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Hello. Please check out User:Endroit/Chinese_Romanization, and make additions/corrections where necessary. I am asking Yuje, Ran, Visviva, Nanshu, Babelfisch, Kusunose, and Saintjust to check and modify this Chinese Romanization proposal within the next 5 days.
After that we should move this Chinese Romanization page to a Project Page, and then request formal Mediation/Arbitration. I would like to nominate Yuje or Ran to be the leader for this project. Or I can be leader also. Please let me know what you think. Thanks.--Endroit 09:43, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I made one mistake. The text where you signed should have been "romanizations" instead of "characters".
So after correction, it is now:
"Please sign your name ..... if you support restoration of Chinese charactersromanizations."
(I'm sure you knew that already, but please verify to make sure you are comfortable with that). Thanks for signing.--Endroit 23:38, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Hello, thanks for your edits on Korean films. Your work is very helpful. However, please be careful to include the "mr" (McCune-Reischauer) and "hanja" fields when you change to the Korean film infobox. Thanks!"

Visviva, I am delighted to read your comments. But with regard to "mr" and "hanja", I have little knowledge on these romanizations and characters. I was hoping that someone would enter them for me since it would be difficult to translate from hangul to hanja. 69.227.173.21 02:11, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Korean Irregular Army[edit]

Hey, thanks for merging Korean Irregular Army -- I was trying to fix the punctuation and formatting and, not knowing ANYTHING about Korean history, gave up, not knowing what to do, and threw up my hands and surrendered. It's piqued my curiosity, and now I've got some interesting articles to read, starting with Righteous army -- thanks!!!!!!! ArglebargleIV 06:39, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you only found Samjiyeon when I wikilinked it from Air Koryo? Thanks for expanding; do you know where I can find a photo of that town? --Shultz IV 05:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies and Thanks[edit]

Hi, thanks for your nice words and I really have to apologize for messing up Uija of Baekje. I moved too rashly on it. I've always just learn MR system and still getting used to the RR. Just when I think I know it there's a twist. Thanks for keeping me in line and all your work on Korean topics. Straitgate 19:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seowon and Seodang[edit]

Visviva, I notice you did the article on Seowon. I have been interested in translating some articles about Confucianism and pre-modern education in East Asia. I did the article on Temple of Confucius and recently translated articles on the White Deer Grotto Academy and Chinese Shuyuan. However, I've been having some trouble finding good, reliable information. For instance, the Japanese article on Shuyuan says that Shuyuan were generally privately-run rather than government run. On the other hand, it seems Shuyuan were also established under Imperial command, and one English name for them is Imperial Academy.

The article on Confucian Temples also mentions that Confucian temples were usually found in conjunction with schools, but also mentions the Confucian temples found in association with Shuyuan as a "different kind" of Confucian temple. The implication is that there are two kinds of school: Confucian schools and Shuyuan.

As you can see, it is all rather confusing! That is why I was interested the situation in Korea, which had a lot of Seowon. However, I'm similarly confused about the Seowon. In the article you mention the Seodong as "similar" to but "less closely regulated" than the Seowon. However, this site (http://www.nfm.go.kr:8080/english/hall_3/iframe_hall3_menu1_5.jsp) suggests that the Seodang were a lower level than the Seowon, and that people started in the Seodang and went on to the Seowon: "From Seodang, depending on one's academic aptitude and means, students progress to Hyanggyo or Seowon for further study."

I was just wondering if you have more information that you could use to work up a more detailed page about Seowon and maybe a separate page on Seodang. Given that education is regarded as so important in East Asian countries, and that Confucianism has played a big role in that, it would be interesting if this area could be covered in Wikipedia. I find that many topics of pre-modern Korea and its history are terribly lacking in Wikipedia, including articles on famous thinkers and philosophers, among other things. It would be nice if the balance could be redressed. Bathrobe 11:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious about something that may be related. Richard Rutt, in his book "Korean Works and Days" mentions the confucian schools but calls them "Hyangyo" (if memory serves). There was one such outside the town of Hwasun Eup where I lived while in the Peace Corps in the early 70s. Is this the same as the Seowon? --Dan 23:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Okay, thanks for the pointer to the hyanggyo section. Interesting. The one in Hwasun was kept up, although I don't think it was active. Rutt says they taught Chinese classics, starting with the Whitehead Classic and working up to The Book of Changes, so it was plainly an orientation to the civil service exams. A lot like Korean schools today, except the orientation is now towards more Western curricula. The Hwasun Hyanggyo, by the way, had three pretty good-sized buldings, and a three-colored taeguk on the gate. There was a rumor that a local moodang (shaman) was living there. --Dan 16:22, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted your edit to this talk page, as obviously you reverted someone else's (who actually looked into what they were talking about) valid edit when they added the FACfailed template. Chuck 10:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I apologize for the cynicism, but it was late when I was editing last night. The reason I did make that comment was because in addition to the sub-page link, there's also a statement on the template that says older nominations might be found in the archive (I'm assuming you would look for them there if there was no sub-page link). If users are expected to find the nomination page (which I believe they should, especially after I fixed over 50 of them for hours last night...and there's still more), then there shouldn't be a suggestion to look in the archive, as the link to the nomination would already be there. I guess, what I'm saying is that the template needs changing. I have now noticed that you weren't the only one to suspect vandalsim. Thanks for the response and your comments. Chuck 14:16, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More than one Korea-related topics list?[edit]

Any idea why List of Korea-related topics (O) is a different list from the one you are working on List_of_Korea-related_topics_(L-Z)#O? I don't think it's good if there are 2 or 3 alphabetical lists that are each different. Badagnani 11:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Guidelines for Wikipedia lists of ethnic groups[edit]

Please may I draw your attention to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Guidelines_for_Wikipedia_lists_of_ethnic_groups

Your contributions would be very welcome. -- Brownlee 11:43, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Korean Bridge[edit]

sorry about erasing the table. I didn't take the time to analyze it, and thought that it was giving facts in korean and not that was an actual translation of the name into roman characters. But I'm still wondering what the name of the bridge means or does it have any translation at all into english. --Don Quijote's Sancho 17:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gama jpg[edit]

Hey Visviva. Could you please take a look at the [[1]]?

Thanks. (later, forgot to add this:) (Wikimachine 00:39, 12 April 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Could you give the community your input on the NOR changes made unilaterally without a consensus being reached? I have proposed a compromise...and reverted to original so discussion and consensus can be reached. But a revert war is being started there, when it was a violation of policy to make a unilateral change to a policy page without consensus...I need your advice and input at least, whether you agree or not, to get consensus on this. Thanks. --Northmeister 04:48, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Inhabitation of Korea for a million years[edit]

Hello Visviva. You've requested for a source that corroborate my edit that suggests that some believe Korea have been inhabitated for a million years. While there are quite a few Korean references, only one I can find that is written in English comes from the North Korean Central News Agency controlled by Kim Jong-il regime. I've cited this source which is [2] for your reference, and accordingly, I edited the section on Korean prehistory that now it reads

some from North Korea claim it may have been inhabited for 1,000,000 years

Until I find an English source that says otherwise, I will not push argument that this theory is accepted widely outside North Korea. --Sydneyphoenix

This not accepted by the scholarly archaeological/paleo-anthroplogical community. If any human ancestors lived in the korean peninsula a million or more years ago would almost have to have been Homo erectus. Since Peking Man (a Homo erectus dating to 400K BP or later) was found in fairly northern China it is possible, though. Kdammers 04:51, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Overwhelmed![edit]

Following my message of 7 April, I have to admit that I'm overwhelmed by your recent contributions on pre-modern Korean topics! This is filling a huge gap. Thanks to your efforts Wikipedia is probably becoming the best source of information for this whole area.

Recently User:Deiaemeth did an article on the Korean scholar Yi Su-gwang, which I found totally fascinating. While I was ferreting around, I found this site [3] which identified Yi Sugwang as one of the "four Sirhak scholars, Yi Sugwang (1563-1628), Yi Ik (1681-1763), An Chôngbok (1712-1791), Hong Taeyong (1731-1783)". There is no Wikipedia entry for Sirhak, but there is a page for Silhak, which simply redirects to Neo-Confucianism. Needless to say, "Neo-Confucianism" focuses on the Chinese version, with little to say about Korean Confucianism. There is a page on Korean Confucianism but it doesn't mention "Sirhak/Silhak" at all. It appears to have been a major school or movement within Korean Confucianism and the lack of coverage in Wikipedia seems anomalous. I just wondered if you have any material on Sirhak/Silhak that could form the basis of an article or stub?

Anyway, I just want to repeat how amazing it is that you've added so much about Korea. Keep up the good work! User:Bathrobe 14 April (not logged in)

Yeouido Island[edit]

Hi, I was a bit surprised that a major island in Seoul didn't have its own article already. I just created it. Would you like to upgrade it and maybe add some photos please? Thanks. --Shultz IV 00:45, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How can I add a photo to an article?[edit]

Wik seems to make uploading a photo an intentional mystery. The how-to pages start off promising to say how but don't. Can You help me? KIM Kdammers 00:25, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kumdo[edit]

Hello. I am Michael Friedrich. You may remember me. I am the one who made a suggestion that Kumdo be merged into Kendo. I left an answer to your comment. Please read it and leave a comment, whether you're still against the merger or not. As for now, 3, including me, are for the merger and 3, including you, are against it. This talk is not over yet. If you don't leave a comment, I understand it as approval for the merger. Thanks.Michael Friedrich 15:53, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Buddist Scripture?[edit]

Hello! I have a question for you. I'm planning to write an article on the world's oldest printed document, 무구정광대다라니경. It was discovered in Bulguk-sa and was designated as one of national treasures of Korea. I wanted to write an article about it, but the problem is, I can't find an English name for it. I'm just wondering, do you konw the English name for it? Or do you know if there is a special naming convention for Buddhist scriptures? Regards, Deiaemeth 05:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CSD:A7[edit]

Thank you for your support and encouragement in the {{db-web}} TFD debate, when you wrote: "Keep, per arguments above. Appears to provide a useful amount of additional information." There was some resistence to creating a template that didn't exactly match the policy description, but I have discovered that the policy description does not fully reflect the policy proposals that have been approved. I have begun a discussion here. GeorgeStepanek\talk 09:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've added quite a bit to Korean wines and have had to add some categories. However, some wines are similar to others and I'm not sure I've got everything right. Can you help? Badagnani 07:57, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you check the photo I've just added to Cheongju (wine)? The photo is from the Chung Ha site but I can't really read hangul so I wonder if these bottles are all Chung Ha cheongju. None of the labels seems to say "Chung Ha" in hangul. Thanks, Badagnani 21:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at least if they're not Japanese sake, I guess it's okay...? I've put some photos up at Korean wine, if you're interested. It's very colorful. The profusion of Korean wines are amazing, so much more interesting than Chinese ones. Badagnani 23:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I looked on the Cheongju website -- http://www.cheong-ju.co.kr/ and see all of these labels listed there. So they're all Cheongju products. Badagnani 23:36, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was rather surprised no one started the article earlier. Anyway, I started it and thought I'd have you take a look at it. What do you think? What would you like to add and improve there?

Anyway, on the {{korean}} template, there was a "Tasks you can help with" dropdown and there's where I saw that "North Korean famine" wasn't created yet. --Shultz IV 00:27, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS: In case you'd rather work on something else, what other active Korean editor do you suggest I take this up to? --Shultz IV 02:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for praising my recent contributions. PS: Do you live in Korea by any chance or are you currently in a foreign country? If you're Korean by blood, I'm curious- how come you chose "Visviva" in particular? (My username is my last name. I'm kind of thinking about changing my username to something more culturally distinct though. If I ever decide to, this will be through a bureaucrat, not by starting a new account entirely.) --Shultz IV 10:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Korean games[edit]

I actually did list Category:Korean games for renaming on the log, but it was archived since seven days passed. See Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 April 16. I guess if it's not possible to rename it with 4 votes, it can be redefined as you suggested. ~ Hibana 16:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of Korea-related topics[edit]

Hi, Visviva: Your recent changes to to the 1-K and L-Z pages look very good. The pictures down the right-hand sides of the pages is a nice touch. Wow, you must have put a lot of work into that! Just one small question...do all the entry terms have to be in bold? It's a bit jarring on the eyes. Maybe you wanted to differentiate entries from explanatory text, but the fact that the entry words are hyperlinks should be enough of a visual cue. -Sewing - talk 18:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I'm a bit confused, because you've also got pages for individual pages for A through Z (as well as 0-9). This isn't sour grapes or nitpicking or anything—I like what you've done—but is there a reason to have two levels of lists with duplicate material? Is this a temporary arrangement? Just wondering.... -Sewing - talk 18:20, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yi Joseon???[edit]

it is true even in korea Joseon is sometimes referred to as yi Joseon, but then again, it is influenced by japanese colonial rule period. it is proper to use Joseon (politically correct), it is just like some older Koreans use japanese loan words such as tamanegi for onions (instead yangpa in korean), takuan for pickled radish (danmuji in korean), kopu for cup (just keop or cup in korean), toraku for truck (in korean Treok) etc and visviva, you say it was published in 1983? its VERY out of date, there has been several reforms in korea over spelling of names, proper definitions etc back in 80's, koreans used to call salad as sarada, now it is known as simply salad BTW are u a native speaker of korean? 139.80.123.40 13:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for thanking[edit]

Thanks for thanking me regarding the Language attrition article. I really appreciated that. Yeah, it's incomplete. Needs a lot of work. And it's only my take on some of the literature. It would to have more input, more examples, and so on and so on...

Thanks for the encouragement. And thank you for the awesome job you do. Tortfeasor 06:37, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, can you check the new article chuinamul? Badagnani 22:37, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jelly[edit]

I'd like to make articles on acorn jelly (dotori muk) and mung bean jelly (forgot the name). Could you give me the romanization and hangul/hanja so I can get started? Badagnani 06:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hangul: 도토리묵, no hanja, RR: dotorimuk, McC-Rsr: tot'ori muk, Yale: totholi muk
Wikipeditor 11:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I've made articles for dotorimuk and nokdumuk. Could you please look in and verify that they're accurate? I don't know much more than that the mung bean kind is served with soy sauce. One more thing: a Google search shows that the mung bean variety is called cheongpo muk (没器宫 / 没器宫 / 踌滴宫). Which is more accurate? Badagnani 23:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see that there's also a version called hwangpomuk (maybe made from yellow mung beans). Do you know what this is? Badagnani 23:56, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And another called memilmuk (a jelly made from buckwheat). Badagnani 23:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One more question: is it correct to write these names without a space (i.e. "dotorimuk" instead of "dotori muk")? Badagnani 23:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! -- so the cheongpo and hwangpo muks are Sino-Korean, from hanja pronunciations, I guess. Any idea what the hanja are? Of course, "hwang" is yellow but I don't know what "cheong" and "po" would be. Badagnani 06:44, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've made articles for hwangpomuk, dotorimuk, nokdumuk, and memilmuk -- could you check them? I can't figure out the second hanja for hwangpomuk; any ideas?

I am thinking hwangpomuk is likely yellow not due to its being made from "yellow mung beans" (if there is such a thing) but from its being seasoned/colored by turmeric or some other yellow coloring. Could you help determine the veracity of this? Badagnani 07:27, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing: some of the foods are described with the modifier "-muchim," such as memilmuk and hwangpomuk. Do you think this is worth describing in the articles? Badagnani 07:36, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent additions to all four articles, and good job finding the hanja to cheongpomuk -- even my Korean Ph.D. candidate friend didn't know that. (Come to think of it, she didn't even know the hanja to hwangpomuk, which is claimed to be a food from her home province of north Cholla-do.) Question: is memilmuk, like soba noodles, brown in color? It appears so from the photo. If so, I'd like to add that to the article. Badagnani 09:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should I add "froth" as an alternate meaning for the Chinese character for "po"? Right now it says it means "bubbles" or "suds." Seems to me "froth" is a closely related word to these. Badagnani 09:10, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He seems to have trouble typing in English. Do you think you could communicate with him in Korean and help him get acquainted with the site? --Shultz IV 07:13, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Shultz IV,
Generally it isn't a good idea to edit another user's user page (granted, he did it to you first). Also, do you have any basis for assuming that Groval-land is actually a native speaker of Korean? I hadn't notice him making that declaration. There are people of other nationalities who live in South Korea, although not many. I really think it would be best if you revert your own edits to his page, although of course that's up to you.
I think I've blown my chance at rapport with Groval-land, so will generally be keeping my distance unless serious issues arise, which I rather hope they don't. (For the record, my own conversational Korean also leaves much to be desired). He does seem like an interesting guy, although his contributions thus far have been problematic.
Cheers, -- Visviva 12:46, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know why he doesn't type Korean thus far yet, however this is the English WP and therefore, he might think it's not OK to converse in Korean here and may have therefore even gotten an account on the Korean Wikipedia. I guess if he doesn't approve of my edits to his userpage, he can revert it if he wishes.
Here's evidence that he may be a resettled North Korean defector (like Gang Cheol-hwan.) --Shultz IV 12:57, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, is there a literal meaning for "nurungji" and are there hanja? Also, does chwinamul look okay? BTW, I looked at that Groval-land page and I think it is a hoax. Thanks, Badagnani 09:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like an old work in progress of yours that you never finished, organizing Korean family names by popularity rather than jamo order. It was recently put up for deletion as "listcruft" (an understandable assumption if someone didn't know that there is a definite and rather small number of Korean names). I left the prod template on the article but changed the reasoning, since it looks like you abandoned it and it probably shouldn't be in the main space anyway. — AKADriver 15:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

can you add the hangul for this article?--Dangerous-Boy 23:59, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Korean notice board[edit]

How did you go about creating the Korean notice board? I wanted to make one for Hindu related topics but the current one is very inefficient and stressful to edit.--Dangerous-Boy 07:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

you've obviously never been to Category:Hinduism and Category:Hindu mythology. They are huge! -_^--Dangerous-Boy 07:42, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to Shinkansen article.[edit]

Hey Visviva. Could you look at the discussion at the Shinkansen article? I know that you dislike Japanese POV articles. I disagree with the fact that an article for bullet trains is named Shinkansen just because Japan was the first to pioneer the bullet train market. I've never heard of the word in my life. None of my friends call the bullet trains Shinkansen. Thanks (Wikimachine 15:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Images[edit]

I hope I'm not being a too big burden on your time and thanks for your comments and edits, they are always very helpful. I expanded the Crown of Silla article last week or so and I added images there too, under the fair use tag. I looked at other crowns with pictures, like this one: [4], and so I figured I could use the fair use tag pretty indiscriminately. Which is why there are images for the Buddhist sculptures too now (b/c I figured a 3-dimensional sculpture was analgous to a 3-dimensional crown in the fact they are ancient 3-d artifacts with expired copy rights). But, I don't want to do anything that isn't kosher and I would defer to your expert opinion. (And I could start deleting the images ASAP if they aren't in line with Wikipedia or legal guidelines.) If you wouldn't mind, let me know what you think? And, any thing else you may have noticed that could need improvement I would be happy to hear from you whenever you have a moment. Thanks! Tortfeasor 17:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We have a Hinduism in China and even Hinduism in Japan, but no south korea. I was wondering if South Korea had any Hindu influence or if any gods transferred from hinduism through buddhism.--Dangerous-Boy 09:59, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I kind of meant that has a request for the article.--Dangerous-Boy 18:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disappearing Entries[edit]

Hi, Visviva: Maybe You can help me (I find that using most of the Wik help pages is just about senseless or extremely tme-consuming). A few of my entries on Wik(en) and Wik(de)have disappeared completely. There is no record of them in my own "my contributions" list. How and why is this? -Kim


Edit request[edit]

Hello Visviva: Could you adjust the history of Korea well in the balance? It is a timetable of Korea that I understand. If you agree, could you reflect this timetable? (Please teach if I have made a mistake. )

Continuance of history[edit]

To explain the continuance of the history of South Korea, this content is added.

  • 1. Japan invaded South Korea.
  • 2. Ming Dynasty supported South Korea, and defended Korea.
  • 3. Therefore, When Ming Dynasty fought against Qing Dynasty, Korea supported

Ming Dynasty.

  • 4. Therefore, Korea was invaded about Qing Dynasty. And, Korea was controlled

by Qing Dynasty.

renounced any claims to Korea.

  • 7. Japan began the control of South Korea.
  • 8. Emperor Gwangmu, proclaims the Korean Empire. And, he resisted Japan in

cooperation with Russia.

  • 9. As a result of Russo-Japanese War, Russia agreed to leaving from a Korea.
  • 10. Elder statesman Ito-Hirobumi in Japan was assassinated by the Korean. As a

result, Korea has weakened more and more.

  • 11. Cabinet in Korea signed Japan-Korea Annexation Treaty.


Edit based on anti-Japanese sentiment[edit]

South Koreans value pleasure that denounces Japan more than facts of the history.  By Carter J Eckert professor at the Harvard University

The Japanese occupation, while bringing modern infrastructure to the peninsular nation (mainly to encourage Japanese industrial exploitation), was considered by many in Korea and around the world to be brutal and led many Koreans to resist

"brutal" There is no article on North Korea and Syngman Rhee that kills the Korean more than a Japanese army. Did they elegantly kill the Korean?

"around the world" doesn't have the source. The Carter J Eckert professor at the Harvard University has not commented, "brutal" on the colonialization of Japan.

"many Koreans to resist," There was a Korean who did independence movement. However, there were a lot of Koreans who promoted the Japan-South Korea amalgamation, too. (See also Iljinhoe)

"Tens of thousands of men were conscripted into Japan's military, while up to 200,000 women were used as forced laborers and sex slaves, often called "comfort women".

Please distinguish the woman worker (挺身隊) and the comfort woman. (慰安婦) August, 1944. The light work in a military factory was obligated to the woman from 12 to less than 40 years.

  • 女子挺身勤労令(昭和19年勅令第519号)[5]
  • 女子挺身隊制度強化方策要綱[6] As a result, 201,487 South Korean women became workers. (Comfort woman is not included. ) Her work was manufacturing of the parachute and the service uniform.

"About 60,000 Koreans working under harsh conditions in Japanese mines are known to have died between 1939 and 1945,"

This is a Korean worker who doesn't mediate by Japanese Government. Content of law executed in 1939 "朝鮮工場労務者内地移住斡旋ニ関スル件" Source by Asian history material center [7](Reference code: C01001832500)

  • 1. Korean labor period is within in five years.
  • 2. Korean labor's technological level must improve.
  • 3. The employer and Japanese Government bear traveling expenses of the worker.
  • 4. Obtain the police chief's permission when you hire a worker.

"and an unknown number of people were forced to become samples for Japanese biological experiments conducted by Unit 731."

Unit731 is being investigated. Unit731 maltreated Chinese and the Russian. However, why does the South Korean become a victim? At this time, the South Korean was the Japanese people. --Kamosuke 19:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for noticing[edit]

I wasn't expecting anyone to thanks me for my contribution within hours of editing a few stubs I tought no one cared about. So thanks!!
And I can now proudly say there are no more stubs associated with Busan Subway.

It probably me you've been seeing around 국제교류교육원; the only canadian student taking day classes during the past 6 months. But that's over, I'm heading back home next week.

By the way I want to let you know I've proposed to merge Dabotap and Seokgatap. I've explained my reason: Discuss. You're very welcome to comment on it.

Luccas; May 31, 2006

Revert on the Romanization of currency unit[edit]

Hi,

I will revert your change on the Romanization of the historical Korean currency units. A rule of thumb is to use the Romanization method of the time. --Chochopk 04:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poll regarding the name of a basin[edit]

I really feal bad that you were not notified regarding the Dokdo (Liancourt Rocks) poll. I appologize for that.

And so, I felt it necessary to let you know about yet another poll just started, for Tsushima Basin/Ulleung Basin. Please see Talk:Tsushima Basin. This is an "either/or" poll, and will decide the name of the article, between "Tsushima Basin" and "Ulleung Basin".

This poll will continue until 08:57, 19 June 2006. And voting is restricted to users with at least 100 previous edits & one-month history. Please let me know if we should post a notice for this poll in Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Korean) or another related page. Or please go ahead and post it there. Thank you.--Endroit 15:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For some reason, this was the only Goryeo king to not already have his own page -- but the most interesting to me for his adoption of aak. Can you check this article over with your sources and expert eye? Badagnani 09:29, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hanja question[edit]

Hi -- for the daegeum flute I'm told that the correct hanja is 大笒 -- and not 大琴, which also appears. An old, authoritative Korean music book I just looked at has 大笒 but I find 大琴 on the Internet as well. Is there any way to find out what the "real" spelling is? If 大笒 is the "real" spelling but people also use 大琴, does that mean we should list 大琴 as an alternate spelling? Badagnani 09:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, both the 국립국어원's 표준국어대사전[8] and 민중서림's 엣센스한독사전 (1982 edition, 2002 print) give 大笒. Perhaps 琴 is a mistake stemming from the 해금(奚琴)? The wiktionary says 琴 may also “musical instrument”, but none of the other meanings listed would work. Wikipeditor 11:42, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation process[edit]

I am the mediator for the case. I hope to focus all discussion regarding the articles involved on that page. Could all concerned parties attend? Thank you. -- Evanx(tag?) 19:47, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimachine[edit]

Hey Visviva! I will be restricted from internet connection (thus Wikipedia) most of the time, and I will not be able to respond to many of the arguments that I had already exposed myself to. I discussed much with you, and I think you are a very experienced Wikipedian.

So, on my talk page, I left a list of Wikipedians whom people might contact in place of me. Such people might include User talk:Objectman and many other JPOV advocates.

Also, if you happen to scroll over arguments that I used to continue, and the JPOV Wikipedians' comebacks aren't answered, you could answer them for me -that is, if you happen to know about the subject.

Thanks for doing this favor! (Wikimachine 21:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]


Today I found out that I am availed internet access, so I am not gone from Wikipedia. Thanks anyways. (Wikimachine 14:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC))[reply]