User talk:Piyush.bigboss
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September 2015[edit]
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Yoga. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.
If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a loss of editing privileges. Thank you. —SpacemanSpiff 19:27, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: Thanks for pointing me in right direction. I recognize that the topic I'm trying to discuss is going to be controversial among certain editors and so I have already gone through the three revert rule. I do not intend to get in any editing war. I have provided ample details in support of my changes on the talk page. However, none of the editors have tried to provide any reasoning or details of their disagreement.A consensus cannot be built merely by leaving one liner comments on talk page stating that one disagrees. That is not a constructive discussion and it only frustrates the editors with legitimate opinion who are trying to contribute in good faith.
- I have replied to you a few times because you are engaging in WP:OR and WP:Righting Great Wrongs. Ogress 19:52, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ogress Yes you replied but never clarified or explained your opinion. I realize that it can be time consuming but that logic applies to both of us. If I am spending hours to gather sources and document my opinion on talk page then the least I could expect for other editors is to have a constructive discussion if they disagree. You tend to quote WP help pages way too much without properly supporting your opinion. You seem to be an experienced editor so this might be happening in good faith, but I would highly recommend you to read (or revisit) WP:DE. Not that it applies to you point to point, but your responses frustrated me enough to look for help to address the situation.
- Listen, I explained to you in detail. Several times. Then I also linked to policy explaining it. I don't mean to be rude, but you are specifically stating repeatedly that you are here to fix the general pronunciation of yoga in the English-speaking world because it's based on a wrong understanding of Sanskrit, which you then demand only those who can understand devanagari and Sanskrit comment on. Then you state a completely incorrect understanding of Sanskrit in excruciating detail. Your Sanskrit teacher should be slapped for adding ignorance to the world if you took away from your lessons that Sanskrit has silent final vowels: do you realise that in the Rigveda, the final a you insist is silent often has the accent? Ogress 21:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- I never said anything about "Silent final vowels". That's your own understanding (or lack thereof). and "My Sanskrit teacher should be slapped"...really? I think this concludes our discussion. Piyush (talk) 22:03, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- You wrote a book about it on Talk:Yoga. "In case one is a native speaker and keeps oneself updated about the world (via travel or news), one would know that योग is being frequently mispronounced as योगा, usually by non-native speakers and seldom by urbanized natives. The mispronunciation is widespread and the audience of Wikipedia, a layman, needs to be educated on the pronunciation, because mispronunciation is widespread and it changes meaning. Expecting the layman to understand that the trailing "a" is not to be phonetically confused with आ ā is an unduly challenging expectation on the layman. It is but natural for a layman to pronounce "Yoga" as योगा, and "Yog" as योग." Ogress 22:05, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- I never said anything about "Silent final vowels". That's your own understanding (or lack thereof). and "My Sanskrit teacher should be slapped"...really? I think this concludes our discussion. Piyush (talk) 22:03, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- Listen, I explained to you in detail. Several times. Then I also linked to policy explaining it. I don't mean to be rude, but you are specifically stating repeatedly that you are here to fix the general pronunciation of yoga in the English-speaking world because it's based on a wrong understanding of Sanskrit, which you then demand only those who can understand devanagari and Sanskrit comment on. Then you state a completely incorrect understanding of Sanskrit in excruciating detail. Your Sanskrit teacher should be slapped for adding ignorance to the world if you took away from your lessons that Sanskrit has silent final vowels: do you realise that in the Rigveda, the final a you insist is silent often has the accent? Ogress 21:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ogress Yes you replied but never clarified or explained your opinion. I realize that it can be time consuming but that logic applies to both of us. If I am spending hours to gather sources and document my opinion on talk page then the least I could expect for other editors is to have a constructive discussion if they disagree. You tend to quote WP help pages way too much without properly supporting your opinion. You seem to be an experienced editor so this might be happening in good faith, but I would highly recommend you to read (or revisit) WP:DE. Not that it applies to you point to point, but your responses frustrated me enough to look for help to address the situation.