the list looks very good and is very well written but I have a couple concerns that should be addressed before I support.
  • There is 1 disambiguous link
  • The images need alt text
  • There are several external links that are locking structure such as access date and publisher.

Once these are corrected I will support. --Kumioko (talk) 20:13, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Oppose: Sorry mate, but this has too many problems.

  • The actual list is unreferenced. There are a few inline citations for some facts regarding the confusion of dates, but the rest of the article has none.
  • The "Relationship with Predecessor" column has other information as well in some cases.
  • Invaders from India have managed to seize the throne several times. Only Elara and Magha are mentioned, and a reader has no way of knowing who the others were unless they already know the history very well. In short, it's not really possible to recognize who are invaders and who are local rulers.
  • What happened to the lineage of Sri Lankan kings during those invasions? Where were they and what were they doing when foreigners were in control of their country? Did they manage to keep at least some part under their control?
  • "the list only includes monarchs who had possession of most of the island and the power at any one time". Then why are local rulers from the time of Rajaraja I's invasion to Vijayabahu I mentioned? The Chola kings were, in effect, rulers of the country during this period and the local chieftains has little power even within Ruhuna. So if they are mentioned, the rest of the rulers of Ruhuna (such as Kavan Tissa) and Jaffna should be mentioned as well.
  • "the Dipawamsa and Mahawamsa are the primary sources for ancient South Asian chronology". How come? Both are Sri Lankan chronicles and talk about Sri Lankan history. None of them significantly deal with South Asian history. Please clarify this.
  • Why are British monarchs mentioned from 1948 to 72? After the country gained independence in 1948, why did it continue to regard the British monarch as its own? Also, they did not have any control or power over the country itself, which, as you have mentioned, are the requirements for inclusion in this list.
  • The king resided in Colombo after the Kandyan Kingdom ended (mentioned in infobox)? How is this possible when the British monarch became the ruler?

≈ Chamal talk ¤ 01:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:00, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Fails most of the FLC. Afro (Not a Terrible Joke) - Afkatk 10:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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