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Re: Jamal Blackman

My concern is not substantive, but procedural. I agree that the article should be deleted, but since it was already afd'ed once, it is ineligible for deletion by PROD and should go through a second afd. I probably would have nominated the article myself if I hadn't gotten side tracked with other things after removing your PROD. I hope that clears things up. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:58, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

GA recruitment

Roy, you say to proceed but you don't say how. Did you want to go ahead and review a GA, or do you want me to model another one? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:30, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 October newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year! Our champion, for the second year running, is Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions). Our final nine were as follows:

  1. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions)
  2. Australia Hawkeye7 (submissions)
  3. Canada Sasata (submissions)
  4. Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions)
  5. New South Wales Casliber (submissions)
  6. Scotland Adam Cuerden (submissions)
  7. London Miyagawa (submissions)
  8. Poland Piotrus (submissions)
  9. Wyoming Ealdgyth (submissions)

All those who reached the final win prizes, and prizes will also be going to the following participants:

  • New South Wales Casliber (submissions) wins the FA prize, for four featured articles in round 4, worth 400 points.
  • Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) wins the GA prize, for 20 good articles in round 3, worth 600 points.
  • Portland, Oregon Another Believer (submissions) wins the FL prize, for four featured lists in round 2, worth 180 points.
  • Scotland Adam Cuerden (submissions) wins the FP prize, for 23 featured pictures in round 5, worth 805 point.
  • Republic of Rose Island Sven Manguard (submissions) wins the FPo prize, for 2 featured portals in round 3, worth 70 points.
  • Australia Hawkeye7 (submissions) wins the topic prize, for a 23-article featured topic in round 5, worth 230 points.
  • Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 79 did you know articles in round 5, worth 570 points.
  • Ohio ThaddeusB (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 23 in the news articles in round 4, worth 270 points.
  • United States Ed! (submissions) wins the GAR prize, for 24 good article reviews in round 1, worth 96 points.
  • The judges are awarding the Oddball Barnstar to British Empire The C of E (submissions), for some curious contributions in earlier rounds.
  • Finally, the judges are awarding Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) the Geography Barnstar for her work on sea, now a featured article. This top-importance article was the highest-scoring this year; when it was promoted to FA status, Cwmhiraeth could claim 720 points.

Prizes will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

Congratulations to everyone who has been successful in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and a particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition. While it has been an excellent year, errors have opened up the judges' eyes to the need for a third judge, and it is with pleasure that we announce that experienced WikiCup participant Miyagawa will be acting as a judge from now on. We hope you will all join us in welcoming him to the team.

Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. Brainstorming and discussion remains open for how next year's competition will work, and straw polls will be opened by the judges soon. Those interested in friendly competition may also like to keep an eye on the stub contest, being organised by Casliber. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2014 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail) 00:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

November 2013

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pcupdate

Hi, I'm editing Wikipedia since 2006 and I'm aware of the the policy. As everybody I make make mistakes, is is possible that I forgot to update it once, so I'd really like to know to which article(s) you refer. --Jaellee (talk) 07:10, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Did you read the edits before writing on my talk page? If we are talking about the edits on 10 November, you can see that the IP 81.9.187.15 updated the stats without updating pcupdate which I updated afterwards. Please check the facts next time. --Jaellee (talk) 07:07, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Okay, now I see what you mean. Thanks for for the advice, but I'm also aware of that recommendation. In cases were no timestamp was used before, I sometimes don't bother to use the ~~~~~ but just use the date if here is no danger of confusion (last match in this case was on 9 November). --Jaellee (talk) 18:14, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

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Australia national association football team

Hi. I do not know if you are aware of this, but the GA for Australia national association football team is still technically open and has been for about two months. Can you take some action related to this as the reviewer of record? --LauraHale (talk) 07:42, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

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Edit counter opt-in

Hello. I see that you're considering adminship. Would you please opt-in to the month-by-month edit counter (bottom sections of this page) by creating a page (with any content) at this Meta page? This would allow people to better judge your candidacy. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:15, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Novak Djokovic

Ok, I understand, Djokovic is Serbian and can not have good article on english. But you have Juan Martín del Potro with 163 references and 89,952 bytes. Djokovic: 276 references and 148,409 bytes! It is wrong to do what you do. Never mind, for me article Novak Djokovic is good article. He does not need the green check mark.--Soundwaweserb (talk) 18:37, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi there RR, AL "here",

what i did in this player's statistics chart was merely per compression purposes, HONG KONG FIRST DIVISION LEAGUE would be enormous to write on a chart. If you still don't see eye to eye with me, please write the competition's full name again, i don't think it would look good but i don't own the article of course.

Cheers, happy days --AL (talk) 18:56, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Dear Royroydeb, I am sure you have many things to do. Therefore you do not have time to read long articles. Are you sure that the above article meets GA criteria? Borsoka (talk) 23:58, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt action. Borsoka (talk) 03:52, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Spaces around punctuation

Hello, my friend. Maybe you could help with something I'm very curious about. I notice that you often don't use spaces after commas and full stops. I see it in lots of edits by users from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, etc. I've been trying to understand the cause for many years. Many thanks for any light you can shed on this mystery. My very best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:17, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

This is the first time I am hearing this,spaces around punctuation.Buy any book published in the subcontinent and you will never find it.I cant say about other countries but for India,we are never taught this.Whats the use of doing these?A punctuation mark itself has its own significane.I have never seen spaces around punctuations used in our country.It might be the same reason we pronounce english with a/o accent - because in our mother tongues we use a/o accents so like that in our scripts we never put spaces around punctuations and is not practised.RRD13 (talk) 13:46, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Okay. I didn't know that all books published there don't use spaces. Actually, I don't think I've ever seen Indian books published without them. Do they really not teach that in school? Here at English Wikipedia, don't you notice the spaces, or your lack of them? I don't know what a/o accent is. Thanks for the thoughful reply. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:03, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
I just google-booked two random India-published books. [1][2] Both have spaces. In fact, I think they all do. Some have said that this lack of spaces is a mobile device issue. I am astonished to hear that spaces are omitted by choice, or from not noticing, especially after the immense amount of reading you must do at Wikipedia where you can clearly see the spaces everywhere. This is very puzzling to me. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:12, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for notifying me about the book related issue.I just checked with some like The Last Mughal,Boy etc and found you are right.It is an interesting stuff brought to me which I will definetely ask to my teacher.In schools nothing like this is mentioned.Only using of accent marks is not compulsory- this is taught.About a/o accent speaking you can listen this and understand how it is difficult form British onesRRD13 (talk) 15:34, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I can't check the Youtubes. That site is blocked here in China.
Anyway, do you think you could please use spaces here at Wikipedia? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:41, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Done here, Talk:Arsenal Training Centre/GA1.RRD13 (talk) 15:44, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

It may be of some interest to learn that the French include extra spaces around some punctuation marks, e.g. question marks/exclamation marks (see q:fr:William Shakespeare) and also when using guillemets. -- Trevj (talk) 20:10, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Trevj: Very interesting. I never knew.
Royroydeb: You missed one before your signature. :) I'm glad you're doing it now. It makes a huge difference in appearance. Thank you. Anyway, I guess it's not as bad as that editor who doesn't feel the letter "e" is needed. Or, as he put it: "I rally don't fl th lttr "" is ndd." :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:34, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

I just thought I'd provide this thread from 18 November 2013:

Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#The Mystery of the Missing Spaces

Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:07, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Anna Frodesiak, in India, as elsewhere, of course there is space used after a punctuation mark. I got educated in a Bengali medium school in India, and English was taught as a second language. Even there we learned the use of space after punctuation. Now, lack of space becomes more easily evident in type-written script compared to hand-written script. In school, we use hand-writing for answering etc, maybe that is why lack of space after punctuation is easily overlooked by teachers/examiners.--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:31, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dwaipayanc: Thank you. You've cleared that up. I'm very pleased to hear that spaces are taught. Actually, I I'd be surprised if it wasn't.
The odd thing is that in handwritten script, one might make the gap smaller over time, but the spacebar makes a consistent size, so it's either a comfortable space or sentences glued together. Plus, the spacebar is the biggest key and easiest to hit (probably for a good reason). The real whopper is reading what one has just written and not noticing the incredible difference between that and, well, absolutely everything else being read that day. Best wishes, :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

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GA review of Grand Theft Auto V

Hi there, I noticed you picked up my GAN for Grand Theft Auto V and have started the review. Any timeframe for when you can continue with the review? Can you perhaps use an "on hold" or "in progress" tag until you've completed it so we know it's still in progress? Thank you. CR4ZE (t) 02:01, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Royroydeb, your GA Review for Grand Theft Auto V hasn't furthered for over a week now. When will you be coming back to it? Let me know. CR4ZE (t) 12:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
@User:CR4ZE and @User:Lukeno94Sorry guys,I was out for some personal reasons so I could not edit Wikipedia.But now I am back and will look into them.RRD13 (talk) 16:11, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Please see this discussion thread about the GAN for GTA V. If you can't get through the review I'd rather know now and have somebody else take over. CR4ZE (t) 03:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back quickly. Sorry if my response seemed hostile, but I had the article nominated for a month before you picked it up and really wanted to that review quick. I'm glad you approve of the article. Thank you very much for the review. CR4ZE (t) 08:13, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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A kitten for you!

Have a great week, keep up the good work!

AL (talk) 19:06, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Spaces around punctuation, still

Hello there. Just a reminder to please, please pay attention to spaces around punctuation.

I know, to you, it doesn't really stand out. But, to billions of others, this is really glaring and a terrible blight on the otherwise fine work you do. Please, do your best to make spaces around punctuation a habit. Visitors to your articles will be very grateful, and so will I.

Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:57, 19 December 2013 (UTC)