User talk:ReverbDev
I am the ReverbGaming.com main developer. We provide FREE services that semi-emulate how many of the direct play CDROM based games that were popular in the MSN Gaming Zone. If you have a problem with me, email me or use MSN Messenger. Support@ReverbGaming.com ReverbDev (talk) 22:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Your accusations[edit]
Your concerns about User:TheRealFennShysa being "holier than thou" are misplaced. He was doing an appropriate edit in removing yours. According to Wikipedia policy, "Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam." Your edits clearly fit that description. The other editor was taking appropriate action in removing your addition. I appreciate your enthusiasm in wanting to edit Wikipedia, and hope that you'll find ways to do so where you're not presenting a conflict of interest. --Nat Gertler (talk) 02:18, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
- To answer your request on my web page - "I am trying to understand how to communicate to people who do use the wiki, where they can go to still have the same free fun they did before." - the answer is that you don't. You do not put links to your own website into Wikipedia articles. The argument that "external link number 3 on this page goes to a site where you can supposidly 'buy miniatures' (I went there and found nothing on Crimson Skies) which means its an advertising link placed there to make money" does not justify you posting your link; as the Wikipedia guidelines on spam state, "Inclusion of one spam link is not a reason to include another". If link #3 is problematic, then the proper thing to do is to remove that link. I understand your desire to promote what I'm sure you see as a useful service, but "Wikipedia is not a space for personal promotion or the promotion of products, services, Web sites, fandoms, ideologies, or other memes." (Edited to add: I should also note that the fact that whichever link you're concerned about goes to a page that doesn't have any Crimson Skies information does not make it inherently an illegitimate link; it may have been an accurate link to material that has since been removed from the site, in which case the proper thing to do is to leave the link in place, and if you have the time, try to use one of the Internet rollback services to locate the information that it was meant to link to.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- If you wish to understand why links to material no longer there are allowed to remain, see WP:LINKROT. If you wish to work to change the Wikipedia guidelines on Spam and on Conflict of Interest, see WP:POLICY to understand how these policies are arrived at and how they can be changed. If some other link exists that you don't think should, you may not be looking at an example of policy so much as the fact that the contents of Wikipedia are imperfect - that's much of what keeps so many editors busy. --Nat Gertler (talk) 01:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- To answer your request on my web page - "I am trying to understand how to communicate to people who do use the wiki, where they can go to still have the same free fun they did before." - the answer is that you don't. You do not put links to your own website into Wikipedia articles. The argument that "external link number 3 on this page goes to a site where you can supposidly 'buy miniatures' (I went there and found nothing on Crimson Skies) which means its an advertising link placed there to make money" does not justify you posting your link; as the Wikipedia guidelines on spam state, "Inclusion of one spam link is not a reason to include another". If link #3 is problematic, then the proper thing to do is to remove that link. I understand your desire to promote what I'm sure you see as a useful service, but "Wikipedia is not a space for personal promotion or the promotion of products, services, Web sites, fandoms, ideologies, or other memes." (Edited to add: I should also note that the fact that whichever link you're concerned about goes to a page that doesn't have any Crimson Skies information does not make it inherently an illegitimate link; it may have been an accurate link to material that has since been removed from the site, in which case the proper thing to do is to leave the link in place, and if you have the time, try to use one of the Internet rollback services to locate the information that it was meant to link to.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)