User talk:Riad Salih/Archive 1

category page count

At Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 206 § Category you asked: if there is a way to determine the total number of articles in a specific category, such as Category:Algeria.

You're right, the 500k answer provided by WP:AWB is very likely bogus. So, five minutes here and ten minutes there, I expanded the subcategory listing at Category:Algeria. As I finished expanding a section, I copied the expansion to a text file. In the end I had three text files User:Trappist the monk/Algeria cat, User:Trappist the monk/Algeria cat2, and User:Trappist the monk/Algeria cat3. That was the hard part.

The easy part was writing a lua script to make some sense of the raw lists of categories. Because category names must be unique, the script reads each of the three text files and makes a list of unique category names. At the same time it extracts the numbers of pages and files in each unique category and saves those. It also maintains a count of the number of times that the script has seen each category. The script also makes a similar list of unique category names that include the words 'Algeria' or 'Algerian'. When all of this is done, the script returns a list of statistics and the two lists of category names.

Here are the statistics:

number of categories in the raw tree: 90,688

number of unique categories: 12,966

number of pages in the unique categories: 52,792

number of files in the unique categories: 137

number of categories with 'Algeria' or 'Algerian' in the name: 2,254

number of pages in 'Algerian' categories: 23,584

number of files in 'Algerian' categories: 94

And here are the first few items in the unique category list:

List of unique category names. The adjacent number indicates how many times the category appears in the raw category tree.

The most commonly occuring categories appear 450 times in the raw category tree. The list is alpha sorted.

1055 mm gauge railways in Algeria (3×)

10th century in Ifriqiya (2×)

10th-century establishments in Ifriqiya (3×)

10th-century people from Ifriqiya (3×)

1163 establishments in Algeria (3×)

...

and the first few lines of the Algeria-specific list:

List of unique category names where the text 'Algeria' or 'Algerian' appears in the category name.

The most commonly occuring categories appear 210 times in the raw category tree. The list is alpha sorted.

1055 mm gauge railways in Algeria (3×)

1163 establishments in Algeria (3×)

11th-century Algerian people (1×)

12th-century Algerian poets (8×)

13th-century Algerian people (1×)

14th-century Algerian rabbis (16×)

...

The script is intended to work from the Scribunto debug console only. If you want to see the whole lists:

Edit Module:Sandbox/trappist_the_monk/Cat_tree

At the bottom of the page is the debug console; type: =p.main() and press return.

The statistics and lists are incomplete. The statistics do not include the number of pages and files in Category:Algeria. I left out several branches:

Category:Arabic language – because following its subcategories quickly wandered off into other large subcategories that really didn't have anything to do with Algeria; occurs only once in the raw category tree

Category:Dawson's Field hijackings – recursive; one or more subcategories of this category include this category; occurs 11 times in the raw category tree

Category:Kurdistan Workers' Party – recursive; occurs 450 times in the raw category tree

Category:Military operations involving the PLO – recursive; occurs 10 times in the raw category tree

Category:Peshmerga – recursive; occurs 91 times in the raw category tree

I wonder if these recursive subcategories were a contributing cause of AWB's inability to produce reasonable results – though it would seem that it would follow the first recursive category forever and never end ...

I will hold on to the module and its data files for a while but don't expect them to be around for ever...

—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello, @Trappist the monk !

I must say, you did an excellent job! I never expected that you would take that question into consideration. Determining the exact number of articles within a specific country's category is indeed challenging, and the result will be an approximation. Other versions of Wikipedia employ a method based on portals which are necessary there. By adding the portals, we can create a specific category of the portal X, and then tallying the total number of articles within that portal will provide us with the exact total number of articles,

In the French Wikipedia, there are approximately 14,000 articles, while in the Arabic version, the count falls between 11,000 and 13,000 articles. Therefore, in my opinion, the English Wikipedia should have a range of articles between 13,000 and 15,000.

I sincerely appreciate the effort you put into researching and analysing the results. Thank you!

Regards Riad Salih (talk) 19:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Arab-Barb

Hi thanks for creating this article. When we translate or borrow from other language wikis it’s a requirement to acknowledge the source. The best way to do this is to include it in your edit summary (e.g. “translated from de.wiki”) and there’s also a translation template you can add to the talk page. The article looks to me like it is largely a translation from fr.wiki. If you can confirm where material for this article was sourced I’ll add the template to the talk page for you if it is needed. Happy editing and please leave a message on my talk page if you need any help Mccapra (talk) 09:18, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey @Mccapra

Yes, it is. I was adding the template in the article at first, but I don't know why the bots deleted it or transferred it to the talk page.

Regards Riad Salih (talk) 12:34, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

great I’ll add it now thanks. Mccapra (talk) 18:34, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

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Schönberg Tower moved to draftspace

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Hi @Significa liberdade. Yes, I am currently working on it, and all the references are sourced from the original article in Dutch. I will address the missings and proceed to republish it. Regards Riad Salih (talk) 02:03, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

For your excellent History of rail transport in Algeria article! Chanaka L (talk) 06:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

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