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Tragic Kingdom's FAC

This is hard work, eh? Thanks for the constant attention to the article. Now "Production" is its own section and the singles subsection has been trimmed, the "Music" section looks skinny. Is there any way we could change it to look more like this? I don't know where we'd get all the quotations from though. DAMNDAMNDAMN!

I don't own the album. Is there much/anything in the liner notes?

PS. Shame about your gov. -- Escape Artist Swyer Talk Contributions 01:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Bugger. Still, it improved the article. -- Escape Artist Swyer Talk Contributions 20:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
She's taken it off the active list at WP:FAC. I'm pissed off, but know there's a lot of work to be done in the "Music" section. -- Escape Artist Swyer Talk Contributions 22:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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User:Tezkag72/Userboxes/Homophobe has been nominated for deletion at MfD. //roux   18:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Sonic Unleashed

Thanks for that, glad all the hard work paid off. Perhaps I can try some other Sonic games, would be nice to see more of the series get GA status; even if it has been tanking for a while, it's probably still legendary enough to deserve it. SynergyBlades (talk) 01:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Please do. My only advice would be to restrict your scope to the main game entries for the time being, for the collection of Sonic articles are notorious around the interwebs for their exceedingly detailed in-universe content (read: cruft generally added by the rabid 3D-era fans, mostly as IP editors), and trying to wrap your brain around the task of bettering all Sonic articles in general is not for the faint-hearted. :) I'd quite like to get the Genesis-era games up to GA, but the further back one goes the less likely it is that reliable development and reception information can be (easily) found. SynergyBlades (talk) 02:56, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Top video game importance

Hi- I noticed some of your recent edits regarding article importance. The Video games project recently updated their importance scale, and one result of the lengthy discussion was that all articles about a single video game would be not be rated top importance without a discussion at WT:VG. If you think some the games you rerated to top deserve the rating, you are welcome to start a discussion there.

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To Create your own guestbook go [HERE] and click on "Create Page". Thanks for signing my guestbooks, and feel free to ask me any questions on my talk page! Thanks DylanIloveYou DylanIloveYou DylanIloveYou (Talk) 22:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

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"I've seen a policy about this somewhere..."

[1] and what is that supposed to mean? -- Scorpion0422 15:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I thought you might have been commenting on the page's supposed promotion of ownership (as several have before). I apologize if I came off as a tad hostile. -- Scorpion0422 15:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Apologies for absence

Hey, sorry I haven't been on here for a while. I have some RL stuff going on at the moment and will have for another fortnight or so. Be back then.-- Escape Artist Swyer Talk Contributions 20:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, snow. We have about 25 cm (10 inches) of it here in London so everything was cancelled for the day due to lack of transport. Good news about Everything in Time. Thanks for updating my page. Now to focus efforts on Boom Box (album) until we can nominate that over at WP:GAN. While that goes through the lengthy backlog we can brush up the music section of Tragic Kingdom. I'm sure we can write lots about the themes of Stefani's femininity and breakup with Kanal and fill it with quotations from the interview mine on the band's website. Breaking news: I have a snowday tomorrow too. -- Escape Artist Swyer Talk Contributions 00:02, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Mario Kart DS (from Gary King's talk page)

I think you understood my comment. I was going to review (and probably pass) that article, but you beat me to the punch! :) Dabomb87 (talk) 02:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Re:Portal:Linkin Park

You're welcome Tezkag, I am a Linkin Park and Nu metal fan too. I would like to continue to help the portal, If you can give me your ideas on contents of the portal. Like News, DYKs etc. Cheers!--Chanaka L (talk) 07:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, It is better if Selected Articles are QAs and FAs. According to WikiProject Linkin Park, which you are all a member there are 1 FAs, 2 GAs and 4 Bs. for featured portal a portal need at least 10. So we should get more quality articles. unfortunately Selected Article is not randomized yet. But Selected Picture is. Cheers!--Chanaka L (talk) 14:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Seems to be Minutes to midnight have the potential. So I suggest you to start improve it for yourself. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Metal seems to be pretty active. ask there for help. I can also lend little helping hand. I got the feeling it's gonna be fine. Cheers!--Chanaka L (talk) 02:15, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Shadow the Hedgehog

You've definitely done a great job, especially on the now-referenced gameplay section and plot. For the plot, it might be nice to include something about what sort of range the ten endings encompass, something I wouldn't be surprised to see a review at least mention briefly. I did add the development information from that IGN interview I found, but couldn't find much else, as nice as it would be to expand this section further (I don't know if that would hold up assessment). I trimmed the censorship section to keep the quotes in the refs, as it seemed a bit redundant to include it twice and wasn't significantly adding to the article to have them listed in the prose itself. Also, you'll need to check the reference for the initial ESRB rating as it wasn't in the given reference (I've added a couple of tags for that section, one of which is next to the reference in question). Finally I wonder whether the reception section isn't a bit short and could do with some more information; perhaps splitting into either what was appreciated followed by what wasn't, or into sections by elements such as gameplay, audio etc. and then using quotes to explain the reception to each, but perhaps that's just a stylistic choice. SynergyBlades (talk) 16:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

The ESRB rating by 1UP on both the separate referenced pages (announcement and review) is, like the release date and other title info, likely pulled from the same database location for the title and then displayed identically on every 1UP page related to the title. As such I'm not certain this proves its rating when first announced as it's likely just an error on the rating in the database entry for the title as a whole, so the wording of the section might want updating. SynergyBlades (talk) 04:41, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Though I personally would appreciate better layout/tidy-up in the reception section (on reflection its scope/length is probably about right compared to the size of the rest of the article's sections), I'd say it's probably ready for listing at the nominations. SynergyBlades (talk) 01:43, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I just passed the review. Good work! -Drilnoth (talk) 21:16, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Well done, that was quick. I haven't really worked on getting any others to GA status for a while, might get back to it at some point. SynergyBlades (talk) 01:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
You could have a bash at Sonic Heroes. It's not the most interesting entry in the series, but I did some initial tidy and sourcing for that, as well as the Reception section, and I reckon the quantity of information available for the game will be similar to the Shadow article. SynergyBlades (talk) 02:24, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

The comment about multiplayer mode under reception seems lonely, can more be said about it from other sources? If they all state the same thing, then that sentence should reflect it. Since I'm not seeing any reference on Sonic Team there is also a issue in the lead. In the lead it mentions what happened to Sega Studio USA, but there's no source for this. « ₣M₣ » 21:18, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

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Sonic Rush

Just scouted around for some development info, don't have time to work them into the article so I thought I'd leave them here for you to peruse.

SynergyBlades (talk) 04:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

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hey don't worry about it you fixed my mistakes it's all good.--Lbrun12415 04:00, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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Sorry I haven't been online much. I have RL stuff going on at the mo. Give me a week/two weeks and I'll be back. EA Swyer Talk Contributions 20:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

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Necrid FAC

Hit up the points you mentioned. Could you take a gander and give a shout for support or oppose, or mention anything else I might fix in the article? Oddly seems not many people are looking at the FAC this time around...--Kung Fu Man (talk) 10:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Sonic

Send me an email via the Special:EmailUser bit (you can't send attachments onwiki). I'll reply with some of the stuff I've found. --Der Wohltempierte Fuchs (talk) 22:19, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

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Shadow

Sorry I didn't get round to replying sooner. Admittedly I'm not well-versed in the subtle nuances that separate a Good Article from a Featured one, as editors more experienced than me tend to find things that I don't notice. I do like the rewrite of the Reception section, as I prefer to see an ordered breakdown of the criticisms levelled at a game, which it now does really well. I'd also suggest just watching out for the use of semi-colons as a few I've seen (and edited) are a bit awry; for instance, using one to break up a sentence then using "and" directly after doesn't really work, grammatically (the "and" acts as a conjunction to connect the two parts of the sentence, but the semi-colon just before it breaks it up, e.g). Good luck with the nomination, and let me know how it goes! SynergyBlades (talk) 00:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Is a diagram really necessary where prose will suffice? It might be a little tricky to describe but does it really need in-depth detail? SynergyBlades (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Shadow the Hedgehog

Truth be told Dave cited the one thing wrong with it I'd cite: it needs more referencing for reception and whatnot. Have you tried hitting up periodical databases like MyWire?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:51, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks for the little fix you made on my user page surprised I never spotted that myself :) BigDuncTalk 16:58, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Video Games Barnstar

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Tezkag72, on behalf of Wikipedians everywhere I present you with this barnstar to recognize your efforts improving video game articles, especially Shadow the Hedgehog (video game) and Sonic Rush. Keep up the good work! — Levi van Tine (tc) 11:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Shadow images

The problem is that both the image description page and caption of File:ShadowTheHedgehogMultiplayer.JPG don't really meet NFCC. we need non-free images to significantly add to the article, and be the subject of critical commentary. For example, File:Uru screenshot.png illustrates not only the environments of the game which were praised, but the custom avatars and third-person view of the series--also covered by reviews (especially the clunky third-person control). Another example: File:St6-excelsior and shock wave.png illustrates the appearance of the ship, but more importantly the appearance of a massive wave, to which a full paragraph is devoted explicitly to. The wave itself became important (as the praxis effect) and describing its intended scale and appearance and how it was manipulated arguably does suffer without the reference. The image also shows a model which was filmed with a unique and at the time cutting edge method of seperate light passes to result in a crisp edge in postproduction. I could go on, but you get the idea. For Sonic, think about the content of what you've written. For example, there is nothing in gameplay about the homing attack--but it's mentioned in detail in reception. Why not beef up gameplay and switch with an image showing the attack? For similar issues at FAC, read through the stuff for Star Wars: Rogue Squadron which deals with image reduction and prioritizing elements, nfcc issues and such. It should prove enlightening. cheers, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 15:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

it's a free image, I very much doubt someone is going to oppose an FAC for it, but I believe that by adding space between the boxes it will be much easier to decipher. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 13:44, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Just make it explicitly clear in the caption and fair use rationales. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 21:58, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry about long captions; if it's succint as it can be, it's as good as it can be. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 22:09, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: A small request

I am deleting them now, per WP:CSD#U1. – ABCD 21:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Done. – ABCD 22:00, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Shadow the Hedgehog (video game) copyedit

I've seen you around, actually (I have a very large watchlist), and I'd be happy to copyedit. I'm in the process of finishing up another request, though, and I tend to space out the copyediting over a few days (for a medium-sized article, such as the one requested) in order to avoid brain lockup from staring at the same text for an extended time as I tweak the wording. I'll try to get to it in a week or so. — TKD::{talk} 03:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Just a note for you that I've started on the copyedit and will probably be working on it over the next few days. In the course of looking over the article, I rewrote the lead section for what I thought was better flow; you might want to check whether the revision suits your taste. Also, I left a hidden query (in SGML comments, <!-- like this -->) in the "Gameplay" section regarding the "Chaos Powers"; the section doesn't explain how the gauges are filled, so that will confuse those unfamiliar with the game (like me). Are the gauges filled by collecting something? By holding a button down? By simple passage of time? — TKD::{talk} 12:40, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, either the questionable sources need to be shown reliable (possibly through reliable sources that cite them or present them as authoritative, or through the backing of a reliable media company) or another source needs to be found. I have limited-access subscriptions to InfoTrac and ProQuest that I can check tonight for better sources. — TKD::{talk} 13:32, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Urgh. I can't find anything reliable, at least in English. If you want something that validates the existence of the soundtrack, you could try this (Google-translated from Japanese to English, though find someone who can read the language if you're going to use it) on Famitsu's website. I don't think that the link verifies the release date, although Google's translator, like all free computer translators, is very rough at best. I suppose that someone who can read Japanese could also try to find a mention either on Apex Trax's Japanese website or in another reliable Japanese news source. I think that you could source the track list to the CD itself. That leaves the A2 interview, which was conducted by a questionable source, though I don't think that it's critical to include that content. The important point is to verify the soundtrack itself. — TKD::{talk} 00:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
The gist was to be careful with foreign-language sources, though this particular case should be straightforward enough. :) — TKD::{talk} 13:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Never cite a machine-translated source, because it almost certainly contains errors somewhere in the text, even if the general meaning can be gleaned (I linked to the Google translation mostly out of my own convenience, because the only Japanese characters that I recognize are 一, 二, 三, and 四). If a translation by a reliable source were to exist, we could use that. If it doesn't, as in this case, then cite the original and note in the citation (using the language= parameter for cite templates) that it's in Japanese. — TKD::{talk} 13:30, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
First pass is done. I have some SGML comments and concerns for you to look at (mostly dealing with a few unclear things). — TKD::{talk} 00:45, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
As long as the opinions in the cited articles aren't nuanced enough to require original interpretation to synthesize, I personally don't have fundamental problems with "thought similarly" (except for the fact that it was repeated a few times; I swapped "agreed" in one instance), although I could see a rationale for further explaining "thought similarly in what way?" You might wish to substantiate it with more quotations and paraphrasing. — TKD::{talk} 17:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Search for <!--. GUN and ARK were introduced without being explained, and "G.U.N." and "GUN" were both used in the article (which one is correct?). — TKD::{talk} 19:31, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes, looks good to me. —TKD [talk][c] 23:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
One thing I just noticed: "The final version retained most of the original profanity" is referenced to footnote 21, which is a single item of dialogue. Did you mean to use something else to back that generalization? —TKD [talk][c] 23:59, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Is there a source that "most" of the original profanity was "retained"? If not, should we change it to something like "some profanity is present" and source it to the Gaming Age review? —TKD [talk][c] 00:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Saw the diff. Looks good. —TKD [talk][c] 00:23, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm looking over concerns in the previous FAC. Gaming Age you could defend by showing news articles from reliable sources that cite it; there are a few in Google News' archive, such as [2], [3]. As for copyediting, we've taken care of that, hopefully. The last remaining thing is sourcing. You've got some print reviews now, but it might be good to try to track down the Famitsu and/or Nintendo Power reviews and at least consult them. That's the only thing that I see objections for. —TKD [talk][c] 00:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
The links are good for answering the question, "What makes this a reliable source?" The fact that other reliable sources cite it helps. As for the other reviews, yoyu could check WP:VG/M to see whether any WPVG member is listed as having the magazines in question, or you could ask at WT:VG. —TKD [talk][c] 02:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Sonic Rush On Hold

Hello, the article you nominated(Sonic Rush)has been put on hold. Please see this page for information on what you should do to have this article pass. You have 5 days to meet my requirements or the article will be failed(and I will shoot a kitten). Lol cheers.--(NGG) 03:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

And please do reply here. I'm watching your page, no need to reply at my talkpage.--(NGG) 03:43, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Congrats on your new GA, the kitten has been released and you can call of the negotiator. Also, I don't know if you feel like it but can you review Gears of War 2 for me?--(NGG) 01:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I'll try to tomorrow if I have time. Thanks for passing Sonic Rush! Tezkag72 (talk) 02:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
No problem bro. You did an excellent job.--(NGG) 02:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I put Gears of War 2 on hold. Overall, it's of good quality, but needs more sourcing. See here for the review. Tezkag72 (talk) 21:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the review, I will have those refs by Friday. Right now I very busy reading this book right now so that I can right the synopsis. No time to work on Gears 2 now but by Friday fixes will be done.--(NGG) 22:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I addressed the problems you listed at the review but I'm getting offline right now.--(NGG) 03:58, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Then congratulations on your new GA. Tezkag72 (talk) 13:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the review, time to go separate ways, cheers.--(NGG) 20:45, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for April 2009

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Planescape: Torment

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Re:Nintendo Power

Hello Tezkag72. Eh, Issue 195 (Sep. '05) is the Hog Heaven one (Issue 194 (Aug. '05) has Mario Kart DS on the cover). Anyway, neither one of those has the Shadow the Hedgehog review; that's in Issue 199 (Jan. 2006), which I have. I'm happy to provide you a scan of the page with the review and all the other information you'd need for a reference, but I'm a bit confused; why do you need this information if you already own those issues? -sesuPRIME talk • contribs 14:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

You don't have August 2005? Well, you added your name to that issue at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Magazines/Nintendo Power... -sesuPRIME talk • contribs 22:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)