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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox/Daniele Perriers (October 20)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ingenuity was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Written in a very promotional tone—things such as "a voice as sweet as a hazelnut" should be removed.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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— Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 16:09, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Daniele Perriers (October 27)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Greenman were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

See WP:COI. This is so promotional it strikes me as a joke. The submitter didn't even remove "a voice as sweet as a hazelnut" as suggested by the previous reviewer, but it needs a whole lot more removed than that!

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Greenman (talk) 23:44, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well thanks for that, it's not a joke! The previous reviewer, suggested that i could keep the 'sweet as a hazelnut' if i put the source of the quote in the text, i.e Le Monde. My idea was to write the whole article as a series of verifable quotations linked by a neutral text. Which sources do you consider unreliable? I have not 'created' any sources, if you are talking about the youtube and soundcloud recordings: these are actual recording of Daniele Perriers' voice, from commercially produced DVD, CD's. The subject is at least as important to the history of opera as, say, her collegues Jane Barbie and Charles Burles who have Wikipedia entries. Roger Pitcher (talk) 08:37, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some advice[edit]

I see that you have been putting a great deal of work into a draft for an article, only to see it repeatedly declined, which I imagine must be very frustrating. My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start. JBW (talk) 22:50, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Everybody wiki moved to draftspace[edit]

An article you recently created, Everybody wiki, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:24, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Everybody wiki[edit]

Hello, Roger Pitcher. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Everybody wiki, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 22:02, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]