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Croeso. I'm interested to know where you got the 1215 date for Dafydd ap Llywelyn's birth? Deb (talk) 18:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Dafydd ap Llywelyn's birth

S'mae Deb. The birth date comes from J. Beverley Smith's article on Dafydd in the latest edition of the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Hope that helps. Ynyrhesolaf (talk) 21:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I see. The Dictionary of Welsh Biography gives c.1208, but of course that's quite old - does the DNB give any supporting evidence for the other date? Must remember to look at the new Encyclopaedia when I get home. Deb (talk) 11:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

It is known for certain that Dafydd could not have been born earlier than 1211; but the estimate is based on the conjecture that, as Dafydd's first surviving charter was issued in February 1229, he must have been born no later than February 1215 (as one could only issue charters from the age of fourteen onwards). J. B. Smith based his estimate on this theory. In any case, the DWB is, as you say, out of date on this point! Ynyrhesolaf (talk) 17:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I see the new Encyclopedia gives c. 1215. How do they know he couldn't have been born before 1211? Deb (talk) 17:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

A clause in the agreement signed by Llywelyn and King John in August 1211 contains a clause that implies Llywelyn had not sired an heir by his wife Joan at that time. Presumably J. E. Lloyd - who (if memory serves) wrote the DWB article - was not aware of the existence of this document, or failed to make this inference. Ynyrhesolaf (talk) 17:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, that's interesting. A gap in my knowledge (let's face it, there are plenty of those!). Deb (talk) 17:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Madog

Good point on today's effort. Don;t know how I missed that when I looked at it! Thanks --Snowded TALK 10:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

No bother. I updated Madog's page a few days back. One might include a reference to Llywelyn Bren's revolt in 1316 too, but it was not Wales-wide - only confined to Glamorgan and Gwent. Good article tho! Ynyrhesolaf (talk) 08:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Dafydd ap Llywelyn's birthplace

Hi! I was wondering how can we be sure Dafydd was born in Castell Hen Blas, Coleshill, Bagillt in Flintshire? I'm working on his life for my university studies in France and I never found any mention to that castle and the Dafydd's birthplace... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.28.135.46 (talk) 16:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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Owain Glyndŵr

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Hi. The best thing to do is to make Isabel ferch Gruffudd Fychan a redirect to Isabel ferch Gruffudd. Just create the page with "#REDIRECT [[Isabel ferch Gruffudd]]" as the only content. Another useful trick, although unnecessary in this case, is to create a link with a bar, like this: [[Isabel ferch Gruffudd|the sister of Owain Glyndŵr]] (don't forget, by the way, to include the to bach on the w in his name. You can get accents from the box under the edit window, by selecting "Latin" from the options on the left). That will produce the following link: the sister of Owain Glyndŵr. I hope that helps! garik (talk) 18:17, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

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Acts of Welsh Rulers

Hi Ynyrhesolaf. I noticed that you've used as a source the book Acts of Welsh Rulers. I wonder if you still have a copy of it handy. One of the sources of an article I'm working on cites that particular book for a certain Welsh document which is covered in Acts of Welsh Rulers (no. 317; page 490). I was hoping that if you've got the book handy could you look up that page and tell me if the document is a charter, or a letter, or something. All I know is that it covers a transaction between Llywelyn ap Gruffydd (d. 1282) and Ralph de Mortimer (d. 1246), concerning the lands of Maelienydd and Gwerthrynion; and that it is dated to 1241. My source just calls it "an important document", and an editor wants me describe it better.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 07:21, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

That does help me. Thank you very much! :)--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 17:28, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

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Dolgellau

Bore da, Ynyrhesolaf. I noted your edit to Dolgellau and reverted it; i wanted to let you know why: The reference you removed did cover the statement made in the article. As soon as i've finished here i'm going back to it and tweak the wording to make it even more accurate; cheers, Lindsay^Hello 11:59, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

S'mae Lindsay - gobeithio eich bod chi'n cadw'n iawn!

I changed the original because it is incorrect to say that Dolgellau is the oldest club in Wales, but even with the article as it stands, my main objection to the description of Dolgellau even as 'one of the oldest clubs in Wales' is that it makes the club sound exceptional. Even if one limits the geographical scope to north Wales, there are over a dozen clubs that were formed before Dolgellau - some of the more well known include Wrexham, Mold and Llangollen, all of which predate Dolgellau by over a quarter of a century, and Bangor, Holyhead and Beaumaris, which were formed in the 1850s. The wording is now 'one of the oldest', which means it's in the eye of the beholder, I suppose; but even so, there must be dozens of clubs in the south that predate it. If Dolgellau can make this claim, so can any number of other clubs. I'd appreciate your thoughts. Ynyrhesolaf (talk) 18:14, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't mind, really, either way. My point is that the reference itself indicates that it is one of the oldest in Wales, which is why i put it back ~ it was substantiated by the ref; on the other hand, the more important/interesting point is who founded it, which is also substantiated by the reference, so i added it to the article. By all means, let's take out the "earliness" of the Club, but leave in Temple. As a side note, did he have any other links with Dolgellau or North Wales, do you know? That might be something interesting to develop. I took a quick look at his article and didn't see anything, but was in rather a hurry at the time. Thanks for responding; cheers, Lindsay^Hello 11:05, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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