Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Kevin Pietersen

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The article was promoted 17:04, 10 June 2007.

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Kevin Pietersen

Self-nomination. This article has seen a huge improvement recently, and is now a stable, fully-referenced article. All the peer review comments have been addressed, and I feel it is ready to nominate for FA. Any thoughts on improving it further will be swiftly dealt with. Cheers, –MDCollins (talk) 22:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

• Support It looks good overall but change the achievements section so it doesn't look like a list, give it a paragraph and may be reorder it. For an example have a look at Adam_Gilchrist#Achievements.--THUGCHILDz 17:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Think I've done this, would you take another look? –MDCollins (talk) 10:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah it's all good, I gave it a little copyedit if you don't mind.--THUGCHILDz 18:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

• Comment SUPPORT Apologies as i did not participate in the peer review:

1."This successful start to his international career has seen him rise rapidly to third in the ICC Player Rankings of Test batsmen, and top of the One-day International batsmen rankings.[8]" - This info can lead to frequent updates as KP's career progresses. Advise re-word

Reworded, removed third place, mentioned that he became the third Englishman to top the ODI rankings.

2."along with his three brothers" - name his brothers (only one seems to be named)

Done

3."a lack of opportunities to bowl having improved his batting." - needs reference

Done

4."described it as "heartbreaking" when he was left out the side,... " - needs copyedit

Done

5."These feelings led to Pietersen leaving South Africa for England" - needs copyedit along with the previous sentence.

Done

Revised feedback/Suggestion: Consider making a sub-section in 'Domestic career' and move all info related to his move from South Africa to England and it's impact.Kalyan 14:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

6."system, and of South African captain Graeme Smith.[26][27] " - no reason given why KP has singled out GS? Captain?

Tried to address this as best I can, but am aware that it doesn't really explain why.

based on the cricinfo link, i think KP latched onto GS because he was the SA captain. Kalyan 14:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

7."His outspoken view of quotas published in his autobiography, Crossing the Boundary, in September 2006, and an interview for South African magazine GQ, led to calls for an investigation regarding bringing the game into disrepute.[28][23]" - what happened after "these calls"?

Don't think anything happened. Have added "unsuccessful calls"...

8."In 2000, Nottinghamshire coach Clive Rice, who had seen " - but the previous para had already talked to KP signing with Nottinghamshire. so this sentence needs to be reconciled with the other one.

Removed earlier sentence, copyedit

9.Please remove "He made an immediate impression in County Cricket:" as it violates tell, don't show.

Fine.

10."After Nottinghamshire were relegated in 2003, Pietersen had a public row with club captain Jason Gallian, where " - what was the row all about? was it because KP decided not to honor the contract?

Have expanded.

11."After being left of the national side to face Bangladesh in May 2005," - copyedit required

Done.

12."the rest of the triangular series, Pietersen was not needed to bat against Bangladesh at Trent Bridge, and then scored 19 off 28 balls, 23 off 26 and six off 10 in the matches at Riverside against Australia, Headingley against Bangladesh, and in the tied final against Australia. " - consider replacing the sentence with a statement on performance, matches played, runs scored and average. I don't think you need a match by match report.

Rewritten.

Will ensure that i shall provide review comments during peer review next time around. Kalyan 18:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem, thanks for your thoughts - I've addressed the issues, feel free to comment some more. –MDCollins (talk) 23:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Provided vote based on the edits made to my comments above. Kalyan 14:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

• Support - A very enjoyable read. Definitely supporting as it is well written, there are no major holes and I think it is certainly of a very high quality. A few points I'd like to raise, however:

1."This period proved to be a purple patch for the batsman," - what's a purple patch? Slang, I assume, which I've never heard of; either needs a wikilink or rewording.

Done

2.During the game I told the captain that I was not happy and that I wanted to leave. ... - this is a direct quote, needs to be put in quotation marks (perhaps using Template:Cquote).

I think this probably qualifies for use as a block quote - although not strictly 4 lines long, in this case I feel it stands out sufficiently from the text to merit this.

3."scoring 27 not out, an unbeaten 77, and a duck, as England won the series 4–0 (he was not required to bat in the third ODI)." - This reads rather awkwardly, listing the third ODI at the end seems odd. Might be okay if left there but with the text changed to "having not been called on to bat" or something similar.

Complete rewrite. It was a five match series anyway!

4.I knew I was going to cop a lot of stick but it will be like water off a duck's back... - again, direct quote, needs quotation marks or Template:Cquote, etc.

c.f. above, this is 4 lines long so can stay as a blockquote.

5."A "stress lesion" rib injury" - what is a stress lesion? Wikilink or rewording required.

No idea - removed it completely.

6."The second innings was not so good, being adjudged "caught-behind" of a Harbhajan Singh delivery after 13 balls." - 'not so good' reads badly; caught behind could do with a wikilink.

rewritten

7."Later in June, Pietersen's scored only 17" - general grammar here

fixed

8."for a golden duck" - Unfortunately, the duck (cricket) article isn't very well written, and lists multiple definitions of golden duck. Could do with clarification in this context.

Have linked, will improve the duck article.

9.Minor inconsistency in the ODI MotM awards, lists scores such as '77*' and '108*', then says '91 not out'). Either change all to * or all to not out. (I'd prefer the first, personally.)

Have changed it to * although there was a comment about this at peer review by somebody who preferred not out - maybe only applied to prose though

10.The only other thing I'd like to see included is the inclusion of Template:Infobox Cricketer (Career), perhaps adjacent to the Domestic career section, although it's not a necessity. Other than that, great work. AllynJ 10:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I'll look into this.

Are there any other articles that use both templates? I have only seen instances that the International infobox takes precedence over the Career one. I'm not against both, but will others see it as over-the-top?–MDCollins (talk) 10:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Graham Gooch, David Gower, Sunil Gavaskar, Kapil Dev, Garfield Sobers, Ricky Ponting, Andy Flower. Whilst the majority are for cricketers who have retired I do think it gives a better overall impression of how the player is doing to include both, personally; though as I said, not a necessity. :)

For further examples, see Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Infobox Cricketer (Career) and look for people you know are international cricketers. AllynJ 11:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I've transcluded it now, looks fine.

Thanks for the review, –MDCollins (talk) 22:33, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Excellent, good luck with the rest of the nom. :) AllynJ 11:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

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