User talk:Pfbrunner

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Hello, Pfbrunner, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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First, the problem with the text you uploaded is that it's been published elsewhere. To be able to use that text, it would have to be released—not just permission given, but licensed for Wikipedia to do as it will with the text—by the holder of the copyright on the text.

Second, that doesn't guarantee that the article would stay in that condition. Any editor on Wikipedia is free to improve the article in any way they desire. So, even if he prefers a particular text, it's unlikely to stay as that version for long. (For more on this issue, see Wikipedia:Ownership of articles) —C.Fred (talk) 05:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More on the John Klemmer bio[edit]

Greetings! I saw the proposed John Klemmer bio that you posted on my talk page. Just doing a quick scan, a lot of it would have to go, as there are assertions made, e.g. about his innovativeness, that don't mention what critics consider him to be. Second, I don't see any indication of what independent sources you used in preparing the bio. My gut feeling is also, the way it's worded, it would get deleted as advertising relatively quickly. —C.Fred (talk) 21:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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On closer inspection, that text is not usable, because it is under copyright by Klemmer.[1] The Foundation would have to receive correspondence from Klemmer licensing that bio under GFDL for it to be usable. However, I don't see any particular justification to use the article wholesale; I think we're better served with an article made up of editors' text. —C.Fred (talk) 21:24, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]