Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Hawthorn Memorial Trophy/archive1

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Hawthorn Memorial Trophy[edit]

Featured list candidates/Hawthorn Memorial Trophy/archive1

Nominator(s): MWright96 (talk) 14:25, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here is another Formula One Award being put up for nomination by yours truly, the Hawthorn Memorial Trophy. The award is presented to the most successful British or Commonwealth driver over the course of Formula One season and has been won by many of the sport's famous names. I believe this list meets the criteria to be at a featured level and look forward to all comments and concerns. MWright96 (talk) 14:25, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Great work! ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 09:44, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"It was launched on 1 May 1959 by the Royal Automobile Club (RAC) as an appeal" - I don't really follow what this means. How was the award an appeal?
"The winner was given the trophy at an annual ceremony" - bit vague. I would say either "The winner was initially given the trophy at an annual ceremony" or "The winner was given the trophy at an annual ceremony until 19XX" if the exact date is known
"Of the 19 recipients, all but six have gone on to win the World Championship on 24 occasions" - as worded, this says that 13 recipients have each won the World Championship 24 times. Suggest rewording to "Of the 19 recipients, all but six have gone on to win the World Championship, with a total of 24 wins between them"
One of the Mansell images is obviously cropped from another - I would suggest not having them right next to each other to mix things up a bit
Think that's it from me. Nice work overall! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:30, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: All points have been addressed. MWright96 (talk) 19:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:20, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Harrias[edit]

"..for Mike Hawthorn, the racing driver who.." I think replacing "the" with "a" would make more sense here.
"..by the Goldsmiths Company freeman K. Lessons.." I'm not sure what this means?
"..who has the most wins of any other driver with ten." Remove "other".
I'd love to see the table expanded to have a "position" column, noting what position the driver finished in the world championship. It would give more context to the award, and to "records" such as Jenson's ninth.

Overall, a great listicle. Harrias ^talk 08:59, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrias: Have taken action on all four of the above points. MWright96 (talk) 11:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Nice work as usual. Harrias ^talk 11:24, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- NB: I will claim WikiCup points for this review. Harrias ^talk 14:19, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TRM[edit]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:49, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*I'm not sure what "national memorial" means when it's international (Commonwealth nations)?

Might be worth expanding that Hawthorn had actually retired immediately after his championship win as a result of the death of his teammate?
"The trophy, created by.... " this sentence has too many run-on clauses...
"the 1959 championship" etc, I'm not keen on these easter egg year links, I usually advocate for including "championship", "edition" etc to be in the link to ensure our readers know they're not being linked to just the year article.
- Not addressed? The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:57, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - The F1 template does not include the ability to add extra text following the year. MWright96 (talk) 11:00, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Probably a good reason not to use it then... The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 11:23, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - Taken up suggestion. MWright96 (talk) 12:14, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
" 50 times, followed by Australians with seven victories, New Zealanders with three wins and one Canadian winner. Of the 19 recipients, all but six h..." MOSNUM, comparable items should be consistently all words or all numbers.
Worth noting that Hamilton has won the last eight in a row?
Not convinced you need the asterisk as you have the position each driver finished in the championship explicitly mentioned.
Pop up text over Pos. needs an apostrophe for Drivers'.
Some of your references are subscription-only and not marked as such, e.g. ref 2.
Category:Formula One-related lists could be used instead of Category:Formula One.

That's all I have, nice list, I'm claiming WikiCup points for the review etc. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 08:29, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Have made changes in line with the suggestions raised above. MWright96 (talk) 10:52, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support my concerns addressed. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 13:49, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – There are no obvious dead links according to the link-checker tool, and the reliability and formatting appear to be okay. The source review has been passed. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:24, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:19, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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