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Happy editing! RegentsPark (comment) 22:02, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for having me! Shiraj chandra (talk) 22:07, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 2022[edit]

Hello, I'm Fowler&fowler. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Maurya Empire have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Please note that instead of edit warring, you should take your concerns to the talk page per WP:BRD and attempt to garner a consensus for your edits. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:12, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:SOURCETYPES for clarifying the best form of reliability on WP, and WP:TERTIARY for doing the same for due weight. Widely-used text books, such as that of Tim Dyson, the foremost historical demographer of India, are used for determining due weight.

Please also read the essay, WP:Lead fixation Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:18, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of constructive criticism to be specific. If I'm not wrong the sources I gave were clearly stating against the idea of caste existing in mauryan period at least,caste wasn't consolidated until the gupta period,even the sources previously provided stat that only a few people followed some form of medieval hierarchy,and that the it didn't affect most of the empire as the empire was well spread out throughout the subcontinent. Am I supposed to write something else?? Can I just write those sources on the talk page and verify them and then add them? Shiraj chandra (talk) 22:18, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Indian caste system, the oldest existing form of apartheid in the world came int being in the late Vedic age, per the evidence of many historians, such as Hermann Kulke and Dietmar Rothermund in A History of India, for example, another widely used text book, cited by 853 scholarly sources on Google Scholar.

Say, K&D:

This quote from a Late Vedic text is revealing in several respects. It shows that the indigenous people subjected by the Aryans possessed great skills as artisans. Racial discrimination against these dark-skinned people also led to a discrimination against the trades which they plied. The original lack of such skills among the Vedic Aryans was probably one of the most important reasons for the emergence of the caste system, which was designed to maintain the social and political superiority of the Aryans. The text quoted above also indicates that the Vedic Aryans did not bring the potter’s wheel along when they entered India but that they found it there.

You are new to WP, barely able to write in Wiki markup language. I sincerely recommend that you learn some skills, cut your Wiki-teeth on simple uncomplicated articles, not start editing the leads of old, controversial articles. Leads are highly compressed summaries.

They require some experience. I'm trying to be helpful, not sound patronizing. All too often new editors don't listen to this sort of advice and don't last long, which is not what either you nor I want. Best regards, Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:32, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=XsOtRGdvIigC&redir_esc=y

Caste system isn't apartheid. It simply isn't. Colour was never really a factor in casteism. I see dark skinned brahmins being unfair to pale dalits as well, it's a matter of status not colour. Apartheid is a whole different thing. Also there are multiple historians who deny the implications of rothermund and kulke. Few examples:

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=gsZkAu-RHVgC&redir_esc=y
Smelser, Neil; Lipset, Seymour (2005), Social Structure & Mobility in Economic Development, ISBN 978-0-202-30799-2
https://web.archive.org/web/20140313043711/http://www.hindu.com/2001/03/10/stories/05102523.htm
http://www.ambedkar.org/ambcd/02.Annihilation%20of%20Caste.htm

Chakravarti, Uma (2 March 1985), "Towards a Historical Sociology of Stratification in Ancient India: Evidence from Buddhist Sources", Economic and Political Weekly, 20 (9): 356–360, JSTOR 4374135 Chakravarti, Uma (2003), Gendering Caste Through a Feminist Lens, Popular Prakashan, ISBN 978-81-85604-54-1

https://www.wisdomlib.org/jainism/book/uttaradhyayana-sutra/d/doc424235.html

Shiraj chandra (talk) 22:42, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not here to argue with you. I've told you the ground rules of WP. Please read WP:BRD. You made a bold edit. I reverted it to a version in which the article had lain for quite some time. It is your business to garner a new consensus on the talk page. That can take time, sometime weeks. All the best. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 23:48, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not this talk page, but the article's talk page. By apartheid I mean forms of stratification, endogamy, and segregation that may have had their origins in notions of racial exclusion and patrimony several thousand years ago, not the melanin content of the skin today, when the apartheid has become transformed by various forms of upliftmant and state intervention, but not entirely gone. More than nine out of 10 Hindus marry in arranged marriages within caste per the latest sociological surveys. The caste system will not go until arranged marriages to, and they show no signs of letting up. This is as far as I engage you here. I urge you again to learn some skills first. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 23:56, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you very much! Lord kai07 (talk) 04:16, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Uncited edits in Marriage in Hinduism[edit]

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Base forms of marriage? Wouldn't that mean one of the righteous forms of hindu marriage. It definitely wasn't seen as unrighteous Lord kai07 (talk) 16:35, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

After looking at the source. It only stats base form of marriage. Out of which some were permissible while others were not. Gandharva marriage was permissible to a large population of the Indian subcontinent. Only ba miniscule portion of Brahmins didn't follow it. Then there is a huge difference between base form and righteous and non righteous. I would suggest changing the words and using a more appropriate word to describe these marriages. Gandharva marriage wasn't seen as non righteous. Lord kai07 (talk) 16:44, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sir, it is a neutral point of view. Even Yasin Malik has considered himself as a terrorist. And aren't Al-Jazeera and Indiatoday reliable sources? Lord kai07 (talk) 03:13, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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i didn't vandalize anything. The source literally stated what I wrote. This is bs. Lord kai07 (talk) 12:30, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Lord kai07 Quote them then. Doug Weller talk 13:19, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Lord kai07 Once again, please quote them. If you don't I'll assume you can't and likely topic ban you. Doug Weller talk 12:34, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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