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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 08:16, 25 May 2008 [1].

List of German World War II jet aces[edit]

The list is complete and feel it could meet the featured list criteria. Please have a look at let me know what you think. MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
  • Is there a reason that "Jet" is capitalised?  Done
  • Portraits are good, but need to use upright rather than have their size forced, per the advice at WP:MOS. Done
  • "The jet aircraft entered World War II" - The jet? Why not just "Jet aircraft..."? And unless they were first used and downed the Mosquito on the same day, this needs rephrasing. Done
  • Expand RAF, link it, then add (RAF) to it on its first use.  Done
  • What does "W.Nr. 130 017." mean?  Done
  • Perhaps a rephrase but to some it may appear that the Luftwaffe had three jet aircraft in total. Presumably they had squadrons of these?  Done reworded
  • Cite your definition of ace. Done it was cited
  • "Jet Victories" in the table probably just needs to read "Jet victories", or, since this is about jet aces, just "Victories".  Done
  • "Total Wartime Victories" could just be "Total wartime victories".  Done
  • I would force column widths because right now, the notes in Arnold's row are killing the whole of the rest of the table for me.
  • 20+ needs explicit explanation. Done
  • Many red links... Done

That's a start. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:41, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Woody (talk · contribs)
  • I think it looks good at the moment. Couple of comments before supporting:
  • Is there a way of highlighting those who died in action? Done I highlighted those killed in action and killed in flying accidenet MisterBee1966 (talk) 22:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could we add a section header before the table, perhaps named German jet aces. Done MisterBee1966 (talk) 22:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Currently there are 20% red links for the pilots. Per the WIAFL 1 (a) 1 (brings together a group of existing articles related by well-defined entry criteria;) I think it needs to be at least 90% (that is an arbitrary personal preference I know). I just think there should be a few more links.  Done created stubs MisterBee1966 (talk) 22:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • So, great list, just a couple of issues. Thanks. Woody (talk) 18:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • You are going to have to put fair-use rationales on the image pages that aren't freely licensed. Currently they are not licensed for use on this article. Until that is sorted I have to Oppose. Woody (talk) 21:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Done MisterBee1966 (talk) 22:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, not done in my eyes. Not all of the information that is needed is there, you simply have a link to the article. You need to explain why it is fair-use in this list, which will be hard to explain. I think the Template:Non-free use rationale could be helpful here. Woody (talk) 08:31, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Done according to spec. Thanks for the help MisterBee1966 (talk) 10:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support now. I centre aligned the numerical columns as it looks better and is the standard thing to do. I tried to fix the column widths, but at lower resolutions it destroys the table with the images overlapping. Anyway, I support now. Good work. Woody (talk) 10:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Questions Just a couple of question before I can support:

  1. Which references actually reference each ace? Can a reference for each ace be included in the notes column? My main source is Morgan, Hugh & Weal, John (1998). German Jet Aces of World War 2. London: Orsprey Publishing Limited. ISBN 1-85532-634-5. You should see this sourced referenced multiple times. I have this source referenced in the lead section but if you deem it necessary I can add it here too. MisterBee1966 (talk) 22:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Is there a navbox for the bottom of the page?
    No not yet but I like Woody's idea about creating a Nav box for the pilots MisterBee1966 (talk) 22:37, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Are there any similar pages you can link to in a See also section?
     Done added List of World War II aces from Germany in a "See also" section. MisterBee1966 (talk) 22:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Why is this list any different to List of World War II aces from Germany, and why does that one have way more entries than this? -- Matthewedwards (talk · contribs · count · email) 21:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • There won't be because they didn't develop operational jet aircraft until 1945, and only then used them for defence against the V1 rockets and a few ground attacks. As such, the Germans were pretty unique in having jet aces in WWII. A navbox for all the air aces articles could be useful though. Woody (talk) 22:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I added a section "See also" with List of World War II aces from Germany. To my knowledge the Germans were the only ones to produce jet aces in WW2. MisterBee1966 (talk) 22:34, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support I think this now meets all the criteria. Well done. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs · count · email) 06:16, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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