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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 00:11, 14 April 2008.

Talyllyn Railway[edit]

Self nomination A group of editors, including myself, have been working to improve this article since the turn of the year. After achieving good article status recently, we now feel the article is improved in quality to the point of meeting the featured article criteria. Gwernol 13:59, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Issues resolved, Ealdgyth - Talk 23:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All links checked out fine with the link checking tool. I just want to thank you for the bit of nostalgia I had looking at these sources, my father was a railfan for all his life and he would have loved to have contributed to Wikipedia articles on railroads. The scary thing is, I think he owned a number of the books you are referencing. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Ealdgyth. I have added at least publisher and accessdate to all the remaining cite web usages. I have replaced the narrow-gauge-pleasure.co.uk source with a reference to Bate 2002, since that is a much more reliable source. I'm glad you enjoyed reviewing the sources. I'm sorry your father isn't around to read the article, I hope he would have enjoyed it. Best, Gwernol 17:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Any chance that your two lovely self-made maps that are PNG can be included instead as SVGs? — brighterorange (talk) 19:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'd love to, but don't have access to appropriate software to perform the conversion, unfortunately. I use OmniGraffle which only has an SVG export option in the professional version which I don't have. Thanks for the n-dash conversion, by the way. Gwernol 19:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There are three png maps - I've listed them at the Graphics lab to see if anyone is willing to convert them. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 20:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, not to worry, I've figured out how to convert them into SVGs myself using Inkscape. I'm uploading them now. Gwernol 22:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, yes, three. Excellent! — brighterorange (talk) 22:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose until carefully copy-edited; get someone new to do it. Here are mere examples from the top.

  • "Narrow-guage" with the hyphen when a double adjective; I've corrected on, but there is at least one other.
  • "has never closed"; then remove "it".
  • "Since preservation in 1951,"—You've only just told us this.
  • I see too many instances of "the railway" and "railway" in the lead; can you find ways of substituting for some?
  • "later" may mean before or after the Talyllyn; do you mean "subsequent"?
  • At least one metric conversion missing.
  • "in order to"—why not just "to"?
  • "The company obtained parliamentary approval for the railway on 5 July 1865." Now it's less precise than in the lead; better the other way around, or why not specify the title of the act here? Again, you can easily avoid "the railway" repetitions (e.g., "as engineer for the construction of the railway" --> "as constuction engineer").
  • "He laid out plans for a relatively straight line climbing steadily from Tywyn to the quarry and work quickly got underway. By September 1866 construction had advanced to the point where ...". Are you sure the ideas are allocated properly among the sentence? More commas would help readability, too; perhaps audit the whole article in that respect. TONY (talk) 12:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Thanks for your input. You've raised some good points, and I'll have a look at cleaning them up later. I'll also see if I can get someone to read it through from scratch. One point I'd disagree with is the hyphen in narrow gauge. The article Narrow gauge railway does not use hyphens, and more importantly, the Oxford English Dictionary lists the entry for it as two distinct words (WP:HYPHEN recommends consulting a good dictionary). Hopefully we can get the rest cleaned up to your approval soon. — Pek, on behalf of Tivedshambo (talk) 14:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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