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Your submission at Articles for creation: Farid Allawerdi (March 15)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

issues not addressed.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 22:16, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Theroadislong, I have reviewed the reason you left for rejecting the draft. The draft in question has been improved multiple times and 18 reliable, third patly independent references added, 16 of them are articles about the subject, as they are the subject's obituaries, that were published shortly after his death in 2007. Including two references in published books where the subject's name is mentioned. (the obituaries are in Arabic articles that can be easily translated and the name slightly spelled differently during online translation 'Farid Allah Werdi' which is the same name is a 'Farid Allawerdi', for example: https://almadasupplements.com/view.php?cat=7532

I would appreciate reconsideration. Rogerdoyle1 (talk) 10:19, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Rogerdoyle1! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 22:16, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Farid Allawerdi has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Farid Allawerdi. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 16:21, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Theroadislong, thank you for your comment. Regarding the unsourced content part: All the paragraphs are sourced from the online obituaries that are in the 16 online references that are listed. I am emphasising that the article is a translation with suitable rewording (toning down typical Arabic expressions) of the obituaries and that there is nothing from any other source appearing in the article.

The only thing in the article not from the obituaries is the list of compositions publications and performances. These are garnered from items in the archives of the Lisbon museum that will become publicly available over time (programmes, publicity material etc.). But these can be removed until the items are more readily available by the museum to the general public.(is this the part that you are referring to as HUGE amount of unsourced material?)

Regarding external references in the body of an article, I will remove them, thank you for highlighting that. After i remove the external links could I message you for another review before posting again. Rogerdoyle1 (talk) 17:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

good morning. let me know if you saw my edited submission. Rogerdoyle1 (talk) 08:57, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Having reviewed the draft twice already I will recuse myself from further reviews, please submit for review and get other opinions. Theroadislong (talk) 09:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. will the resubmission automatically go to another reviewer? Rogerdoyle1 (talk) 12:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It will just join the pool of drafts waiting to be reviewed.It could be reviewed in seconds or take weeks!

Theroadislong (talk) 12:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Theroadislong, i do not understand why you are recusing yourself. I have corrected the article as per your comment regarding external links. The entire article is fully sourced from several online obituaries, every paragraph and word and statement relates to online obituaries, some of the obituaries are short whole others are very detailed. It's the easiest wiki article to write, as the sources are very clear and straight forward. Please reconsider your comments. Rogerdoyle1 (talk) 14:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Rogerdoyle1! Articles for Creation reviewers may recuse themselves if they believe they are involved. Most AfC reviewers do not review a draft more than twice because they want to get another reviewer's opinion. I believe that is what Theroadislong is doing. —asparagusus (interaction) ^sprouts! 15:03, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's correct, I try not to review twice, let alone three times, other eyes are required sometimes. Theroadislong (talk) 15:18, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Farid Allawerdi has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Farid Allawerdi. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 16:09, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]