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The list was withdrawn by Crisco 1492 02:33, 3 June 2015 [1].

Anurag Kashyap filmography[edit]

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Nominator(s): —Yashthepunisher (talk) 2:16, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

This is the filmography list of one of the most influential directors of indian cinema, Anurag Kashyap. I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the FL standards. --Yashthepunisher (talk) 2:18, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Comments from Skr15081997

This looks pretty good as of now but a lot of work still needs to be done

  • Titles with "The" need to be sorted according to the words after it.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 5:40, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Notes column doesn't need sorting.
Can't understand.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 5:40, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Newspaper and magazine titles need to be italicized.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 5:22, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

These are some issues I found in 5 mins. More on this later. --Skr15081997 (talk) 14:47, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Make it sure that YouTube videos aren't copyright violations.--Skr15081997 (talk) 14:51, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think they are free to use as this source.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 5:40, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • "The Times Of India" and "TThe Times of India" need correction.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 3:10, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • A better image can be used.
The image is good.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 3:10, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I think Bollywood Life can be replaced with a better source.
Replaced.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 6:03, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

--Skr15081997 (talk) 15:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Pavanjandhyala
  • "censor boards". Wikilink it and provide its official term.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 8:59, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
  • In 2013, he made a short film on Eve teasing entitled That Day After Everyday, which was released online — here, please replace "entitled" with "titled". The usage of entitled is debatable in such issues.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 8:59, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Kashyap subsequent production ventures were Shaitan and Michael Winterbottom's British drama Trishna (2011). — write something about Shaitan too.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 9:01, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
  • He further co-produced a string of commercially unsuccessful films including the comedy drama Aiyyaa (2012), Chittagong (2012), Luv Shuv Tey Chicken Khurana (2012) and Shorts (2013) — Can you please rephrase it as He further co-produced Aiyyaa (2012), Chittagong (2012), Luv Shuv Tey Chicken Khurana (2012) and Shorts (2013); all of them being commercial failures.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 9:01, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 5:22, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Please mention the publishing channels of the videos from YouTube in the references.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 11:50, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wikilink sources in the references. Of course not everyone, but the first citation featuring such source. For example, reference number 1 for TOI, 4 for Rediff, 14 for YouTube etc.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 9:01, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Make sure there are no dead urls. If there are, replace them with an archived url from the past.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 11:35, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • In reference number 109, the title should have been 'Hunterrr' review: It's promising but ultimately disappointing but is just Hunterrr movie review. Any explanation regarding this?
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 5:22, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Ping me once after you resolve these. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 05:32, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now, this candidate has my Support. All the best! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 12:22, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.:) --Yashthepunisher (talk) 2:14, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Comments from Bollyjeff

The very first source, used for Kabhie Kabhie, does not say that he was the screen writer, as claimed in the table. In addition, it does say that he was the writer-producer for Yudh, which does not match what you have later on in the table (director for Yudh) or the other source for that. If even the first source is not correct, I cannot continue.

Replaced it with another source which cites that "he wrote Kabhie Kabhie, a serial for the Indian television".--Yashthepunisher (talk) 4:25, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
How do you explain that ToI was wrong on both shows? Daily Mail is often considered unreliable. The article for Yudh shows Ribhu Dasgupta as the director, and Kashyap as creator, so I think 'director' is misleading here. BollyJeff | talk 17:09, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yudh article clearly mentions him as the creative director and Ribhu as the director. Many sources have called him the creative director including the one in the table. We are nobody to call Daily Mail a unreliable source. Please suggest me the corrections that I should do.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 5:28, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
I would not use Daily Mail in an FA level article. It has been questioned and reject over and over; see here. Look at the definition of Creative director and see if you still think the director column in the table should say Yes for Yudh. BollyJeff | talk 18:00, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
the credits of yudh mentions him only as the creative director and not as the producer-director. Yashthepunisher (talk) 7:17, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Comments from Krimuk90
  • Why is the 'c' in Hindi cinema in caps?
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:40, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kabhi Kabhi needs to be in italics.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:40, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kabhi Kabhi needs to be accompanied by it's year of release.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:40, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • " Return of Hanuman, an animated film was his final release of the year. ". As a director or producer or writer? Unclear.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:40, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • " came up with Dev.D" Not encyclopedic.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:46, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In 2009, Kashyap came up with Dev.D, a modern-day take on Sarat Chandra Chattopadhyay's Bengali novel Devdas; along with Gulaal" The usage of the semicolon is improper.
  • "His first release of 2010 was Mumbai Cutting, an anthology film consisting of eleven stories by eleven directors" Was he one of the directors?
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 1:16, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • "It met with positive response and landed him the Filmfare Award for Best Dialogue" You mention two films and yet use the singular "it" to describe them.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 1:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Why is the 'e' in eve teasing in caps?
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:52, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • " Followed by Bombay Talkies (2013), an anthology film made for celebrating the centenary year of Indian Cinema" You start the sentence with "followed" with no link to the previous sentence.
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 1:19, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • "His next release Ugly (2014), was put on a hold after Kashyap declined the anti smoking sign in the film,[22] but was released in 2014 with the sign" To someone who doesn't understand the working of the Indian censor board, this statement will make no sense.
Rephrased.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 1:07, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • When did he launch his production company?
  • "He then went on to produce The Last Act, India's first collaborative feature film chosen from 12 directors to make 10 minute short films. Each film being a part of a larger story written by Kashyap". Similar to a previous problem; an erroneous use of the full-stop.
  • " his company co-produced". So Kashyap wasn't credited? Unclear.
Rephrased.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 1:24, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • " Other was the biographical drama Shahid" Again, the full-stop is wrongly used.
  • "The very year, his another production company Phantom Films,.." I think you mean that very year, and when did he find another production company? No prior information on that one.
Rephrased.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 1:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • How is Ranaut's best actress award important in Kashyap's filmography?
Removed.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:58, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • " Following year, " > "The following year..."
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 1:57, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Why is the d in documentary in caps?
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:52, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the notes column in the table, the premiere information on his films is redundant.
Removed premiere info from Katiyabaaz. The rest are Cannes and Toronto, which I think are reputed film festivals.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 2:38, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I know, but those aren't what the "notes" section is meant for. We can include that in his biography, but in his filmography listing that's too much information.--Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:59, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Removed.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 5:52, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Please use the correct dash (—) in the table.
  • Why is "Directed by Danis Tanovic" important in the notes section? You don't mention the directors for his other acting or production ventures?
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:53, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The notes column should not be sortable.
  • The Sify ref is incorrectly formatted.
It does not mentions the name of the author, others are mentioned. cannot understand what is "incorrect" here?--Yashthepunisher (talk) 3:07, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Sifi is a website, so it should be referenced using the "cite web" template, and the "publisher" field, not the "work" field should be used.--Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:59, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 6:05, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • The Variety, Screen Daily, Mint, First Post refs are incorrectly formatted.
Don't know what is wrong with these, please if you could explain how It should be.Yashthepunisher (talk) 4:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
These are newspaper/magazines, so should be referenced using the "cite news" template, and the "work" field, not the "publisher" field. You can see how these are formatted in the various FAs/FLs. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:59, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 6:06, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • What makes India.com a reliable source?
It is a part of the Zee media group per this--Yashthepunisher (talk) 3:09, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Not a valid reason. Surely there are better refs available. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:59, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Replaced.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 6:07, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • What makes HansalMehta.com a reliable source?
Replaced.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 4:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • What makes Bollywood Life a reliable source?
It is also a part of the Zee media group, and has been used in GA's like Kaminey.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 3:09, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid reason for inclusion. Bollywood Life is a gossip site and should never be used in featured quality articles. Please replace it.--Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:59, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Replaced.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 6:08, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate the effort, but there are far too many issues at the moment. The above comments are not exhaustive, and in my opinion this needs a fair amount of work before it's ready for promotion. For now, I have to oppose. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 09:48, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As I said before, the prose has several grammatical errors and several sentences are improperly constructed. FLC reviewers shouldn't be making such corrections. I strongly suggest you to make a copy edit request at the WP:GOCE before you bring this back to the FLC. Good luck. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:59, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree with Krimuk90. I oppose this candidate. This list needs a go at peer review and a copyedit at GOCE before arriving here. The lead is rife with grammatical errors and will need to be rewritten by someone more familiar with English and GOCE is a good option for that. Lead could also be cut down to a better summary, he's had a relatively short career compared to his contemporaries so 618 words seems a bit much. Ideally it should highlight the notable films he's been involved in, the ones that won him recognition or marked setbacks in his career. The tables need rowscopes and colscopes for accessibility. Not sure why being screened at Cannes etc. are mentioned in notes as none of the films won awards at those festivals. A lot of references to youtube which is okay as primary sources as they're from the official channels but secondary sources would be preferred. Cowlibob (talk) 03:49, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Shortened the lead, removed too much youtube references and Cannes/Toronto from the notes.--Yashthepunisher (talk) 9:12, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
@Yashthepunisher: I appreciate the improvements but the grammatical errors still remain in the lead. I see you've put a request over at GOCE and I hope that helps. I'll also point out that words/phrases such as "universal acclaim", slang like "landed", "full-fledged" shouldn't be used. Cowlibob (talk) 03:19, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Over the time the list has seen much improvement, yet the list does not satisfy the featured list criteria. I spot a lot of grammatical errors in the list. There are a few issue in references, for example ref. 102 - a YouTube source from an unknown user, which is unacceptable. The work is done quite well, yet I will suggest the nominator to withdraw the list and go with a peer review and/or request a thorough copy-edit at WP:GOCE. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT 14:44, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Looks like the nominator has opened up a peer review for the list. Suggest them to withdraw the candidate. —Vensatry (ping) 18:31, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I want to withdraw the nomination. --Yashthepunisher (talk) 2:08, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

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