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Roc Me Out

Could be the third/fourth single. Calvin Watch n' Learn 23:23, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

And what about this. I really want TTT to be the next one, Kanye, Jay, Riri = Crazy ! :D — Tomica1111Question Existing? 01:50, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah. I think these are the third and fourth singles. I hope Where Have You Been gets a single release. It will do well, it's basically We Found Love Part 2. lol. Calvin Watch n' Learn 04:38, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

My dear friend,

Tomica, you are for sure one of the most important people to me here on Wikipedia! It doesn't matter to me how good at editing you are, it matters to me how nice and (especially) respectful you are! Please stay that way, and don't ever let anything get to your head, Tomica! Your friend, --Discographer (talk) 21:19, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Do you...

want to colloberate with me on DSTM? don't feel pressured to say yes, because i know you are already doing a lot on here. i just think that since it is my first time trying to majorly edit an article, it would be better to have someone help me first. Remember, you don't have to say yes. BenTalkThatTalk2me 21:44, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

OMG Ben ! Hahaaha ... telepathy exists really! In like 10 minutes I would write the same to you. Yeah, sure. I saw that some people complained about what are you doing here and I really think to start some work, so I am here to help you. We are starting "Don't Stop the Music" very very soon :) ! I will now search for some sources, all the sources that you have, please put here here. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 21:47, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Lol, I was just about to get offline but you replied fast!!! Will do. There are no sources in the impact section, so i would like to do that if you don't mind. I can't wait to start tomorrow!!! BenTalkThatTalk2me 21:52, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Sure, just, the article looks pretty awful. A lot of information will be cut, cause there are not sources and there are some awful things. Every source that you find, please paste in my sandbox. We gonna try to maximize the source use. And don't worry, you can work on which section you like ;) ! — Tomica1111Question Existing? 21:55, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok:). i have a big test to study for tonight, so i will start tomorrow. btw i have school so i will edit only in the afternoon or on weekends. and one more thing: when you say you saw people complaining, were you talking about the stuff on my talk page or is there more i don't know about? BenTalkThatTalk2me 21:58, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Sure, the school is important I understand you. And definitely your talk page :) ! Don't worry, it will be fine. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 22:03, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! I really look foward to it! BenTalkThatTalk2me 22:05, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Sorry Ben, but those sources that you placed in my sandbox are unreliable on Wikipedia. For further information please see Wikipedia:Reliable sourcesTomica1111Question Existing? 01:11, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok. BenTalkThatTalk2me 01:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Unfaithful

Here is the reference for the topping of Canadian cahrt from Jam!: "Nielsen Canadian Singles Chart August 26, 2006". Jam!. 10 (32). Canadian Online Explorer: 20–22. 2006-08-30..

Hope this helps. — Legolas (talk2me) 07:09, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Lego :) ! — Tomica1111Question Existing? 11:17, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Someone Like You

Ok, thank you. I'll add the information in the article very soon. I've stopped editing it for a while and I'm pretty sure there are lots of bad sources and additions in the article. Anyway, thank you. My love is love (talk) 13:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

I've never reviewed an article and I think I'll never review one. I don't like reviewing :D My love is love (talk) 13:35, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
And what's that? My love is love (talk) 13:39, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Nice. It will save you from unwelcome headaches. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:40, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
OK. But I'm not participating. My love is love (talk) 13:49, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
One more question about the DYK of "Unfaithful"; when you nominated the fact for DYK did you also add the fact in the Template:Did you know nominations or just made a Template:Did you know nominations/Unfaithful (song)? I'm asking you because I've nominated a fact from "Schoolin' Life" in December and no one reviews it. I'm afraid that I've made some mistakes while I was nominating it, because I didn't add the fact in the Template:Did you know nominations. My love is love (talk) 14:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
And can I add the nomination Template:Did you know nominations/Schoolin' Life now in the December 26th part on the Template:Did you know nominations (because it was created on that date), or you don't know that? My love is love (talk) 14:10, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok thank you. My love is love (talk) 14:26, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

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Tom, I hope you know that this lead is super long for a barely 50 Kbs article. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:55, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

"Halo" is 90 Kbs and yet, I was told the lead is too long. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:56, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I trimmed it. :) — Tomica1111Question Existing? 11:03, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Very good. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:30, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Btw check your FB :) !— Tomica1111Question Existing? 11:31, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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hey

The "...charts.com" sources have the wrong work=, publisher= and title= parameter names on Unfaithful (song). Calvin Watch n' Learn 19:19, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Actually no, they don't. The work, publisher and title are automatically put on the reference, since is used the {{singlechart}} in the chart table. So, its obvious they are not wrong.— Tomica1111Question Existing? 19:30, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Hmm okay. ARIA, for example, isn't apart of australiancharts.com or Hung Medien. Calvin Watch n' Learn 19:39, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
As I said, its probably right. Since User:JohnfromPickney created the table, you can ask him for further details. I am satisfied with my work on both "Unfaithful" and "Hate That I Love You", they were in catastrophic situation. :S — Tomica1111Question Existing? 19:47, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Lol, yeah they were. Calvin Watch n' Learn 20:00, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello!

I'm fine! And yes, I'm moving the request. :) - Saulo Talk to Me 22:39, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

The GAR

I had to remove this. Read what I wrote and ask me if you are in doubt. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:12, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Mmmm okay. Sorry, I am new in this you know, so I don't have an idea :) !— Tomica1111Question Existing? 10:54, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

A pain

This article is a pain. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Mmmm, it was in a pretty bad condition when I last saw it, but it was c/e yesterday right? What is now? — Tomica1111Question Existing? 11:02, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Nothing great. :( Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:08, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Mmmm, well I don't know what advice to give you here. But for sure, it doesn't have point listing at GOCE again. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 11:11, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I hate Jay-Z so much that I am feeling lazy to fix it. I am trying nevertheless. :P Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:13, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Hahah, to be frank, deep inside me I knew that was the reason. LOL, why do you hate on him so much? I mean he looks like a pig, but is so powerful rapper and multimillionaire. Btw have you seen what has 50 done?! He is sick hah ! :D — Tomica1111Question Existing? 11:19, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate him. :D I can't access the website. :( Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:21, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I saw it. He made those pics? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I used to hate Chris, for everything he has done to Rihanna, but after F.A.M.E, there are actually few songs that make me feel okay with him. Haha yeah 50 Cent, made this. Obviously he also hates Jay-Z. xD — Tomica1111Question Existing? 11:26, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I can understand he hates Jay-Z but he is using an inoffensive baby to show his contempt. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:29, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, it was bad from his side. That baby is innocent. Now you also have 50, I shouldn't have shown you this :P !— Tomica1111Question Existing? 11:30, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Lol. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:33, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Btw, the "We Found Love" Flo Rida remix, its official :). Auuf it's freakin' great ! — Tomica1111Question Existing? 11:39, 14 January 2012 (UTC) :)
It's official? But why is she pushing WFL? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:42, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, here you go. I don't know probably because it runs its 9 week on the Hot 100, maybe she wants to make some other history :). But I doubt it will be released to iTunes. I think its just an ordinary remix. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 11:45, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Ordinary? Lol, it's good, in fact very good. I think she should promoted YDO more rather than WFL. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:48, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
By ordinary I mean just like the "S&M" remix with J. Cole. And yeah, she should, but, I don't think she will. She is releasing "Talk That Talk", with your favorite Jay-Z :D ! hahah — Tomica1111Question Existing? 13:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
So YDO is not really a hit? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:24, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I think its a hit. But its obvious that the stupid Def Jam Recordings don't think that. To be honest, I think that her label sometimes fucks up ! Maybe that label is the actual reason she can't hit a number one album in the US. I think that sometimes she should just leave and go to Columbia or Interscope. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 13:26, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
It's nothing to do with Def Jam Tomica. If it was, she wouldn't have had 11 #1s. Calvin Watch n' Learn 13:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Columbia? Are you mad? Don't you see what is happening to Beyonce? Columbia is capitalizing on Adele. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:32, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Well I don't know, but to be honest, its Rihanna. She has 11 number one on the Hot 100, but she can't have a 1 on Billboard 200. Why the label released Talk That Talk in same week with Nikelback and Mary J. To be honest it was funny then, because Bubble topped xD. Nevermind, for 4, well maybe there is a Beyonce sub-section management of Columbia. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 13:47, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Tom, you are indirectly contradicting yourself. Do you mean Nikelback and Mary J. Bligge are threats for Rihanna even though she has 11 number one singles? If there was a subsection for 4, there would at least be an iTunes banner when the deluxe edition of the album was released to iTunes on January 2, 2012. As far as I know there are banners for everything Rihanna releases Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:50, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, to be honest, I didn't know who was Mary J. until I heard that she is releasing in same week as RiRi. And Nikelback I have heard them as a name. Don't think that they are treats, but I can't understand why her albums can't hit 1 in US. The management of Def Jam, should certainly create a strategy for that, and not just to push album through album. And LOL really it was re-released? Anyway banners? — Tomica1111Question Existing? 13:53, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
It was available only as a physical copy at Target Stores worldwide until that date. A banner is for promotion. Rihanna cannot have a number one album because her album appeals only to youngsters most of the time. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 14:01, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
What about Perry's Teenage Dream. It has sold same number of copies as TTT, however it hit 1. + the theme of the album is youngster and half :)! It's Capitol that pushes Perry a LOT. See what happens with "One", they want to hit 1 on the Hot 100, but I am sorry that's not gonna happen. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 14:11, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
You do not need number one hits to sell albums. + Perry's music appeals to older ones as well. Her singles chart on the Billboard adult songs chart ans that's the evidence. To be fair, Beyonce does not need number one singles a top 10 hit to sell her albums. Added to that, she has zero pop radio support at the moment. You can verify. 4 is at 1,075,000 copies in five months with one top 20 hit, one top 30 hit and one top 80 hit. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 14:41, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Funny

How videos with sex and violence always rack up views. ("LTWYL" and "WFL"). Lol. I heard the remix, it's a bit too repetitive for my liking. At least it deals with the awkward breaks with no vocals. ;-) —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 15:37, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey Penguin. Well to be honest, the songs were hits, both of them apart of the video. And when speaking about their respective videos... to be honest, for sorry they are real! I mean, domestic violence happens all around the globe. Drugs also. I mean, I am sorry about its presence, but that's the reality! People are just connecting themselves. For example, I have a lot of friends who told me that they like "We Found Love" is a very real video, I am talking about girl friends :). And for the remix, Ahh I love it! Its great ! That Flo Rida bitch is good ! ;) — Tomica1111Question Existing? 16:29, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Tom, you called him a bitch? :P Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:30, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Lol at Jivesh/ Tomica you're right, they do touch on important matters, and I think that is the message Rihanna tries to get across in both videos. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:32, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Hahahaha, Yeah Jiv, I am trying to be fancy! :P Exactly Penguin, and I guess that his Brown is her inspiration. You know a lot from that since you wrote "LTWYL" and I read it :P ! — Tomica1111Question Existing? 17:34, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
WP, I had to ask you this. Remember how Avi was super-excited about Madonna. He wrote certain things I could not understand. Please don't laugh at me. I do not speak English as most of you. I want to know: men also have orgasm? How is that possible? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:35, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I'll give you the briefest answer I can: yes. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:36, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Lol. Are you joking? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 17:37, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
No. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:38, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I sometimes can't understand Avi a thing. But this LOL ahahahahahahah ! :) He had one when heard about the new Madonna album!? Quite awkward — Tomica1111Question Existing? 17:39, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Not surprised: first album in years + his idol = ... —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:41, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
When he sees this he will cut my head xD ! And I mean, the male orgasm is quite awkward :) ! — Tomica1111Question Existing? 17:43, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey

What is it with the IPs changing the genres on TTT, TTT, Cockiness, YDO? Lol. Calvin Watch n' Learn 14:34, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't fucking now. They are freaking me out! They changed the release date on "Talk That Talk" like 544544 times. They change TBA to January 11, 2012, the date that she announced xD ! — Tomica1111Question Existing? 14:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
One changed Birthday Cake from dancehall to pop, R&B, electro lol. Calvin Watch n' Learn 14:50, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, the same happened to "Talk That Talk". Can you think about it? Euro-pop? hah ! — Tomica1111Question Existing? 14:56, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Loud

These still have the wrong work and publisher parameters. Calvin Watch n' Learn 17:21, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Can't see, what is wrong?? — Tomica1111Question Existing? 17:23, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I'll use australian charts as an exmaple: |work=''australiancharts.com''|publisher=Hung Medien| Calvin Watch n' Learn 17:25, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Well nothings is wrong. You should use australiancharts.com or Australian Albums Chart. I would have used the first one, if all the works would be written by their URL name, not by full. Since in Loud we don't use the URL name of the works, we should be consistent. Nothings is wrong here. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 17:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
But that is how you are mean't to write them Tomica. Jivesh told me. australianchart.com is the name of the website, so that is what should be there. ARIA has nothing to do with it, since it's not aria.com Calvin Watch n' Learn 17:30, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Its the same practically. Why to make a big deal over this. We should be consistent. Australian Album Charts (full name) / australiancharts.com (URL name). What we use in the article? Full names. So its the first one that should be used. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 17:34, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Australian Album Charts is ARIA Tomcia! They aren't anything to do with australian-charts.com. Hung Medien publishes australian-charts.com, ARIA publishes Australian Album Charts. Calvin Watch n' Learn 17:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Are you listening to yourself? How can they can not be related? Its practically the same! And are we consistent if use the URL ? No, of course we are not. Your complaints are bizarre. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 17:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
They aren't the same company Tomica. Look on Music of the Sun, FN 32 to 36. Calvin Watch n' Learn 17:43, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I really don't like when someone points his own work. Give me other work. Plus since you are using them as an URL, you should be consistent further with all of them. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 17:53, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
How else am I mean't to show you what I mean, that is silly. They are all consistent in that article. Calvin Watch n' Learn 17:55, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Please check one of the best album articles on Wiki, The Emancipation of Mimi. Got the point? — Tomica1111Question Existing? 17:59, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm just dropping you a line to say that Legolas was correct that the review was not eligible for points. It was a sensible close, in that the article is clearly a long way from GA status, and so I'm not looking to criticise your review. However, as a short quick-fail, it is not eligible for points in the WikiCup. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks, J Milburn (talk) 22:13, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Replied on my talk page. J Milburn (talk) 21:46, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

re: Lost in the World

Concerning the GA review of Lost in the World; I believe I have addressed these issues, if not instruct me further. Bruce Campbell (talk) 19:55, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Why you didn't put done after every sentence/concern of mine, it would be easier to check. Okay, however, the prose has improved a bit, but it can be even better. And for the references, I am not satisfied, there are still some issues. The additional references comments should help. Don't worry, you have 6 days left. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 20:11, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Forget it, just fail the article. Bruce Campbell (talk) 20:29, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Tomica. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/S&M (song)/archive5.
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Calvin Watch n' Learn 15:06, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Responded now. Not satisfied. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 15:07, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't see how. I changed them. Calvin Watch n' Learn 15:11, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Loud

Do you want to make Loud an FA? Calvin Watch n' Learn 00:19, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

I was about to ask you the same. Sure, I am into it. It has good potential to become a FA. Plus is good for both of us, since we are in the WikiCup and of course for the project. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 00:21, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
Yep yep. It's not FA status at all yet lol. Calvin Watch n' Learn 00:25, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
Right, as I said it has the potential to become. However, it needs some very good copy-editing. I think we should contact a copy-editor that has experience when comes to c/e FA's. However, hopefully someone who takes requests, and quite big ones as Loud. LoL. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 00:27, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
If you want to use a c/e, then it better be the best, because otherwise, people will just moan about how you shouldn't use copy-editors and you should do it yourself. Calvin Watch n' Learn 00:29, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
Definitely. Gotta be the best. I like how "Halo" looks. Jivesh has done great job on the article and its copy-editors polished it. I think we should contact some of them. As I remember, they commented on Halo's FAC. Also, everybody seems satisfied of the article. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 00:31, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah. I've been criticised for using copy-editors on S&M. That's why if you want to use it, it needs to be the best. Calvin Watch n' Learn 00:33, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi :) I was wondering as to when you were intending on reviewing the above article (regarding GA)? Because I was also going to work on About a Girl and I have Whiplash as a GAN too. Kind regards, Till I Go Home (talk) 10:39, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey Till I Go Home. I will start the review late tonight (I am at CET + 1 time zone). Don't worry, when I finish the whole review you will have 7 days to fix the issues. I read the lead and I am very satisfied with it. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 15:25, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

hey

Could you find S&M release dates please? Calvin Watch n' Learn 15:20, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Sure. But I will do it later. I am bit of tired, and I am going to nap now. Will do that later tonight. — Tomica1111Question Existing? 15:25, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

RE

Hi Tommica. Remember when I spoke on Aaron's page about my new computer? Well, after it's install, the internet started messing up. I have been accessing the internet on my phone, which will let me view Wikipedia, but not edit. Sorry for the lack of replying and working. My internet is recovered on my computer now, so everything should work. I clicked the link you sent me, and it took me to Don't Stop the Music (Rihanna song) What were you asking about? BenTalkThatTalk2me 00:32, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Very nice :) So what do you think I should work on? BenTalkThatTalk2me 00:38, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I could work on the video synthesis. I would like to show you before I put it in the article. Do i just re-direct it? BenTalkThatTalk2me 00:42, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that would work. How do I create one? Goodness, i hop i am not being a bother to you with all these questions. BenTalkThatTalk2me 00:49, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Goodnight! BenTalkThatTalk2me 00:55, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

hey

Lol at how big this is. Aaron You Da One 16:48, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey, do you have Rated R's album booklet please? Aaron You Da One 19:13, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah I do. — Tomica (talk) 20:05, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Could you add the Credits and personnel to Stupid in Love please? Aaron You Da One 20:19, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Sure I will, just to finish the chart performance in "Don't Stop the Music". "Stupid in Love" is my favorite song from Rated R; never had an idea that it charted anywhere. — Tomica (talk) 20:25, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
OKay thanks. Yeah I was really surprised it charted, yet alone peaked at #7. Aaron You Da One 20:29, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I've never thought of this but Stupid in Love and Fool in Love are basically the same song, lyrical. Aaron You Da One 00:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought the same when I heard "Fool in Love". However, I like more "Stupid in Love", its more R&B, and its Ne-Yo, that man is a music masterpiece. I added the credits and personnel btw :) !— Tomica (talk) 00:33, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I do love Fool in Love. Her vocals are just so good for her. And thanks. I though Ne-Yo co-produced though? Aaron You Da One 00:37, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
He is listed as a production assistant in the booklet. — Tomica (talk) 00:40, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Ah okay. I need to do the CR tomorrow. I'm surprised TTT reviews didn't compare Fool in Love. Aaron You Da One 00:43, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Mmm I don't know. Do you think there is any chance for Rihanna to perform "Talk That Talk" on the Grammy's, apart "Princess of China"? — Tomica (talk) 00:49, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't know. I would have thought You Da One was the more likely choice. I can't see Jay-Z doing live promo atm. Aaron You Da One 00:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
She totally forgot that has a single called "You Da One" xD ! — Tomica (talk) 00:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
It's a shame. It's a great song with a great video. Live promo was needed though. Not WFL level. Aaron You Da One 01:04, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

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WP:FLC

You need to state in your nominations, whether the article is a part of WikiCup 2012 or not. I know the list won't be, but still they ask us to mention it. Just notifying you. :) — Legolas (talk2me) 04:29, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Hey :-) When you aren't busy, can you please leave comments here? Thanks, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 23:45, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Sure. I will :). Probably tomorrow. I barely can see now xD! And thanks for the support again. — Tomica (talk) 23:47, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks :-) And you're welcome, gotta give credit where it's due ;-) Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 23:49, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

RE: Hi

Hi, thank you for reviewing "Footprints", I added ALT text to "Unfaithful". Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 20:08, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank You :) ! — Tomica (talk) 20:36, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey

Could you help me find a source for Rihanna's "Answer". It's a song which didn't make TTT. Aaron You Da One 13:09, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Sure I will try later. If I find something, I will tell you. — Tomica (talk) 14:19, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
I've got one for Answer now. Btw, I think Russian Roulette was originally going to be called Suicide? Aaron You Da One 14:24, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank You...

*****************The Beyoncé Knowles WikiProject Thanks You*****************
I, Jivesh, thank you wholeheartedly for your much small edits here and there on "Halo". Your kind words helped me even more (morally). May God bless both you and the day I came across a kind and helpful person like you on Wikipedia.

-> Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:43, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: RIhanna

You know that I've wanted to work on Rihanna for a very long time. This is not very nice. Aaron You Da One 19:43, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

And you also know that I wanted the same. I put it on peer review, and I think that now is the time to start. — Tomica (talk) 19:44, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
No Tomica, I've wanted to do that since June last year. That's not good faith at all. You know why I haven't started it either. Aaron You Da One 19:45, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't care Calvin. You crushed that good faith thousand times. You was aware that I put the article on peer review and was about to going and work on it. I really think its fair. Plus, I knew that you were about to work on Rihanna, after I put it for peer review. — Tomica (talk) 19:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I said to you that I was doing it, and you said you only listed it for a peer review and you had no intention of improving it, so don't lie. Aaron You Da One 19:52, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Haha. OMG! Are you accusing me? Calvin, please calm yourself down, and then we can talk, because you are getting on my nerves and I can ask for someone to block you. But really... I put it for PR, but I will not work on it? That's creepy... — Tomica (talk) 19:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
You know I wanted to do her bio. Don't you think I would have done it by now if I thought the time was right? And please, you think you can get me blocked for no reason? You knew I wanted to do that article, and you are doing purely out of spite. And you said to me that you wasn't going to promote it, you just listed it for a PR. I'm sorry, but I'm doing it, and it's very malicious and horrible of you to do this. I thought you was better than that. Aaron You Da One 19:57, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah I also thought you are better and changing, but I was wrong, again for the 43543 time. And what you gonna do? Revert all my edits? And I am gonna be stupid and good again, and ask you If you want to do it together? You alone, well that is not impossible, cause I also want and I will work on it.— Tomica (talk) 20:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I am doing it. You know that I've planned on doing it literally months and months and months. What happened to you doing Umbrella? Re-doing What's My Name? Are you not doing those now then? Aaron You Da One 20:02, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I will do "Unfaithful" first then the others. And sorry to say, but you are not doing it alone. If you want you can collaborate with me, or go in some policy and report me that I was guilty, which obvious I am not. I also wanted to work on it and understood that you wanted to work on it, after I nominated for Peer Review. On my description on the PR clearly says why I am nominating it.— Tomica (talk) 20:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Okay. I'll work with you on it then. There is no other option. But I intend on making it an FA by myself afterwards. I still think it is too early to do it though. Three of her albums are still far below GA level, and those sections on her bio are huge. Aaron You Da One 20:09, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't think its early. Its shame that Rihanna is not a GA. Look at Katy Perry, she doesn't have a single GA, but her biography is good one. Plus, the sections need just the main information from the albums, that they contain. — Tomica (talk) 20:11, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I think it's too early. For instance, in her first bio section, the second and third paragraphs can be replaced with the Background section of Music of the Sun, which is already GA prose. By doing the albums first, info can be easily transferred to Rihanna. Aaron You Da One 20:13, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so. It's the same, If we make a good prose in the article, then it can be transferred in the album articles. — Tomica (talk) 20:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I just think it would be easier to do the albums first, it makes it easier. And if you had of said that you would do it joint in the first place, this entire thread could have been avoided, as it really put my back up when you did that. You put that banner on there for the wrong reasons. I just needed to get that off of my chest before we proceed. I'll forget about it now. Aaron You Da One 20:18, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Editing

This isn't going to work unless we communicate. Aaron You Da One 20:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Mhm. Probably. I see you c/e the paragraph from Music of the Sun. It looks okay, however the quotes can be trimmed a little bit. And I will use the format ex. April 21, 2001, for the references since it will be easier at FAC. Those reviewers think that that is the best formatting. — Tomica (talk) 20:38, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
The lead is best to be done last. I find that is the best way, as it is a summary of what the body is, and the body hasn't been re-written. Okay, you can change all the dates then. I'll check the work and publisher fields. This is not to be rushed. If it takes a few months, it takes a few months. Aaron You Da One 20:41, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Okay. Let me format the references from the first section and then made some fixes If you think that there should be done. I am saying this, because I don't want to be edit-conflicted, you also probably hate that. — Tomica (talk) 20:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah that annoys me. I hope this article brings about change for us, because it is long overdue. The second and third paragraphs references are absolutely fine, I had a very thorough reviewer for Music of the Sun. It's just the dates which need changing. Aaron You Da One 20:44, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Sure I will just change the dates, and format the references from the first paragraph. Some prose tweaks are there for sure. — Tomica (talk) 20:46, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Okay. And we aren't enlisting copy-editors for this, as they more often than not make it worse. We will overlook everything ourselves. Aaron You Da One 20:49, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, okay, no problem. There are a lot of fan crufty stuff. They should be removed. — Tomica (talk) 20:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Can we do one section at a time? I think that would be best. Not moving on until that section has been looked over several times. Aaron You Da One 20:52, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Sounds fine. Look what I found fan crufty in the first section... During her parents' marriage, she suffered from excruciating headaches leading doctors to think she had a brain tumor and underwent several CAT scans from the age of eight until her parents separated.[15] She grew up in a modest three-bed bungalow in Bridgetown and would sell clothes with her father on a street stall.[16]Tomica (talk) 20:55, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
LOOL. What were the sources? Aaron You Da One 20:57, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
www.medindia.net for the tumor stuff, www.thesun.co.uk (which is reliable) for where she lived ... There is a lot of shit :S ! — Tomica (talk) 20:59, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

hahaha. Aaron You Da One 21:08, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Rihanna's father was so lady's man xD ! And made a lot of kids too. Haha. I c/e it and fixed references. You can give it a try now.— Tomica (talk) 21:16, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

The Best Video of the Year Goes to...

... Watch it. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 07:58, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Wait, it has competition. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 08:02, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Did I just see a birthday cake? And he is even blowing his candles. :P Jivesh1205 (Talk) 08:04, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I am slayed. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 08:05, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
OMG! The first two are awful, you know its horrible. And about the second two... mmm I am also slayed, the fourth one is actually steamy ! Arrhhh :D — Tomica (talk) 09:53, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Lol. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:14, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake cake ... :) — Tomica (talk) 10:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
And it's not even my birthday. Lol, all this drama for a birthday cake. :P Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:23, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

RE: Rehab

Hi Tomica,

Sorry its taken long to respond. I've checked the liner notes with a friend of mine. I don't think Esmeé has sampled "Rehab" on her album Outta Here. — Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 21:49, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem Lil. Legolas already told me that is not sampled. How are you? When you gonna be back on Wikipedia actively? — Tomica (talk) 22:02, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 January newsletter

WikiCup 2012 is off to a flying start. At the time of writing, we have 112 contestants; comparable to last year, but slightly fewer than 2010. Signups will remain open for another week, after which time they will be closed for this year. Our currrent far-away leader is Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions), due mostly to his work on a slew of good articles about The X-Files; there remain many such articles waiting to be reviewed at good article candidates. Second place is currently held by Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions), whose points come mostly from good articles about television episodes, although good article reviews, did you knows and an article about a baroness round out the score. In third place is Mauritius Jivesh boodhun (submissions), who has scored 200 points for his work on a single featured article, as well as points for work on others, mostly in the area of pop music. In all, nine users have 100 or more points. However, at the other end of the scale, there are still dozens of participants who are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly!

The 64 highest scoring participants will advance to round 2 in a month's time. There, they will be split into eight random groups of eight. The score needed to reach the next round is not at all clear; last year, 8 points guaranteed a place. The year before, 20.

A few participants and their work warrant a mention for achieving "firsts" in this competition.

  • Florida 12george1 (submissions) was the first to score, with his good article review of Illinois v. McArthur.
  • Florida 12george1 (submissions) was also the first to score points for an article, thanks to his work on Hurricane Debby (1982)- now a good article. Tropical storms have featured heavily in the Cup, and good articles currently have a relatively fast turnaround time for reviews.
  • Russia Sp33dyphil (submissions) was the first to score points for a did you know, with Russian submarine K-114 Tula. Military history is another subject which has seen a lot of Cup activity.
  • Russia Sp33dyphil (submissions) is also the first person to successfully claim bonus points. Terminator 2: Judgment Day is now a good article, and was eligible for bonus points because the subject was covered on more than 20 other Wikipedias at the start of the competition. It is fantastic to see bonus points being claimed so early!
  • Byzantine Empire Speciate (submissions) was the first to score points for an In the News entry, with Paedophryne amauensis. The lead image from the article was also used on the main page for a time, and it's certainly eye-catching!
  • Mauritius Jivesh boodhun (submissions) was the first to score points for a featured article, and is, at the moment, the only competitor to claim for one. The article, "Halo" (Beyoncé Knowles song), was also worth double points because of its wide coverage. While this is an article that Jivesh and others have worked on for some time, it is undeniable that he has put considerable work into it this year, pushing it over the edge.

We are yet to see any featured lists, featured topics or good topics, but this is unsurprising; firstly, the nomination processes with each of these can take some time, and, secondly, it can take a considerable amount of time to work content to this level. In a similar vein, we have seen only one featured article. The requirement that content must have been worked on this year to be eligible means that we did not expect to see these at the start of the competition. No points have been claimed for featured portals or pictures, but these are not content types which are often claimed; the former has never made a big impact on the WikiCup, while the latter has not done so since 2009's competition.

A quick rules clarification before the regular notices: If you are concerned that another user is claiming points inappropriately, please contact a judge to take a look at the article. Competitors policing one another can create a bad atmosphere, and may lead to inconsistencies and mistakes. Rest assured that we, the judges, are making an effort to check submissions, but it is possible that we will miss something. On a loosely related note: If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 23:55, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

There you go

There you go :)...

Care to make it tit for tat? hahah. Orane (talk) 06:54, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Hey Orane. Thanks you a lot for your comments. I really improved the article's prose regarding them. However, I know I should work on the Reception and accolades section. Anyway thanks. And about the 21 peer review, the prose is on so good level so I don't have what to comment, I just wait for you to nominate it for FA and you got my support ;) ! — Tomica (talk) 00:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey...

I am proud of you. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

^_^ Thanks. I will start doing the notes later today or tomorrow. — Tomica (talk) 10:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Good. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Lol, don't worry about this. As long as people are shitting on singing competitions to the point of winning X-Factor while singing htis, I am totally fine with it. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:15, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
But sometimes American people really disappoint me. I mean its right they gave my Rihanna 11 number ones and I respect that. But I also wanted "CKB" to become #1, or Listen, because they are very strong songs for me. I wish I have the vocal range to sing "Listen" hah, but seriously! — Tomica (talk) 10:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
I understand Tom but music taste in the US is changing and it's very sad. :( Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:22, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
I think I am dying when I LISTEN to this ... — Tomica (talk) 10:24, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
It was during her auditions. She also won the finals, singing the same song. Curse Simon Cowell for saying that Beyonce can't sing. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:26, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
I know. I just prefer this version of Amaro, cause its more natural, no make-up, style or something. Just good voice :)! — Tomica (talk) 10:29, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
I agree. I am slayed. I am so happy that Beyonce took it. Tedder practically murdered it. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:31, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
MMmm don't like it at all. "Halo" is a great one, I mean sang by Beyonce. — Tomica (talk) 10:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
But wait, why the hell was that third verse cut? :(((( Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Dunno :) ! And I watch the "Listen" video, and I was reminded of something. Do you remember when pictures of Beyonce having so WHITE tan? She was like Swedish xD! Whiter than me... and I have tan like white cheese xD ! What happened back then?— Tomica (talk) 11:23, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Actually, it was lights and camera effects. And you know, Beyonce is not really dark. Her mom is white. :) Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:30, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
I know, she is mixed, the same as Rihanna. Her father is of Irish origin. But that were so light pictures :) ! — Tomica (talk) 11:32, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Hey can you please help me get my user page like yours? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:14, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Definitely. Can I use one of my sandboxes, create it there and tell me if you like it?— Tomica (talk) 18:29, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Sure. But instead of a Sandboxes tab, I want a Stuffs tab where you can put all my gifs and the smileys. Thanks Tom. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:38, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. You are the best. :D Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:54, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Lol, the stuffs one is not working,. :P Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:07, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I am dead. :P Wait, checking FB. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Farewell

Tomica, I'm sorry to say I can't help on DSTM. Or anything. This will be my last edit, because my parents don't like me talking to "strangers" online. I am sorry, but i respect my parents. I truly wish I could help more. Farewell to you and everyone. BenTalkThatTalk2me 23:24, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay Ben. Farewell to you also. It was nice meeting you here and working with you a little bit. All the best my friend. — Tomica (talk) 00:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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Regarding your FLC question

  • "She became the fourth solo female to have multiple songs spend at least five weeks at number one in one calendar year."

Who were the other three? Were they Spears, Katy and Rihanna? —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

No, there are not mentioned in the source. That's a record that Adele made. — Tomica (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
I've made this slight change. You can leave an update at the FLC and tell TRM about the not mentioning in the source of the record who the other singers were. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
I like how it looks now. :) Can you see if there is some other prose issue, cause I can't really see, but The Rambling Man said it was confusing. — Tomica (talk) 17:09, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
People got pissed off because I helped you out with your last FAC and supported (even though I didn't see the problem), but I'll see. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:13, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
You can post comments how can I further fix it and I will do it. You don't have to do it directly, for not to piss other people. — Tomica (talk) 17:15, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
LOL, there's no problem for a reviewer to copy edit an article at FAC, that's all part of the FA reviewing process. It's not like I helped you a lot before you nominated it. I'll help you by directly editing, that's honest. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 17:20, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank You Penguin. You know I appreciate that. I have told you a lot of times before. — Tomica (talk) 17:21, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
WP, who was it? :O Jivesh1205 (Talk) 08:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Last time I checked, no one is obliged to contact you about editing an article. Status {talkcontribs 12:26, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

I didn't mean in that way. Maybe that was a bad expression. The point was, I really hate when somebody is making smarter (you can see his previous comment, which was right I admit), but doesn't clean up the mess around. Obviously the article is not mine — Tomica (talk) 16:51, 7 February 2012 (UTC)