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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 14:29, 5 July 2009 [1].

List of Gold Glove Award winners at shortstop[edit]

Nominator(s): KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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So I've grown tired of "I am nominating this for featured list because...". Same stuff, different day. I hope we all enjoy reading about the defensive exploits of one of the most defensive positions in all of baseball. Cheers. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note: this is your fourth running FLC. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I know. I didn't know if there was an issue with that. I try to keep on top of them so there are no outstanding issues for an extended period of time. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 17:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Your FLCs are usually low-maintenance, and you're an experienced FLC editor, so I'm not worried. Just making sure you knew. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I don't plan on having more than this open, because the outfielders are coming soon and that one takes FOREVER... KV5 (Talk • Phils) 17:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
  • "Ozzie Smith has won the most Gold Glove Awards at shortstop; "the Wizard of Oz" took home 13 awards in his 19 seasons with the St. Louis Cardinals" It's not clear that Ozzie Smith is synonymous with "the Wizard of Oz".
  • The DYK reviewers didn't seem to have a problem with it; it's pretty obvious to me (maybe because I wrote it) that the entire sentence refers to one person. What would you suggest? KV5 (Talk • Phils) 00:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • A slightly longer, but more clear sentence (IMO): "Ozzie Smith, known as "the Wizard of Oz", has won the most Gold Glove Awards at shortstop; he took home 13 awards in his 19 seasons with the St. Louis Cardinals." Dabomb87 (talk) 00:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Dave Concepción won five awards,[10] and four-time winners at shortstop include Tony Fernández and Alan Trammell." The connection between five- and four-time winners isn't close enough to warrant a comma, maybe a semicolon?
  • I didn't think five words was enough to warrant the usage of a semicolon, plus I tend to overuse them as is, so I was trying to keep the number down.
  • OK, well, I don't need an excuse to use another semicolon. Done. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Hall of Famers to win Gold Glove Awards" "to win"-->to have won or who have won
  • "and the American League leader is Belanger (552 in 1974)"-->while Belanger (552 in 1974) leads in the American League Dabomb87 (talk) 15:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Incorrect usage of "while", isn't it? They didn't happen concurrently. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 00:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Caught me! Use "and" if you wish. The main problem was the phrasing, which didn't read quite right. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support

I also ran this article through AWB and found a couple of minor things that I fixed. Mostly related to references.--Kumioko (talk) 04:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What AWB did was break references that were intentionally placed where it considered to be "misplaced". Please don't run AWB on the other articles; they are in a different order intentionally. If you need to know why, I can tell you. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 12:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize if it did not function as intended but its too late I already ran it through all the articles that appeared to need a change. With that said, there is no way for AWB to know if the references where placed due to personal preference and it is likely that someone else will happen by and make the same change eventually so its good to find that out now. Aside from the personal prefence placement of the references the MOS also states that there should not be a space between punctuation and references so thats why I removed the speces before the references. --Kumioko (talk) 13:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
But the spaces that you removed were not with punctuation. I'm well aware of the MOS and its reference requirements; the spaces that were removed were all in tables. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 13:32, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Um yes your right it was in the table but only in the references column of the table. I am going to drop a line on the AWB site to have them modify the logic so it does not remove the space after a pipe and well see what they say about it. I still think that space should be removed in accordance with the the MOS. --Kumioko (talk) 13:57, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Since it makes no difference in the way it displays, WP:MOS#Internal consistency should apply here. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 14:07, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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