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Additional opinions such as yours would be appreciated in the current discussions. --Cybercobra (talk) 00:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

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Your edits of today to Template:Swiss populations data CH-FR and Template:Swiss populations YM and all the other related templates you have edited today have broken usage in articles. Please consider well before you edit intricate and connected templates. Unfortunately I have been forced to revert all your edits from today. Debresser (talk) 03:39, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Maybe you should think before taking action and revert. Instead of reverting you could tell me what kind of problems occur. It is no big issue to fix these problems. Regards --Septembermorgen (talk) 10:45, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I thought well enough. I happen to be an expert template editor. Your edits broke the code, meaning that they resulted in the templates not working together any more. I tried to fix it on one template, and then I saw that the problems are arising all around, because of all those edits of yours. It was then that I understood that I had better revert all of them. Believe me that this was not an easy decision, because I know very well how frustrating that must be for you. Which is why I dropped you an explanatory note. Debresser (talk) 11:24, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Please let me know, where exactly problems occured. This makes it easier to fix these problems. Thanks --Septembermorgen (talk) 11:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I saw it first on Template:Swiss populations YM. That template returns "December 2011" in case the parameter value is undefined or "YM". Turning that into "Dec. 2011", as a result of your edits, turns the output into an invalid dateformat per WP:MOSDATE, breaking such templates as {{As of}} which in articles is often used as ((As of|[[Swiss populations YM|CH-BE|citycode]]|lc=on}}. Now those turn up in various dateformat checking categories, but then I saw templates started breaking all over, including Template:Infobox Swiss town, and I understood the problem is serious indeed. See, this is complicated.

Would you care to explain what the precise nature of your proposed improvement? Perhaps it can be done in a way that will not break anything. Debresser (talk) 15:07, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

The purpose of these edits was to reduce the number of paramters for the date and source to just one for each (to make updating these templates less time consuming and to keep the layout of these templates in the different language versions as similar as possible, which matters since those templates are used in 10 or more WPs and each is updated once a year by copying the source text into the these templates in the different language versions). Given the date in ISO-notification (YYYY-MM-DD) one can use this to return the date into other notifications (year only (two or four digits), month (short or long) and year, and so on). You're right the source text of the template:Swiss populations YM has to be #time:F Y| instead of #time:M. Y| to comply with WP:MOSDATE and to keep the same functionality of the template. There's no obvious error in the the template:as of in either of the two versions of the template:Swiss populations YM (as of December 2020) (as of December 2013). To avoid errors I will have a more detailed look on the usage of the data-templates and date-formatting-templates, which will take some time. --Septembermorgen (talk) 19:34, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

You may want to make test edits on WP:SANDBOX, or even Template:X1 etc. Debresser (talk) 20:10, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

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