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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 16 February 2022 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of 24 Hours of Le Mans winners[edit]

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Nominator(s): MWright96 (talk) 14:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is the list is about all those drivers who have won the 24 Hours of Le Mans sports car race overall. Such famous names in the world of motor racing to have won the race include Tom Kristensen, Jacky Ickx, Derek Bell, Emanuele Pirro, Frank Biela, Graham Hill, Alexander Wurz, José Froilán González, A. J. Foyt, Henri Pescarolo and more recently Fernando Alonso. Should the list pass, it will be the first featured list related specially to sports car racing on Wikipedia. I look forward to all comments MWright96 (talk) 14:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • "close by the city" => "close to the city"
  • "The race along with the Indianapolis 500 and the Monaco Grand Prix forms part of the Triple Crown of Motorsport" => "The race forms part of the Triple Crown of Motorsport along with the Indianapolis 500 and the Monaco Grand Prix" seems more natural to me
  • "winning driver's feet and hands and signature" => "winning driver's feet, hands and signature"
  • "placement in the pavement at Le Mans' Saint Nicholas district" => "placement in the pavement in Le Mans' Saint Nicholas district"
  • "There have been four countries who have" => "There have been four countries which have"
  • "Porsche hold the record [.....] 19 since its" - plural/singular disagreement
  • "Joest Racing have achieved more wins than every entered racing team on 13 occasions" - I don't understand this. Is it meant to be "Joest Racing have achieved more wins than any other racing team, having won on 13 occasions"?
  • "three victorious participants per car became the norm" - just "three participants per car became the norm", surely?
  • "Overall and no lower class winners are included" - apologies, but I don't understand what this means, can you reword/elaborate?
  • Image captions are all complete sentences so need full stops
  • Think that's it from me :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:36, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:36, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support from TRM[edit]

  • Is there a ref for the French-language title of the race?
  • "industrialist Emile Coquile to " comma after Coquile.
  • "a cast ... are cast" repetitive.
  • "won the 1996 race.[10] " overlinked.
  • "the 1923 edition" ditto.
  • Consider converting the distance to miles for those who don't "get" the metric system.
  • And I would put (km) explicitly in the header as well as in the hover-over {{abbr}} text.
  • As distance is in the table, is it worth noting shortest and longest race distances in the lead? I personally find it interesting that the average race winning distance has gone up by a factor of around 2.5 since the 1920s.

That's it. It's a good piece of work. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 12:17, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, nice work. Happy to support. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:31, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support by Gerald Waldo Luis[edit]

Excellent article; as a non-racing enthusiast it's easy to understand I love the design! Just some comments, after that I'll sp. GeraldWL 10:19, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from GeraldWL 06:54, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
* "(French: 24 heures du Mans)"-- this shouldn't be bolded as 24 heures du Mans doesn't redirect here. Also, should the "H" be capitalized? Because in the 24 Hours of Le Mans article it is.
  • "It was first staged"-- "staged" meas "presented or performed on a stage" and I don't think 24LM is in a stage it's in a circuit. Suggest changing it to "held"
  • "at the former grocery store owner Bernard Warain's initiative"-- suddenly having some grocery store owner is a bit weird, and I don't think Warrain being a grocery store owner is vital in the history of 24LM. Suggest "at the the initiative of a man named Bernard Warain"
  • "at the 1924 race" --> "in 1924" for consistency.
  • Suggest using Template:N/a for the N/A cells
    • Have instead added No series to replace the N/A cells MWright96 (talk) 13:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suggest using Template:Abbr or Template:Abbrlink for the Series abbreviations
    • Done and also used abbrlink template for class and season abbreviations MWright96 (talk) 13:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The table nevertheless looks great, but I suggest merging similar cells (e.g. in By Manufacturer, Matra-Simca and Peugeot have the same wins of 3, this can be merged). But over time I've learned that this is also personal preference, so if you prefer the status quo it's totally okay :)
  • The image captions should not have full stops as they're not full sentences
  • Ref 5 is dead, I found. I changed the url-status. A bot archived the remaining unarchived links but is unable to reformat dead links, suggest you check them all.
    • IAbot does not say there are any dead links whether they are temporary or permanent MWright96 (talk) 13:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Gerald Waldo Luis: Have made changes to the list and have replied where appropriate MWright96 (talk) 13:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by RunningTiger123[edit]

  • Archive link for source 3 appears to be incorrect (links to Meta-Wiki?)
  • "is second with six victories and Derek Bell" → "is second with six victories, and Derek Bell"
  • "followed by French racers with 29 and German drivers with 19" → "followed by France with 29 and Germany with 19" (keep subjects consistent with United Kingdom)
  • Series abbreviations key should not rely solely on mouseover text – add the full names in a column next to the abbreviations for mobile viewers (similar to tyre manufacturers)
  • For similar reasons, a class key would be useful for mobile viewers
  • Consider writing out "laps", "km", and "mi" instead of "L", "K", and "M" in header (for same reason again)

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:35, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Looks great! RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 15:24, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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