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Deleted Article[edit]

Hi
I created my first article on a non profit organization called Rush Soccer but the page was denied and deleted before I had time to address the matter. By any chance, do you know is there a way to restore the sandbox in order to change the few sentence that needed to be fix so I won't have to go through again the process to code a whole new page (which it is very time consuming when you are newbie like me )
I appreciate your time.

--Pelo1007 (talk) 07:13, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your article was a copyright violation. Even if you did ask the deleting admin RHaworth to save it to your userspace he wouldn't because it was a copyright violation. The best thing you could do is just start over again from scratch. Whispering 21:47, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

External Links and WP:BLPPROD[edit]

Hi, please don't use BLPPROD on articles that have external links on them, as you did here: Special:diff/819178073, as external links count as sources and BLPPROD is only to be used where there are no sources at all. A WP:PROD, or an appropriate WP:CSD are the correct methods for uncontroversial deletion of BLP's that have at least 1 source on them. Thanks. IffyChat -- 09:59, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't know external links were sources now. That seems kinda silly, oh well. Whispering 23:10, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Population of Traverse City[edit]

The current census estimate of the population of Traverse City is only around 15,500. The 143,000 number is for the Traverse City micropolitan area, which includes all of Benzie, Grand Traverse, Kalkaska and Leelanau counties, an area that include another city and 12 villages plus 48 townships. Imzadi 1979  04:48, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, yes, you are right. If you want delete it I won't protest. Whispering 04:53, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sricity Nature Society[edit]

Hi, Sricity Nature Society is a is a non profit organisation founded by a group of nature lovers in Sri City. SNS promotes appreciation, education and conservation of Nature. its similar to Nature Forever Society

I was just adding more details to it when you nominated it for deletion. Request you to kindly remove the deletion nomination. Shmilyshy 05:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC) thank you.[reply]

19:52:43, 20 January 2018 review of submission by Smpmp01[edit]


Thank you for your feedback. With respect to citations, am I correct in thinking that what I really need are references to PRINT publications that substantiate the statement I make in the text. For example, if I say he was head of the School of Music at a university, I would want to cite a print publication that supports that statement?

Also, there are some things that do not exist in print. For example in this case, published software programs or musical scores being offered online by publishers who no longer mail out printed catalogs. Is there no way to use an external link for those?

Smpmp01 (talk) 19:52, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, you don't need all print references the reliable source page will give you more information. And as far as the external links go I think you are confusing references and external links. Whispering 05:16, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

David Davies Memorial Institute[edit]

We had an edit conflict by both declining the draft at the same time and both reporting the account as promotional at the same time. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:37, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! Whispering 21:38, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 15:50:58, 29 January 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Scairp4[edit]


Hello Whispering! Thank you for reviewing the article (biography) I submitted. The subject fulfills several of the criteria for notable persons (academics) (e.g. holds a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution, is an elected member of several prestigious scientific associations (e.g. AAAS, AE, EMBO)) - I will add more references to verify this. In the section 'Scientific interests', what is needed in addition to the references I included? I already included references to his major findings which are published in leading peer-reviewed journals (e.g. Science, Nature) and external links to Scopus and Google scholar where one can find his h-index and citation record, as well as the institute's website, etc. Could you advise me how I can improve this, please? I look forward to your feedback! Scairp4 (talk) 15:50, 29 January 2018 (UTC) Scairp4 (talk) 15:50, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Whispering. Articles on academics need to meet WP:PROF which uses a somewhat different set of criteria from most articles on people. The content of the article on Stainier shows that he meets those criteria since he is a fellow of the AAAS. It does need rewriting, but clearly shows notability. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:29, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I did a spot check and didn't see any references hence the review. If you feel that strongly about the draft just put it up for review again. Whispering 23:26, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPP Backlog Drive Appreciation[edit]

Thank You
Thank you for reviewing articles during the 2018 NPP New Year Backlog Drive. Always more to do, but thanks for participating. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 05:48, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Worm Gear
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Speedy deletion declined: The Companion Magazine[edit]

Hello Whispering. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of The Companion Magazine, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 cannot be applied to magazines, try WP:PROD or WP:AFD if a merger/redirect to the publishing entity is not feasible. Thank you. SoWhy 12:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Denied Article[edit]

Hi
I created an article Draft:Moozlie, however it was denied due to referencing the person's website. I have addressed the issue but I have received no feedback. I was advised to merge Draft:Nomuzi_Mabena to Draft:Moozlie, would like assistance with that.

--Nelisa85 (talk) 08:24, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In all honesty the best place to ask for help is at the help desk. Whispering 22:56, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

saud[edit]

hi look page for saud

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Saud_Abdullah_Al-Qahtani

Mohammed T (talk) 04:26, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 05:08:19, 5 February 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by ZenaDC-Logal[edit]


Dear Whispering: Hopefully you agree that is helpful for us to address the impression you have shared of our proposed article. Our goal is to comply with Wikipedia's publishing guidelines and a condition precedent to accomplishing that goal is, of course, you being of the impression that it has been accomplished. Frankly, Opt IN USA's administrators were surprised and disappointed that our overview merely describing Opt IN USA, its objectives, and contentions (clearly identified as such) were dismissed as advertisement-like. Our Wikipedia draft is meant to create public awareness of Opt IN USA (as other Wikipedia entries have seemed to do with regard to other social justice movements), not hard sell or prove related contentions. Additional guidance from you as to what language suggests otherwise would be very much appreciated.

Also, please note that Opt IN USA's contentions are very much premised on independent, reliable, published sources -- a fact that would be clear from our draft if our intent was to detail as opposed to merely reference those contentions and direct our Wikipedia audience to related white papers. Naturally we don't intend for our Wikipedia entry to duplicate Opt IN USA's extensive publications that cite similarly researched writings (some peer-reviewed) of the campaign's sister organizations and leaders. Is it not enough for Wikipedia to verify that Opt IN USA is in fact an ongoing campaign with the objectives and contentions credited to it by our proposed Wikipedia article? All the citations needed to accomplish that task have been provided.

Finally, it is difficult to imagine that America's position on the Optional Protocols of two (2) of its most prominent human rights treaties would not be considered a notable subject and/or that the existence of the U.S. legal/judicial system reform movement from which Opt IN USA evolved would not be considered a notable subject. Does Wikipedia contend otherwise?

Your consideration and assistance are very much appreciated. Thank you. Opt IN USA administrators look forward to your response. ZenaDC-Logal (talk) 05:08, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The main problem here is that you think that Wikipedia is a social network it's not. Wikipedia isn't here to raise public awareness, for any cause. Wikipedia is here to present the facts. Whispering 02:50, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I sought to understand why the Opt IN USA draft is not being perceived as factual. After all, the allegations and contentions it references are clearly identified as such. What I discovered is that the draft should qualify as a Wikipedia article barring a "notability" problem per the guidance at "Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)" @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies). As the Opt IN USA draft indicates, Opt IN USA is a project of National Judicial Conduct and Disability Law Project, Inc. (NJCDLP) which meets Wikipedia's "notability" criteria. So, unless you recommend a different approach, the Opt IN USA draft will be revised to establish NJCDLP's notability and the corresponding notability of its initiative, Opt IN USA. Then the draft will proceed with its description of Opt IN USA, tweaked to strengthen the neutral, facts-only approach it currently takes with citations to sources confirming its representations. Again, thank you for your consideration. ZenaDC-Logal (talk) 04:52, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Tjebbe van Tijen[edit]

Hello Whispering. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Tjebbe van Tijen, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: previous (revdel'd) version contained plenty of claims of significance and a short GNews/GBooks search indicates that significance might well exist. Use WP:AFD instead. Thank you. SoWhy 09:02, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

10:47:56, 5 February 2018 review of submission by Tumaihi9[edit]


Tumaihi9 (talk) 10:47, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of travel books[edit]

Hi Whispering, I'm puzzled by your recent edit because it in fact deleted the article. I had moved it back to its original place. Rwood128 (talk) 10:47, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

18:52:50, 7 February 2018 review of submission by Theokarfak[edit]


Theokarfak (talk) 18:52, 7 February 2018 (UTC) Hello just wanted to ask the reasons as to why you believe this article reads more like an advertisement, I mean precise reasons as much as possible, thank you in advance Theokarfak (talk) 18:52, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because of phrases like "environmental justice", it's just not written in a formal encyclopedic tone. You might want to check out WP:PEACOCK. Whispering 22:15, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Reviewer Newsletter[edit]

Hello Whispering, thank you for your efforts in reviewing new pages!
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Hi, please don't add disambiguation templates to pages that are clearly WP:BROADCONCEPT pages, like Rohingya persecution in Myanmar. If you are having trouble telling which pages are ambiguous and which are broad concepts, please ask the experts at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation. Thanks. bd2412 T 01:08, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

21:18:15, 15 February 2018 review of submission by 24.239.85.25[edit]


24.239.85.25 (talk) 21:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]


please review this and accept it and i will retype it myself to better page. thank you for your time

09:40:15, 2 March 2018 review of submission by 202.142.113.137[edit]


202.142.113.137 (talk) 09:40, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rastislav Michal Page Page submission Refusal[edit]

Yes, Whispering, all the sources in my document are pamphlets or books created by the artist himself.

I personally met the artist in Prague and he commented that he couldn’t provide more information about publishers, etc. since these catalogues were done by him for his solo or collaborative exhibitions.

I hope this helps. I would like to create this page to give this painter and print maker more recognition, especially for English speaking readers.

Thanks for your help, Whispering.

Bigmigs67 Bigmigs67 (talk) 05:11, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review Newsletter No.10[edit]

Hello Whispering, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

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NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018[edit]

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NPP Backlog Elimination Drive[edit]

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NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018[edit]

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. (Purge)

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June backlog drive

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.

New technology, new rules
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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018[edit]

Hello Whispering, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

Project news
As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
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Moving to Draft and Page Mover
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About you declining my article[edit]

Since you didn't reply to my argument on my talk page as to why the Nintendo Switch Pro Controller should be an article, I've decided to leave that message here, "The Wii U Pro Controller has its own article despite it being shorter than my draft, so I don't see why the Nintendo Switch Pro Controller can't have its own article. It's better to have information solely about the pro controller on its own article rather than have a short paragraph overview of the Pro controller on the Nintendo Switch Wikipedia article." 344917661X (talk) 19:15, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest if that came up for AfC I would of declined it as well. Whispering 12:55, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi you declined the CSD G4 for the above. I have already restored the redirect and it was reverted more than once hence the G4. If the redirect is removed again what do we do? If it been deleted and redirected then there would be no history to revert to each time. Dom from Paris (talk) 20:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Domdeparis: Well the admin checking the speedy would likely just restore the redirect. If the person keeps removing the redirect you could ask for protection over at Requests for page protection. Whispering 20:22, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

October 2018[edit]

WP:UAA reports on users with no edits[edit]

Generally, there is no reason to report usernames with no edits whatsoever. Per WP:UAAI: "Wait until the user edits. Do not report a user that hasn't edited unless they are clearly a vandal. We do not want to welcome productive editors with a report at UAA, nor do we want to waste our time dealing with accounts that may never be used." The exceptions are obvious hate speech or names that attack a living person/Wikipedia editor, those are blockable even without any edits, but other run-of-the-mill violations need not be reported unless and until they at least attempt to edit, and you should be able to clearly explain what the problem is if it is not immediately evident.

For whatever reason, every day dozens, if not hundreds of accounts are created that never make one single edit. It is our responsibility as admins to conscientiously review every report a user makes at UAA, so we have to check for contribs, deleted contribs, and tripping of the edit filter for every one of these reports, only to find out there's nothing there and therefore no problem to be solved. That's time that could be spent doing more productive things, but you basically obligate admins to do it by making such reports. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:52, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pending changes reviewer granted[edit]

Hello. Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.

Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also:

Beeblebrox (talk) 17:48, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018[edit]

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Whispering, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Backlog

As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal
Project updates
  • ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
  • There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.
New scripts

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Request on 18:45:53, 24 October 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Sdwarren[edit]


Hi, Can you take a look at our submission again? We've input a number of references with verifiable sources. Thanks!

Sdwarren (talk) 18:45, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

UAA reports[edit]

While reporting is always appreciated, I have just declined several of your reports at UAA. The username policy has numerous nuances that can make it tricky to navigate. The bits relevant to your reports:

  • UAA is only for names so obvious they merit an immediate block with no prior discussion.
  • WP:ORGNAME only applies to names that clearly and unambiguously represent an organization, product, or website. Names that kind of seem like they might be connected are not blatant violations and therefore not blockable. You can try discussing such borderline cases directly with the user, and if that does not achieve a satisfactory result, file at WP:RFCN so that a consensus may be reached.
  • Real names of people who are not notable are not blockable, including the “official” accounts of such persons. For some reason a lot of folks from certain parts of the world seem to feel a need to create their “official” account here before someone else takes it. It’s pretty silly but not a violation of the username policy.

Hope that helps. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:06, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Central African lion[edit]

Thanks for your attempt for temporary full protection of this page!! I highly appreciate this. Alas, the other editor insists on keeping false information in there, despite repeated requests to respond to issues I raised on the talk page, see also Talk:Central_African_lion#MISinterpreting_sources and the two previous sections re Cameroon lion and Congo lion. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 09:11, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Nissan Terrano[edit]

@User:Whispering Please allow me to create an article for Nissan Terrano SUV as this is the main artilce of this SUV, which spans into three generations. I have tried my best to make it look better. Please kindly refer to these Wikipedia article on danish: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Terrano ; german: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Terrano ; french: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Terrano ; japanese: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Terrano ; polish : https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Terrano ; portuguese: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Terrano slovak: https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Terrano swedish: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Terrano — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rejs12345 (talkcontribs) 18:45, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please undelete the article, HPEV Solar Fuel Cell[edit]

RobertBercovitz (talk) 19:40, 2 November 2018 (UTC) thank-you.[reply]

@RobertBercovitz: Well I cannot revert deleted articles as I am not a admin. However, if you mean your draft HPEV Solar Fuel Cell it's still there and can be worked upon. --Whispering 20:34, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Whispering. RobertBercovitz (talk) 21:12, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 20:49:33, 2 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Bonjours1234[edit]


Hi

I created a page which was reviewed by you and found to have infringed copyright. I can correct that but it seems the page has ben deleted. How can I retrieve the page to correct the issue?

Thanks

Bonjours1234 (talk) 20:49, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 10:14:44, 3 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Xinqizi[edit]


I tried to set up a new page, called "Ronnarong Khampha", but it was declined.

The reason was "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources. This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

I understand the problem. I'm now collecting additional sourcing and reference materials. I'll edit and re-submit once I have those. Please do not delete the draft - collecting the reference materials may take a little time.

Xinqizi (talk) 10:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Xinqizi (talk) 10:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 06:48:03, 12 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Reinaabeja[edit]



Reinaabeja (talk) 06:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you! I corrected the draft, and it has been resubmitted. Please, if you have time, could you check it?

Sikh Dharma: avoiding an edit war[edit]

Dear Whispering: You recently reverted an edit to the Sikh Dharma entry, which replaced that page's redirect page with a disambiguation page--a change that was previously posted for discussion on that entry's Talk page. Your edit summary does not address the issues identified for discussion on the Talk page. For the moment I am leaving your reversion in place in hopes of a resolution. I invite you to join me in a substantive discussion at the Talk page to identify why you believe a disambiguation page is inappropriate.

Please note that if this matter is not resolved through the Talk page, I expect to revert your edit and restore the disambiguation page.

- Lapith (talk) 18:43, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi[edit]

Thank you for notifying me, I added sources to the Ahmet Saffet Ohkay draft, kind regards. Redman19 (talk) 16:04, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

About review of draft :Baburam Adhikari[edit]

Dear Sir/Madam, respectfully, would you mind to review this article named Baburam Adhikari? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharad87 (talkcontribs) 18:11, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 10:27:20, 15 November 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by AdHoog[edit]


Hi there, i'm unsure why this has been rejected as Jennifer Morgan is the international executive director of a well-known organization: Greenpeace https://www.greenpeace.org/international/author/jennifer-morgan/

Furthermore, this is merely a translation of a German page: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Morgan

Please tell me specifically how I can make this page acceptable for publication.

Thank you for any assistance

AdHoog (talk) 10:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AdHoog (talk) 10:27, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AdHoog: The reason I declined it is because it doesn't have any references. Wikipedia needs and I quote the decline reason: "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject." So, add some references, cite them and submit it again. --Whispering(talk) 13:05, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018[edit]

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Whispering,

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If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.
We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.
With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

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Investitions bank berlin[edit]

I did, now i wait the article back to wikipedia. By the way, there are malicious administrators who have behind them 500,000 articles deleted in wikipedia in English.--Chochorico (talk) 15:00, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Whispering. Would you mind taking a look at Investitionsbank Berlin? Is it the same version you draftified? It's pretty promotional in nature, and it doesn't really seem ready for the mainspace; the creator, however, has been indef'd which means draftifying it again might just end turning into a WP:G13 in six months. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:41, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Marchjuly Yeah, it's pretty much the same article albeit with some references now. Whispering(t) 13:49, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification. Since the creator has been indefinitely blocked, I'm not sure if draftifying it again is a viable option. Do you think it can be left as is, or should it be brought to AfD? Googling the bank's name gets a fair amount of hits, but most of them seem to be to websites in German; so, I'm not sure how reliable they are for English Wikipedia's purpose. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:19, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Marchjuly Really it's up to you but sources on the English Wikipedia don't have to be in english, it's prefered for obvious reasons but not mandatory. If you think it will be deleted at AfD go ahead and AfD it. Sorry for the long reply I got busy at work. Whispering(t) 16:06, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking another look. I've asked a few WikiProject about this, so mayve someone will know where to find some better/additional sources. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:31, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo, I came across this article while stubsorting earlier today, and it got onto my watchlist because I created its talkpage. Please move it back to mainspace: it had several good reliable sources, though they were listed as "External links" and didn't show their true nature. I've upgraded the formatting of those refs so that they now show where they came from. They don't perhaps source the exact list of 10 named oblasts, but I think the rest is well sourced and ought to be in main space before someone else creates a duplicate article. I can't move it myself because you edited the redirect. Can you? If not I'll have to ask for admin assistance. Thanks. PamD 16:48, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

More: thinking about it, I'm pretty sure you can't move it, and you don't seem to be online, so will ask at WP:AN. PamD 16:57, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Request on 17:40:12, 10 December 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Shannah78[edit]


I got the idea that I should have a wikipedia page due to the fact that many of our competitors seem to have one. E.g. ABBYY_FineReader

I used this wiki page as a starting point for our own, trying to be as objective as that page appears to be. Can you you help me to identify the key differences between that page and my submission so that I can amend the submission to meet standards?

Shannah78 (talk) 17:40, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Declined article: Brighton and Hove local election, 2019[edit]

I saw you rejected this piece for being too soon, but I wanted to know why this was rejected whilst there are several others that deal with specific local elections next year which have been approved. I've not tried to predict the future here; I was creating a page for a scheduled event of notable importance. I've already been in touch with several political parties to find out whether they'll be running in this area to help improve the piece. I hope you can enlighten me as to why mine was rejected and others, which contain as much (or little if you wish to be critical) as mine have been approved. ~~~~ dgreenbrighton (talk) 00:28, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Dgreenbrighton: I don't deal with other pages I deal with pages in AfC. It's a clear violation of WP:CRYSTAL. However you do bring up another issue you've been in touch with several political parties which violates no original research. We need secondary sources to have articles posted on Wikipedia. Whispering(t) 14:46, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018[edit]

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See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.


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Please don't move articles to draft space for missing sources[edit]

Hi there. Per WP:NEXIST, insufficient sourcing is not a reason for removal of content from mainspace. If a subject can plausibly be sourced, it is allowed to stay in mainspace even if it is not sourced at the moment. Also, I noted multiple times that you moved pages that contained previously merged or copied text, breaking attribution which is also against policy. Regards SoWhy 16:48, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]