User talk:Shoombooly

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Reply[edit]

Actually, I thought the edit (that had code) was gibberish in the diff. I realize that it was just code, and it really looked like vandalism in the diff. Sorry. RedThunder 20:45, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.- That was not a bot, It was me. I use this thing. RedThunder 20:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, well it was so fast, hence the bot thoughts. i guess that tool makes you a cyborg then :P Anyway, no harm done, when next you see my name and gibberish edits, assume it's code (and my inexperience, I had no idea if WP supported the foreign symbols as they were, i know now!). I'll stick with un-orphaning pages for now, and leave the vandal-patrol to you! Shoombooly (talk) 20:51, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Łupawa and de-orphaning[edit]

Yeah, the criteria are fairly strict, and there are some articles it's really tough to de-orphan. IMO those are frequently good candidates for merges or redirects (or occasionally deletion) as you mentioned on the Orphanage talk page. -- Avocado (talk) 21:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Haller[edit]

Thanks for asking me to revisit this. It does look suspicious--see my talk p.--and I will follow up. You did not wrong to speedy it, but its much safer to prod a suspected hoax like this. DGG (talk) 00:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Richard H. Blake speedy declined[edit]

he's originated a number of roles and played on Broadway -- that's certainly an assertion of notability. Take it to AfD if you disagree, _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 02:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not that principal about it. When sifting through those articles, sometimes you come across something that shouldn't be deleted after all, that's where you come in. Someone needs to work on that article though! Shoombooly (talk) 07:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why not you? Could be a good project _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 03:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Musicals really aren't my cup of tea, Bats are, though.Shoombooly (talk) 03:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Mojtaba Pourmohsen[edit]

Thanks for your comment about Mojtaba Pourmohsen. Actually, we strive to avoid an English-centric or Eurocentric bias on Wikipedia, so people who are only notable in a particular country may be worthy of inclusion. Since we disagree, I will take the article to WP:AFD. The community will decide this matter for us. Thanks!--Danaman5 (talk) 09:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talk page.Shoombooly (talk) 09:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not Farsi at all, so I can't read anything on that Wikipedia. You may have some legitimate concerns about this article. I don't have perfect knowledge of the notability criteria myself, so don't worry about that. In any case, I have begun an AFD discussion on the article, so it may still be deleted. Thanks for all you do on Wikipedia!--Danaman5 (talk) 09:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1783 in Spain[edit]

Hey, thanks for your note. I was following the format for England, France, etc ... considering Spain's history at that time at least was equally important, I thought it was the right thing to do ... after all, if we have a 1783 in Wales... Bwilkins (talk) 23:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC) I can start off with small stubs, it may take ages to fill in the details :) Bwilkins (talk) 23:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merabtene Nabil[edit]

Hi Shoombooly. The thing is that it asserts notability: CEO, £20 million etc. If the article asserts notability then it can't be speedily deleted; there's a strict criteria administrators have to follow. Therefore, when it doesn't meet A7, it should be prodded or AfD'd. Hope this helps. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 15:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{articleissues}}[edit]

Hey, have you thought about using the articleissues template? I ask because I saw your edit here, which turned into this once I used articleissues. It really does help condense the tags, and cause less clutter at the top of the article.--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 19:06, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Page move of Naked-backed Bat[edit]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently copied the contents of a page and pasted it into another with a different name. Specifically, you copied the contents of Naked-backed Bat and pasted it into Davy's Naked-backed Bat. This is what we call a "cut and paste move", and it is very undesirable because it splits the article's history, which is needed for attribution and is helpful in many other ways. The mechanism we use for renaming an article is to move it to a new name which both preserves the page's history and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. In most cases, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. If there is an article that you cannot move yourself by this process, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves to request the move by another. Also, if there are any other articles that you copied and pasted, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. --Sugarbutty 11:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, my bad, I didn't know this yet. Will post the article in the list you provided, and it won't happen again. Thanks!! Shoombooly (talk) 12:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's already been sorted. CIreland, an admin, has done the necessary history merge. Cheers. --Sugarbutty 12:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thanks a lot :) Shoombooly (talk) 12:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nabil Merabtene[edit]

See my talk :) Gwen Gale (talk) 18:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy songs[edit]

Hi there, when it comes to speedy deletion I tend to follow the rules pretty closely, I know some admins don't. This link will take you to the criterion to do with speedy deletion due to notability (A7). It states bands can be deleted if they don't assert notability but albums can't. I take the view that if albums can't songs can't either, especially as a song may be covered by different bands. If you think maybe there should be discussion as to whether songs should be speediable, start a debate on the talk page, it can't hurt! Thanks, Malla nox 19:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, well, I read it and I still think it's kind of odd that albums can't be speedied, and bands can, however, if that is the consensus, there must've been ample reason to do so, probably because if an album is published, that means automatic notability...right? Shoombooly (talk) 21:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose so. Remember, the article must ASSERT notability. They don't have to BE notable to survive. If they say "He's a piano player" it gets deleted, if it says "He's an award-winning piano player" it stays. It's very hard to prove notability for an album without doing research. The whole point of speedy deletion is to flag up to admins articles that clearly should go. Articles that can be dispatched on their merry way without having to do any research as the criteria are broad but well defined. It's for participants in AfDs to do the research and make an informed decision as to whether an article should stay or not. Songs fall into the same category. "Happy Birthday" probably hasn't ever won an award and yet nearly every English-speaking person has sung it. Does that make it clearer? Malla nox 22:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It does, the whole asserting notability thing sometimes makes me pull the trigger when I think the assertion is wrong. Then again, no harm done to attempt an in retrospect unjustified speedy now and then, as long as the admins are paying attention! Thanks for the clear and concise explanation. Shoombooly (talk) 22:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Prod[edit]

It's encourage for editors to explain why they're contesting, but it's not compulsory. Removed prods should only be reinserted in cases of obvious vandalism like blanking the page or something. --Closedmouth (talk) 13:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:O[edit]

Hey, I noticed you removed your name from the WP:O participant list. I'm sorry to see you drop out of the project, I must say. We need all the help we can get.--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 16:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

well, long story. Shoombooly (talk) 16:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Had nothing to do with my commitment, i just don't want to get into any more trouble. Shoombooly (talk) 16:41, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trouble? Hmph. You'd been doing such an awesome job with the orphans, too.... -- Avocado (talk) 18:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not everyone seems to think so, I'm afraid. Shoombooly (talk) 22:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, i'm taking an indefinite break, since an admin thinks I'm not entitled to my opinion, as my opinion is apparently violating the fundamental core principle of a collaborative work. And after having given that some thought, i decided i don't need that, and I don't want to hear that again. Shame, though. You two know better, I hope. Shoombooly (talk) 23:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I do know you've been editing in good faith. It does take some effort not to try to get all the spam and other crud that's floating around deleted, if only because it feels like an appropriate "take that!" to people who are trying to abuse WP for self-promotion. I avoid that temptation by tagging heavily and hoping that will bring it to the attention of someone better-qualified to evaluate whether the topic indeed has the potential to be encyclopedic.

Anyway, hope you'll come back to us after your break. -- Avocado (talk) 23:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My break on my own language WP lasted a year, and i still haven't gone back. People there were being kept on a short leish by some self appointed half-prophet. We'll see. Shoombooly (talk) 23:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[outdent] Wow, I wouldn't have guessed that English isn't your first language -- you write it very well. -- Avocado (talk) 00:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I definitely do know that you've been editing in good faith. Besides, as a "collaborative" work, everyone's opinion's supposed to be valuable! I delved into some nosiness myself, and found User talk:Iridescent. Having read that, while I can see why you feel the way you do, I don't think that should drive you away from the Encyclopedia, or even the project. Obviously there was an honest disagreement there that got acrimonious, but if you're disagreeing with two admins over the speedy criteria, all that means is that you temporarily refrain from speedying. If you like, instead of speedying, post the articles you think should be speedied to a subpage in my or your userspace somewhere, and I'll take it on myself to go through and speedy/prod/afd them as I see fit, and take whatever wrath that falls onto my own shoulders. Out of curiosity/nosiness, what is your native language?--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 07:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, you will be interested to know that I've switched my vote on the Nokia 1600 AfD.--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 08:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marie Sisters and {{Notability}} tag[edit]

You honestly don't think Marie Sisters meets WP:MUSIC when they've released an album for a notable label, charted one single, and have been covered in multiple reliable sources? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 01:39, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly do think so, actually. But i guess having a song being ranked 46th on a fringe hitlist in the US with 60 positions technically makes them notable, so the tag can go. But since you so strongly support the inclusion of this article, perhaps you could add to it what happened to the act after 2002, why they split up after 1 album, what they went on to do, and what song was co-written with Brian McKnight, to give this article just a hint of interestingness. Cheers, Shoombooly (talk) 13:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay. I've been looking for more info on why they split up, but since they're fairly obscure, I've found little else than what's already in the article — though surely someone else has more info somewhere. I also don't think Hot Country Songs is a "fringe hitlist"; it ain't the Hot 100, but it's not like it's the Dance airplay chart or something. All Music Guide has a review of the album, so I'll probably add that too. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 19:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I added a couple more sources and some more info to the article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 20:13, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hope you come back[edit]

Hey, we noticed you haven't been around en.wiki for awhile, so you've been moved to the WikiProject Orphanage Inactive list. We hope you'll come back, move your name back to the active list, and get back to de-orphaning real soon! Aervanath (talk) 18:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I wanted to supplement the canned message with a personal appeal for you to come back; you were a real help to us for the period you were around. Cheers,--Aervanath (talk) 18:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Citation needed[edit]

If you care at all about the Nubian wild ass, please re-visit your article and add the appropriate citations. If you need help with citation style, I can assist you. I recommend naming your reference (ref name="something") and reuse that refname as many times as you need to. Seriously, references in that article are as rare as the animal itself :o) Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 07:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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