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Klaas, I just wanted to let you know that Jefferson9235 is not me. However, this person is an employee of Trans Trans Continental or Talent Rock (as you might have noticed the ip address). I am personally done with Lou's Wikipedia page. Our legal team is finally on the case, so now I can move onto other projects that I have been putting off. From one nerd to another... For what it's worth it has been fun battling with you over the last few months. TalentRock 17:34, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

point taken.[edit]

the page does need some work done, but is not worthy of deletion. i had failed to spot the vandalism, and had thought that it was part of the original text. very sorry about that, had a shocker. thanks for pointing it out. Jmac 20:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC) No problem, are you going to rewrite the 'background' section? if you are, then tell me when you have finished and i will gladly have a look at it. If not, then i am happy to rewrite the section myself. ...

Rewrite[edit]

OK, i will rewrite the article on Sunday(22nd October) as that is the soonest i can do it. I will tell you when it is finished.

Blocked. - RoyBoy 800 23:14, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved message of 2007-02-08T04:17:33 by 24.110.54.195 from my user page to this page[edit]

I'm very computer literate but find this site difficult. I appreciate your 'fixing' my misplaced links and such. Thank you!

Here is one from 2/7 that needs to be placed:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-pearlman0707feb07,0,5575155.story

$317M in investor claims could rival state record for Florida

I will, when time permits, become versed in the Wiki ethos. In the mean time, once again Thank you and FUCK LOU ;-)

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Sorry[edit]

Sorry about the vandal warning, I pressed the wrong button on the script I was using, sorry for the inconvenience RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 15:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Business and Economics Barnstar
A lawyer I know tells me that the Lou Pearlman article is the best source of information he can find on the man. This barnstar is the closest I know to a lawyer's barnstar. Michaelbusch 17:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Boys[edit]

Yeah, I guess the boy-band thing is silly from our perspective, but I just felt the heading needed to be a bit more... Wikipedic? ... discospinster talk 13:02, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The guidelines about writing on living persons.[edit]

I notice you are working hard on the page of Ayman Ahmed El-Difrawi. However, I would like to point you to WP:BLP, the relevant guideline for biografies of living people. In short, it asks not to make any claims that are not verifiable by reliable sources. I also tagged the article for notability, so you might want to look into that aswell. Happy editing, Martijn Hoekstra 09:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lou Cleanup[edit]

Thanks :). I got an urge; it needed wikified. I dont care for Lou; but I do care that people seeking info on him get it. --Thegingerone 20:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a request on the BLP Noticeboard for guidance on the inclusion of links to material sourced solely on easybackgroundcheck and the use of that material as a sole source to support allegations of criminal actions. You may wish to comment in that discussion. (this note also added in the article talk) DMcMPO11AAUK/Talk/Contribs 04:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted easybackgroundcheck. I quote from WP:BLP "Editors should remove any contentious material about living persons that is unsourced, relies upon sources that do not meet standards specified in Wikipedia:Verifiability, or is a conjectural interpretation of a source (see Wikipedia:No original research)." easybackgroundcheck is an anonymous campaign group type website and has no verifiability. If you can not cite a more authoritative source, the material must stay out until such time as easybackgroundcheck is held to meet the WP:Verifiability standards. In addition, people often lie in court proceedings, even under oath. A deposition has little weight, especially if made by the accuser. DMcMPO11AAUK/Talk/Contribs 15:18, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, having read the deposition I have two major issues with it. Firstly it is a lot of what is legally hearsay, i.e. the mother reporting what the child said. Secondly, and this is a big problem for me, is the mother's statement that when she reported a scalding injury of the child to the Sherriff's department, they wouldn't allow her to seek medical aid for the child for over 4 hours while they took statements, and that there was then a further 5 hours or more delay at the hospital while Sherriff's officers were present before the child was first examined. I find it very hard to believe that law officers, who I would expect to have basic first aid training, would first deliberately delay medical treatment of scald injuries for 4 hours, and then sit and wait passively through a further 5 hour delay - anyone who has first aid training knows that burn / scald injuries are something you need to treat fast and that the initial treatment is to cool the affected areas (usually with cold running water) to reduce the heat that has built up in the affected area and so prevent or minimise further damage to body tissue. I simply can't believe that law enforcement officers would ignore this basic first aid. This affects the credibility with which I view the whole deposition, which is a separate issue to the verifiability of the website that it's sourced from. DMcMPO11AAUK/Talk/Contribs 16:17, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"people often lie in court proceedings, even under oath.". True. That's why it is so unfortunate (even suspect) that El-Difrawi managed to have the use of the little boys deposition prohibited and at the same time was allowed to have a private - apparently unrecorded - chat with the judge. Be assured the mother spoke the truth and the criminal lied his way out of it. A dreadfull shame it is. --SooperJoo 15:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have credibility issues (outlined above) with the deposition. However, whether the deposition is true or not is irrelevant to the verifiability of where it's being sourced. If you can source the deposition direct from court records then it's fine. Incidentally, your comments are beginning to suggest to me that you do not have NPOV on this. DMcMPO11AAUK/Talk/Contribs 16:17, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
My POV is writing true facts, following wiki rules. I don't think the court has the record online. I think, whether the deposition is true or not is the only relevant thing really. This should be verifiable with that court. Also, if it were a forgery I assume Wikipedia would possibly get a letter from an offended party, asking with sound legal reasons to take the link down. Until then I'd say, just keep it there. --SooperJoo 20:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your edits are obviously "anti pearlman et al" and thus fail WP:NPOV. You are repeatedly publishing WP:OR based on poor sources Wp:blp#Sources. Please take more care with your editing. DMcMPO11AAUK/Talk/Contribs 10:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer naming my edits on Pearlman at all "pro truth". My contributions on the subject do not fail WP:NPOV. The acronym NPOV does not mean "no points of view". As you may have noticed I do my very best to expose the truth while writing NPOV. If the plain facts cause people to conclude it is a gang of crooks, well, then they can't be helped. --SooperJoo 14:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken to editing the El-Difrawi page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shritwod/Ayman_Ahmed_El-Difrawi_%28draft%29 I will do my best to make the Notability clear, and to get the page into Wiki shape so that it can be re-included into Wikipedia proper.

External links[edit]

Please review our external linking guidelines and WP:BLP. The "Easy Background Check" link simply redirects to the company's home page, and drilling down to find the page in question, it is simply a compendium of someone else's news stories. If we want those stories linked, we can directly link to the stories without going through someone else's Web site. FCYTravis 22:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Les Henderson[edit]

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