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You tagged AFC West for wikification. Is there any particular reason? What are your concerns with its wikiformat and other article issues? Thanks, Metros232 00:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: FU in article space

Because the use of fair use images on the main page, which is not in the main article namespace, is generally considered to be a mistake and is usually quickly undone. Further, the page on which I was removing the images is a Wikipedia space page, not a main article namespace page. If you have further questions, I'd be happy to answer. Thanks, --Durin 04:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Dispute with Durin

I invite you to visit User:Husnock/Durinconcerns since I see you ahve also recently been spoken to about this user regarding image removal from pages. I am trying to keep a record of these disputes. -Husnock 09:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your inputs to my concerns page. This user is flat out dangerous and could wind up running a large amount of people away from this project. I am soon to be one of them, since much to my horror his activites were backed by a large number of well esablished users. It makes one wonder. -Husnock 18:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


Military brat

Hi Sumoeagle, I've started a discussion on the talk page for military brat about the new name, and what an appropriate name would be. I would love your input. Also, thanks for the support on the FAC. Military brat nameBalloonman 22:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

You're right: Boy Scouts and Girl Guides. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 19:36, 26 December 2006 (UTC).

Ya, that guy's being too Brit-centric and Gilwell is a major int'l site; and not everywhere has merged girls into Boy Scouts.Sumoeagle179 20:37, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

You are being to Yank-centric - your organisation in the USA may be called the Boy Scouts of America - but many associations around the world are co-educational (that means they accept both girls and boys as members - just wanted to clear that one up). The thing that links Boy Scouts in America and Scouts in the UK and other countries around the world is the word Scout. It is best when refering to Scouting on an international site to refer to us as Scouts and not imply gender, as this is incorrect in the majority of cases. We are now members of the worldwide family of Scouting - not a brotherhood. --82.20.30.137 17:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

You are being Brit -centric. Most orgs still aren't coed. Get an account or I won't even talk to you anymore.Sumoeagle179 18:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't talk - but I will still edit so that this article about a UK owned campsite is correct.--82.20.30.137 18:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)--82.20.30.137 19:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

True that! Sumoeagle, your Puritanical US-centric ideas show plainly. One cannot argue that they are not xx-centric by claiming that someone else is yy-centric. It just shows that you are only thinking about what you believe. Triptenator (talk) 23:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Scouting

Hi Sumoeagle179... I will try to help with Scouting, although my feeling is that because of the age of the FAC nomination, the decision is going to go one way or the other regardless of further copy-editing. I will continue, but it will take a while to complete! –Outriggr § 10:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Any help would be appreciated. Even if it fails, it'll have that much better chance when it gets renominated.Sumoeagle179 14:06, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Notification: I gave a major copy-edit to the Scouting lead text. Please have a look. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 22:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC).
OK with me, made two small edits. I did see it says nothing about controversies, I suspect someone (Jagz?) will say something about that. Sumoeagle179 22:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Bummer: I don't see any reason why these controversies should be in the summary. There are IMHO well covered in the body of the article, an article of its own, and on many other page. Thanks for the two edits. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 23:19, 29 December 2006 (UTC).
Well, I actually agree with you, but you may know Jaqz is only interested in Scouting (ie, BSA) controversies, but at least he's half rational about it, unlike others we've met.Sumoeagle179 23:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixing references

Hey, I noticed you fixed some references on the Gerald Ford page. I was wondering if you might like looking at some of the blanks in the reference section and see if you can fix those. I think #30 was one that needed fixing. If you're too busy, I understand. Thanks! Veracious Rey talkcontribs 16:57, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. No, I'm not a boy scout. I checked out that article when reading about Gerald Ford's eagle scout award. I think I made a minor edit on that page. Thanks for the offer though. Veracious Rey talkcontribs 17:19, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Japan FA nomination

Hi, on the page you said "stand-alone portal links go in the See also section". I honestly didn't understand what you meant by that. Please reply on my talk page with an explanation as to what needs to be done to the page. Thanks, John Smith's 21:55, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

So it was just the issue of moving the portal icon down the bottom? Ok, thanks for clearing that up. John Smith's 23:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I also p ut a picture in it for you.Sumoeagle179 00:05, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Military brat

Well, somebody beat me to the category of military brat, but I went through last night and updated all of the brats on the List of famous military brats to have the category on their page. Well, the category has already been nominated for deletion. The reasoning is because it is a "non-neutral" term and parental occupation is irrelevant. Thus, I'm letting people who have contributed to the Military brat article know so that they can support keeping the category. Here is the link to the discussion [1] Balloonman 20:26, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Are you able to address the remaining concerns at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Gerald Ford? Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the help on this. One of your points was a not clear to me "Refs should never have external jumps, see fn 22 and 23 for what not to do". I wasn't sure what "fn 22 and 23". Thanks again Mattnad 20:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

FN means footnote. THere are external jumps in those footnotes.Sumoeagle179 00:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok. I took another crack at it. There may be some more copy-editing due, but I tired to implement all of your recommendations. Since the citations seemed to be the area of greatest variance from GA format, I decided to work hard on using the Citation templates. There is still one nagging thing for me. Your suggestion to remove all external jumps in the references didn't make sense to me. When I looked for examples around Wikipedia for alternatives, the articles tended to have external jumps in "Notes" and "References." This includes Featured Articles.

If you don't mind, if I'm still doing it wrong, can you edit one of the offending references to show me how it should be done (or refer me to an example). I could just resubmit the article for GA review, but you were really great and I thought I'd go to you first. Mattnad 22:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

give me a day or two to get to this.Sumoeagle179 03:50, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

GA hold on NFL playoffs - clarification requested

Could you please clarify on the talk page of NFL playoffs which sections you feel need further referencing. I am fairly certain that every assertion of fact in the article is referenced to one of the references at the bottom, it will merely require me multi-referencing them to the statements you find questionable. I will work on your other suggestions as well (the lead and the referencing format) and get back to you when it is done. Again, if you could just indicate on the talk page of the article which specific statements in the article you feel need further referencing, I will link these to all needed references. Thanks in advance for your help! --Jayron32 06:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I have made all requested changes. All assertions of fact and all meaningful paragraphs have been referenced. Reference formats have been made uniform using standards spelled out in WP:MOS and WP:CITE using cite templates. Lead has been rewritten and expaned to more complete summary. Please review it again and pass it if you see fit! --Jayron32 05:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

This is on GA hold for 7 days for: needs more refs (ex: all of background only has one), refs are not consitently formatted, not enough wikilinks. Sumoeagle179 23:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Failed GA, no action taken.Sumoeagle179 23:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I am getting/working on the citations and have them offline, and isn't the 7th day on the 28th yet? Please re consider. Thank you. --Ate Pinay (talkemail) 04:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
It was only about one hour from that day and no action had been taken and I had no reason to expect any. If you address the issues, renominate it and let me know and I'll expedite it.Sumoeagle179 10:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Your statement - "I had no reason to expect any" is very very low, and subjective for a fellow Wikipedian of stature! After having put so much time and effort into this article, any additional time for me is immaterial. Besides, I had to make sure everything is covered from my end, so as not to compromise the value and integrity of the article. Please look into my list of GAs in my userpage to understand me and how I work! In addition, in Wikipedia, we do not assume the negative! We always abide by WP:AGF. BTW, FYI, I am not re-nominating this yet. I have submitted this for WP:GA/R, just so you know. I hope you do not do the same thing to other well-meaning wikipedians next time. What I am trying to say is check the credentials or credibility of the major contributor first before you use the axe! Thank you for your time. --Ate Pinay (talkemail) 18:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
You should assume good faith also, with no response after over 6 days, I stand by my statement.Sumoeagle179 18:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
BTW, GA/R takes longer than an expedited renom.Sumoeagle179 18:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the heads up. Sorry for the miscommunication. or the failure to communicate. I simply had so much in both RL and WL. Maybe i will take you up on your offer of the renom, if I can drag myself our of the depression of the failed GA. I will let you know before the week ends. It's just that I owe it to Bohol and its people to make this article WP:GA, which is my hope for all others in Portal:Bohol. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pinay06 (talkcontribs) 07:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

Re:

Dear Sumoeagle179,

I saw you have been active with several featured articles. I just nominated the Ohio Wesleyan University article and I wanted to get your opinion and comments regarding its nomination. Thank you for your time! I really appreciate it! LaSaltarella 03:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi!,

I just realised that you review the articles for GA status, regarding music topics, and am wondering what you think of the article concerned. I hope to bring it up to GA status and go from there :-).

If there are any problems, could you if possible please list them?.

Cheers!

Marcus Bowen 19:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Tony's talk page

Although I, in part, agree with the sentiment behind your comment (see the FAC for CCMFC), please, lets not go making those sorts of comments about each other. Personality clashes occur, and this is natural, but it is better to raise objections to one's comments both a) in the right venue (WT:FA?), and b) in the right manner. Cheers, Daniel Bryant 03:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Sumoeagle, keep OFF my talk page, you low-down little tic. Tony 04:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

GA Review

Dear Sumoeagle179,

It would be more than welcome - if you could find some time in order to review the Ante Starčević biography - which I nominated as a GA.

Best regards,

--BarryMar 12:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

RFA thanks

Thank you, Sumoeagle179, for your constructive comments in my recent RFA, which passed with 86 support, 8 oppose, and 5 neutral !votes. I will keep in mind all your suggestions and/or concerns, and will try to live up to your standards. Please, if you have any comments or complaints about my actions as an administrator, leave a note on my talk page, and I will respond as soon as I possibly can, without frying my brain, of course.
Thank you once more,
· AndonicO Talk

GAC backlog elimination drive

This form message is being sent to you either due to your membership with WikiProject Good Articles and/or your inclusion on the Wikipedia:Good article candidates/List of reviewers. A new drive has been started requesting that all members review at least one article (or more, if you wish!) within the next two weeks at GAC to help in removing the large backlog. This message is being sent to all members, and even members who have been recently reviewing articles. There are almost 130 members in this project and about 180 articles that currently need to be reviewed. If each member helps to review just one or two articles, the majority of the backlog will be cleared. Since the potential amount of reviewers may significantly increase, please make sure to add :{{GAReview}} underneath the article you are reviewing to ensure that only one person is reviewing each article. Additionally, the GA criteria may have been modified since your last review, so look over the criteria again to help you to determine if a candidate is GA-worthy. If you have any questions about this drive or the review process, leave a message on the GAC talk page. --Nehrams2020 00:51, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Re: Bud Grant

Thank you Sumoeagle179 for taking time to review Bud Grant. I apologize for not responding to you sooner, but I was trying to dig up more post-coaching events to further add to the article. I appreciate your support and comments and I'm grateful that my work to improve the article paid off. Thanks again for everything! RyguyMN 02:51, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

GA wikiproject

I noticed you have listed yourself as a GA reviewer, and that the list says you are new. Would you like to review Hippolyte de Bouchard? --Argentini an 19:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the support vote on FA at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Soviet invasion of Poland (1939). I thought you may want to check the comments posted more recently, they are somewhat amusing :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  20:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

July 2007 GAC backlog elimination drive

A new elimination drive of the backlog at Wikipedia:Good article candidates will take place from the month of July through August 12, 2007. There are currently about 130 articles that need to be reviewed right now. If you are interested in helping with the drive, then please visit Wikipedia:Good article candidates backlog elimination drive and record the articles that you have reviewed. Awards will be given based on the number of reviews completed. Since the potential amount of reviewers may significantly increase, please make sure to add :{{GAReview}} underneath the article you are reviewing to ensure that only one person is reviewing each article. Additionally, the GA criteria may have been modified since your last review, so look over the criteria again to help you to determine if a candidate is GA-worthy. If you have any questions about this drive or the review process, leave a message on the drive's talk page. Please help to eradicate the backlog to cut down on the waiting time for articles to be reviewed.

You have received this message either due to your membership with WikiProject: Good Articles and/or your inclusion on the Wikipedia:Good article candidates/List of reviewers. --Nehrams2020 03:23, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

John Mayer FA promotion

I want to thank you for your assistance in bringing the John Mayer article to FA. It means the culmination of almost two years of work for me, and wouldn't have been possible without help from the WP community. Thanks again.--Esprit15d 12:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Reagan FAC

I just wanted to thank you for registering a support on Ronald Reagan's FAC page. Best, Happyme22 02:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Venturing (Scouting)

Since when is it considered appropriate to remove accurate and verifiable information (and also to lable it cruft!)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.69.137.23 (talk) 00:37, August 21, 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou for your advice and attention in relation to this article's GA nomination. I am afraid that after searching I have been unable to turn up any further useful information and so I am withdrawing the nomination until I can find the information which is currently lacking. Again, thankyou for your time and interest, it was most appreciated.--Jackyd101 10:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

This one's for you

Thanks so very much for supporting the recent FAC of Hispanic Americans in World War II. It was successful and Hispanic Americans in World War II has been promoted! I'm looking forward to hopefully getting Hispanic Americans in World War II on the front page. In the mean time, please accept this Beer as a token of my gratitude. Salud! Tony the Marine 15:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your review of the William Stacy article

Appreciate your review and suggestions regarding William Stacy. Thank you. Regards, ColWilliam 15:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to bother, but...

Hello Sumoeagle179. Just noticed that an editor-user, Michael Devore, found a typo on my final edited version of William Stacy. He fixed after you designated as GA. Thought that I should let you know, in case you wanted to change the GA version. My apologies. I'm usually very careful about spell-checking. Thank you again for your review and suggestions. Regards, ColWilliam 01:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I should have caught it. I'll change the permanent version link, but nowhere near worth removing GA designation. Thanks for the tip.Sumoeagle179 01:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

65th Infantry Regiment-concerns

Thnak you for pointing out your valid concerns on the 65th Infantry Regiments talk page. You are absolutely right and I have taken care of them. Cheers! Tony the Marine 19:08, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Note only did I fix the refs. with the retrieved dates (How is it possible that I did not see that mistake? It must be my age), I also unbolded the captions in the images. Tony the Marine 22:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you very much for your support at my RfA. Regards, Jogers (talk) 09:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The now-traditional RFA thank-spam

Nehrams2020 RfA Thanks

Thank you for your participation in my RfA, which closed successfully with unanimous support. I appreciate you taking the time to stop by and vote and I can't wait to learn the new tools and further immerse myself into Wikipedia! Please don't hesitate to point out any errors I make so I can prevent them from occurring again. I'm always here to help, so if you ever need anything, just let me know. Also, thanks to Wizardman for nominating me and for guiding many other editors to become admins. Again, thank you and happy editing! --Nehrams2020 07:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Edokter RfA

Dear Sumoeagle179,

Thank you for your participation in my Request for Adminship, which ended succesfully with 26 supports, 3 opposes and 1 neutral. A special thanks goes to Rlevse for nominating me. I appreciate all the support and constructive criticism offered in my RfA. Please do not hesitate to point out any errors I will make (unintentionally of course), so I won't make them again. Please contact me if you need anything done, that's what I'm here for!
EdokterTalk 12:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

FAC Lethbridge

Thanks for your support. It means a lot to me. I've been working on this article for three years. --Kmsiever 04:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! :D

Thanks Sumoeagle179/Archive 1
I would like to thank you for your participation in my successful RfA, which passed with a tally of (44/10/5)[1]. Whether you supported, opposed or were neutral in my RfA, I appreciate your participation and I hope that we can continue to work together to build a stronger and better Wikipedia.

Regards, nattang 04:31, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA

I am sorry you felt it necessary to oppose my recent RfA, which did not succeed. I will attempt to get more experience in the main namespace and will try again for RfA in two month's time. I hope I will have satisfied your concerns by then, but if not, please comment as you feel you should. Thanks for participating in my RfA. -- Cobi(t|c|b|cn) 07:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Read this please

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Netmonger/Archive_2#Arsath_issue NëŧΜǒńğerPeace Talks 19:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

that entry was actually made by User:Taprobanus though the sig says RaveenS, so I've reported it too. Sumoeagle179 19:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for being so considerate.. adding that info there.. :-) NëŧΜǒńğerPeace Talks 19:48, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I just rv'd it, found out about name change.Sumoeagle179 19:51, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

suspected sockpuppet templates being removed

Hi,

I would like to notify you that the sockuppet templates you have posted are being removed for the following users Snowolfd4 and Iwazaki are being removed here and here. Wiki Raja 22:58, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

sock puppets

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sudharsansn is a sock puppet of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Snsudharsan and user http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lahiru_k#Sockpuppetry_case he is trying to change initials and hound wikipedia. please ban him.

He is also notorious in orkut.com for his unsleeping paranoia (he is always on net!)

see his orkut profile. he is from india now residing in new york and went for a visit to srilanka recently. I learnt all these from Orkut.

http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=2743394016842819706

he is an unethical hacker. please be careful

wishes, ORKUT SAFETY FORUM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.96.25.21 (talk) 06:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I referred this to an admin. Sumoeagle179 10:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
This is misleading information to try and trick people. User:Sudharsansn is a legitimate account that was created long before the sock User:Snsudharsan was created, the sole aim of the sock was to specifically created to mock the real account and publish his real picture. It was all proved aout in the SSP case. Dont fall for this. Thanks Taprobanus 21:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
That is why I only noted the name similarity and stated not known if a sock. Thanks for the tip. I wish all the Sri Lankan editors could get along and not abuse the system. Some of them are harming all of them and the project. Sumoeagle179 22:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The IP that posted the wrong message to you is operated by the banned User:PONDHEEPANKAR and posts from New Delhi, India. Shows how different people with different grudges are muddying this situation rather than untangling the mess. Take care. Thanks Taprobanus —Preceding comment was added at 02:04, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, I'm trying to be careful while helping also to try to bring peace to the situation and also stop those gaming the system.Sumoeagle179 11:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I tried to give the information i knew from my experiences in orkut. He had created many sock accounts in Srilanka when he was on tour. See his photos in Orkut album! His interview with Arthur C Clarke, clearly proves it is him who hounded from Srilanka. http://www.orkut.com/AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=2743394016842819706&pid=7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.115.16 (talkcontribs)

Ok if you are so smart, find him or who the hell cares about wikipedia! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.115.16 (talkcontribs)

Another sock

See User_talk:Sumoeagle179#sock_puppets, I think it's another Lahiru_k sock. Pls investigate. Sumoeagle179 10:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

That's not a clear case. True that both usernames are too similar but it is not conclusive. You can add it to the RFCU case. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 15:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Coffee FAC

Hi, I responded to your oppose at the Coffee Fa nomination page. I hoped you could clarify your oppose, and see if I have addressed it. Cheers, Jude. 02:03, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


Other Netmonger Socks

I have been tipped off that these might be netmonger/lahiru_k socks due to edited subject matter bearing very close resemblance to netmonger account. These are user:I798, user:Y7980 and user:Y798. I figure only a checkuser against the lahiru_k accounts can verify that these are indeed sock accounts. Sinhala freedom 19:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

not many edits and not active for awhile, shaky without a checkuser. Sumoeagle179 01:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


Possible typo in ip list

Hi Sumoeagle179, with ips you listed, the last ip (NY) might have been typed incorrectly . I thought I let you know. Sinhala freedom 02:11, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Dearest Supporter,

Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed unsuccessfully with 39 supports, 15 oppose, and 1 neutral. I would have liked to gain some experience of being an admin, but it wasn't to be. At least I gained some valuable time there and will use my knowledge picked up to my next candidacy. I would like to say once again, thank you for voting and I hope to see you at my next request be it a nomination or self-induced, I hope I don't get as many questions!
Rudget Contributions 09:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

African Americans in Omaha, Nebraska

Hi Sumoeagle179, and thanks for your review of the GA request for African Americans in Omaha, Nebraska. I hope that you will re-visit the article again soon, as the requested edits have been completed. Thanks again. • Freechild'sup? 19:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Preity Zinta FA

Hi there. The Preity Zinta article has recently achieved A-class status. Due to the wealth of support I have decided to now nominate for an FA class article which I believe and judging by the comments of others is pretty much up to. In my view it is better than some existing FA actor articles. I would therefore be very grateful if you could give it a final review in your own time and leave your comments and views at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Preity Zinta. Thankyou, your comments are always valuable. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 10:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

My (Remember the dot)'s RfA

I never thanked you for participating in my RfA a couple of weeks ago. Thank you for your support, though unfortunately the request was closed as "no consensus". I plan to run again at a later time, and I hope you will support me again then.

Thanks again! —Remember the dot (talk) 06:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

my rfa

My RfA - thanks

Thank you for your support in my request for adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of 38/1/0! I hope I can live up to the standards of adminship, and I will try my best to make Wikipedia a better place. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 18:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Request for review of GAC Shaktism

Hi. I read about you in Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/List_of_reviewers#Philosophy_and_religion, interested in "everything". Would uou please review WP:GAN Shaktism? The article is about the Goddess oriented sect in Hinduism. Thanks. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 14:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)