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The official casting call from Paramount originally dated August 5th 2008[1], for the heroic main characters solicited applicants who were “Caucasian or any other ethnicity.”[2] This led to the four principal actors being Caucasian, only one of whom was trained in martial arts. Shyamalan originally offered the roles of Aang to Tae Kwon Do-trained Texan Noah Ringer; Sokka to Jackson Rathbone (Twilight); Katara to Nicola Peltz (Deck the Halls); and Zuko to Jesse McCartney. From December 10th 2008 [3] the casting of all the main leads with white actors in the Asian influenced Avatar universe, was leaked and triggered negative fan reaction marked by accusations of racism and a letter-writing campaign.

From December 16th 2008, A grassroots movement launches the “Saving the World with Postage” campaign, urging the public to write letters to producers Kennedy & Marshall at Paramount Pictures, and Shyamalan at his company, Blinding Edge Studios. Over 200 letters are ignored and returned to sender. [4][5]According to SciFi.com's readers, the casting of white actors in an Asian culture film is a "slap in the face for those loyal to the show."[6]"To see the live-action main cast be completely turned over to white actors was a slap in the face for those loyal to the show and by extension, for racially diverse people. Even further anger was because the movie is likely to stay in an Asian/Inuit-influenced world, but populated by white people. This is Orientalism."[7]

A report by Larry Carroll of MTV, On a 15th January interview, Rathbone dismissed the complaints, saying "I think it's one of those things where I pull my hair up, shave the sides, and I definitely need a tan. It's one of those things where, hopefully, the audience will suspend disbelief a little bit."[8][9] [10] The accusations of "yellowface" and "racebending" were made in various internet sites.

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On 20th January 2009, Asian American artist Derek Kirk Kim creates a petition of industry professionals who plan to boycott the film and writes a negative response to the "racist" casting, saying[11]

"What if someone made a “fantasy” movie in which the entire world was built around African culture. Everyone is wearing ancient African clothes, African hats, eating traditional African food, writing in an African language, living in African homes, all encompassed in an African landscape...but everyone is white."

Amongst them were Giancarlo Volpe[12], Avatar: The Last Airbender director, "This blog entry sums up my feelings exactly. Thank you, Derek Kirk Kim for spelling out the situation so eloquently." and Gene Yang[13](author of "American Born Chinese" and National Book Award nominee) about the casting: "It's like a white Asian fetishist's wet dream. All the Asian culture they want, without any of the Asian people."

23rd January 2009, there was an announcement, on the Daily Pensylvanian, announcing a general open casting call for extras. [14] Deedee Rickets, the casting director for the film, said she is looking to cast men and women ages 18 to 65 and children ages six to 15. Casting officials are seeking candidates with military or martial arts experience, athletes, gymnasts and people of various races and cultures.

- "We want you to dress in traditional cultural ethnic attire," she said. "If you're Korean, wear a kimono. If you're from Belgium, wear lederhosen."

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On 29th January, Naomi Tarlow wrote a piece called "Protesters oppose "whitewashing" in new Shyamalan film".[15] This is also the first reported mention of the blog called Aang Ain't White's Journal, on a hardcopy newspaper.

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On the 7th of February 2009, there was another protest outside of the second Philadelphia casting call for background extras.

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- [ EXTRAS ]

- Physically fit MEN & WOMEN 18-85 yr. Old – Boys & Girls 6-16 yr Old.

- - NEAR EASTERN, MIDDLE EASTERN, FAR EASTERN, ASIAN, MEDITERRANEAN & LATINO ETHNIC GROUPS….

- No experience necessary – Martial Arts & Military Training a PLUS!

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- - At every turn and new article written about the film, accusations of racebending followed.[18]

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In February 2009, Dev Patel, who possesses a 1st Dan Black Belt in Tae Kwon Do[19], replaced McCartney, whose tour dates conflicted with a boot camp scheduled for the cast to train in martial arts.In a Variety interview.[20]

- "Jesse had tour dates that conflicted with a boot camp I always hold on my films, and where the actors here have to train for martial arts," Shyamalan said.

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- Patel was "already one of the guys I was interested in. Then I saw 'Slumdog Millionaire,' and the kid just grew in my eyes," he said.

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- - 16th February 2009: Casting call for adult principal roles seeks: “Chinese and Korean actors- MEN ONLY, age 30-60.” [22]

- - 25th February 2009: Casting call for backdrop/extras of “Mongolian, Cambodian or Laotian heritage” in Arlington VA, as well as extras of “Cambodian, Mongolian, Chinese, Korean and Thai Descent” in Flushing NY will be held on March first.[23]

- - July 2009: Dao Le, Animatic Editor of the Avatar: The Last Airbender is interviewed in San Francisco’s 94.1 KPFA radio, stating that he would not be working on the movie production as a cultural consultant, and said that the Chinese calligraphy would be replaced with gibberish.

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- It’s been a huge disappointment to hear about the casting for Avatar’s live-action movie. The show was heavily influenced by Asian culture, some of the characters were even modeled after Asian members of the crew...But now, with the pre-dominantly white cast, it feels like all the Asian/Eastern influences, origins, what have you, were just a backdrop for these characters.

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Proposed deletion of Isaac Jin Solstein[edit]

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Isaac Jin Solstein[edit]

I didn't yet have a chance to thank you for preparing an article about my son. I'm sure you understand why I took the initiative to make the fixes I did. I was surprised to see it from the start, finding out about it via Google Alerts, but finding it that first time with a deletion notice posted. Your most recent fixes definitely help. Getting the hang of both the scripting and standards here takes some doing, doesn't it? It also seems to be much better from the 'conflict of interest' point of view, if you and others improve this further, though I will continue to stay tuned and look for better, more verifiable references. Eric Solstein (talk) 18:53, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I'm still learning the ways of wikipedia myself. I should have posted a temporary article on my page, but got a bit enthusiastic. The fact that there was nothing on the actor and to change matters.

Then I was doing major editing in the Yellowface article and thought to concentrate on that when I should have added to the Isaac Jin Solstein article some more.

I'll do some more research regarding the roles. Perhaps adding the Forestburgh Playhouse, in which Isaac had the roles, as that seems to be the major hiccup.

Would you be able to contact them regarding the rights on data from their website? Is it for common use? In the meantime I can start a basic article.

Nemogbr (talk) Nemogbr 00:38, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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edits[edit]

Looking at your edits man, i have some concerns http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Nemogbr these edit are all in good faith, however there are seeming to be some recurring issues The Isaac Jin Solstein article you have created has Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources issues. The Keong Sim article has major Wikipedia:Copyright problems issues. also edits such as the one your adding the Urban dictionary edit on Racebending tend to not go over well, Urban Dictionary is like wikipedia. any can Add words and add definitions with no oversight! it is not a Wikipedia:Reliable sources for citing definitions, please be aware of wikipedia policies. i have gotten my hand slapped too for stuff so do not worry just be careful ;-) Weaponbb7 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:24, 4 January 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. Will be more careful in future.

Nemogbr 01:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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Yellowface[edit]

Have overhauled the Yellowface article and substantially expanded upon it. Please check and assess.

Added more history and current practice. Linked to Yellow Peril and Hays Code Separated and expanded filmography: Early Hollywood, Late 20th Century/after Hay's Code was abolished, 21st Century.

Wanted to create a new page for whitewashing and racebending, which keeps getting deleted.

Nemogbr (talk) 18:04, 18 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 18:04, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


I do agree that the Yellowface article may need to have a separate entry for racebending.

I attempted to improve an article for racebending, but it was deleted. I then created my own, but that too was deleted.

The reasons were supposedly due to a neologism created by Avatar: The Last Airbender fans.

I currently have it on my userpage and you are welcome to peruse and perhaps give pointed on how to improve it for publication.

Nemogbr (talk) 14:45, 20 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 14:45, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Racebending article: why delete?[edit]

I posted the article along with the historical usage of the terminology.

Patrick Stewart (1997)- Racebended into the role of Othello. They turned a white actor to play Othello, but not in blackface, instead the rest of the cast were played by black actors. You could not term it as "whitewashing", the main character was the one turned white, but the other roles ended up with black actors. In that case, Othello became black, but the cast ended up with more black actors than the original.

For instance: Would you call the casting of "David Carradine" for KungFu yellowface, whitewashing or racebending? Was the main character whitewashed when yellowface makeup was never used? But it is still regarded as a prime example of yellowface. Strictly speaking the main role was "whitewashed", for white Americans, but the Asian American acting community would be the first to state that it provided work for many of them.

Or would the term "Racebending" be more appropriate, although the neologism was never used to describe it?

The Further reading links does indicate how Tiger Woods and Barrack Obama were made more palatable for white Americans. The term used for them was "whitewash". Litigation Essentials used the term racebending.

Robert Downey Jr. (2008) - Parody of blackface, again white actor racebending into the black character. The film is a complete parody of Hollywood's penchant for changing races in order to cast white actors.

The article needed improvements, but I thought that was how wikipedia works; not deleting a work, because you do not agree with was being stated.

Perhaps you could also show me which articles are being "damaged" by my editing:

I admit that all these pages were created due to my overhaul of the "Yellowface" article, but they did not exist within wikipedia and people would have had to look elsewhere for the information.

Nemogbr 16:35, 16 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr 16:35, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I've reverted your latest edits at Yellowface, as the source your provided [1] does not mention the term "racebending" eitther on that page, or any of the pages linked from that site - half of which are dead links, anyway. As to the second instance, the mentions are so passing or fleeting (racebending is not the subject of the articles, just a passing adjective - and in one instance, it's only used in a headline, not the article text) that it appears to be a way to shoehorn in a reference to a fansite of dubious notability. You're going to have to do a LOT better on your sourcing if you expect any of this to remain in the article. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 16:09, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


The term has been used by Mica Pollock regarding school children in California.
George Sefa Dei in regards to new forms of covert racism.
Litigation essentials.com journals as it pertains to Barrack Obama.
Colour mute society. Colour blind racism, laissez faire racism, covert racism, symbolic racism and racebending are all terms in use. THey may not be of use in normal conversations or even the vast majority of the media. They are still valid.
Nemogbr (talk) 16:36, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your say-so isn't enough. Without valid citable references from independent reliable sources in the articles, it's not going in. It's that simple. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 16:38, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The sources are in the discussion page, along with links to the books, The journal from litigation essentials are valid as a source according to wikipedia rules. It is not just my "say so". --Nemogbr (talk) 16:43, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The talk page is not the article. You want it in the article, then your source it IN THE ARTICLE. If you do not source it properly in the article, it will be removed. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 16:52, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I thought you might find this interesting[edit]

http://www.angryasianman.com/2010/01/and-harrison-ford-as-dr-chen.html Shaolin Samurai (talk) 06:03, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Last Airbender edits[edit]

I noticed that on The Last Airbender page you and Dylan0513 are engaged in a bit of an edit war over the Roger Ebert and Frank Marshall statements and you've both violated WP:3RR so rather than continue to revert and correct each others edits we could all take some time to disscuss the matter on the talk page, maybe then we could straighten things out and come to some sort of agreement. I Feel Tired (talk) 20:31, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


The additions of Roger Ebert and Frank Marshall have the appropriate links and pertain to the casting controversy. 

Dylan0513

would prefer not to include the details and ignore the fans.

Passing it off as a blip in the system, when many fans of the show are calling for a boycott, is deception.

I have also posted this on Talk:The Last Airbender[[2]].

Nemogbr (talk) 22:08, 18 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 22:08, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well then by all means you bringing up these issues on the talk page was the right thing to do. I Feel Tired (talk) 00:21, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Just like the last time, my posts are being ignored by Dylan0513. If he will not cooperate by engaging in dialogue. Please undo his changes.

Nemogbr (talk) 00:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 00:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


To I Feel Tired (talk)

Dylan0513 insists on deleting the additions from Roger Ebert and Frank Marshall. The producer of the film and a pundit for 200 newspapers are of more importance than one actor.

He claims to desire more opinions. How can there be more opinions when the entry is already deleted?

Please re-instate the Controversy sub-section and then people who see it can express their view on the matter.

Nemogbr (talk) 13:57, 20 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 13:57, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will ask you again to cease adding a controversy section and adding those statements while consensus has not been reached. I have replied to every one of your comments on the talk page, you are the one who is ignoring dialogue. -Dylan0513 (talk) 19:20, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I posted a copy on The Last Airbender talk page.


Hello:

I thought to contact you as an Admin, as I seem to have ended up in an Edit war with Dylan0513 (talk)

The page has a casting section, which had been expanded with some quotes regarding the film producer, Frank Marshall and film pundit Roger Ebert. Dylan0513 did not like the idea of having those quotes in page and deleted them. I disagreed. I eventually created a Controversy section, which he also disagrees with and deletes, although some of the previous editors preferred the idea.

Upon the leaked names of the main cast members, Avatar fans campaigned for a change in casting to reflect the ethnicity or the appearance of the characters. As of January 2010, even though the film has not been released, there is still an ongoing controversy in the Avatar fan community over the casting choices and boycott websites, for the film, have been set up.[24] On April 20th, Frank Marshall stated in his Twitter account that the casting was complete and that they did not discriminate against anyone. Finally, that he was done talking about it. [25]

- Recently, Movie critic Roger Ebert called the whitewashing of the cast as wrong and asked, why Paramount and Shyamalan would go out of their way to offend the fans? He clarified by stating that there were many young Asian actors capable of playing the parts. [26]

I perused the controversy sections in Dragonball Evolution and 21 (2008 film). They both contained more information regarding their casting controversies. It would be a disservice if statements from these two persons were left from the section.

It has already been pointed out that we are breaking the rules, but further discussions seem to be of no use, we are at an impasse. An Admin to make a judgement would be better.

Thank you, Nemogbr (talk) 22:50, 21 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 22:50, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


For a film that has not been released, it is receiving plenty of coverage in the internet and there are 141,000 entries, regarding the controversy if you check via google. Various blogs like racialicious, 8 Asians, Geneyang, Angry Black woman and others have mentioned the so-called racebending and any article pertaining to the film, like in Variety magazine, ends up with dissenting voices from pro-casters and anti-casters.

Both 21, Tropic Thunder and Dragonball Evolution mentions the controversy in those films, but Last Airbender does not. Not mentioning the controversy is a disservice to the fans and those looking for information. You end up with only half the information, making the article more an advertisement for the movie, rather than a neutral source.


Nemogbr (talk) 00:50, 22 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 00:50, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Covert racism and Laissez-Faire Racism[edit]

Covert racism and Laissez-Faire Racism

Hello:

I spotted your username in the Rodney King article and thought to ask for assistance.

These pages had problems with lack of citations and neutrality. Not sure how you can be neutral in articles about racism, but have attempted to make them less inflammatory.

I have recently been making edits and adding links and citations to the articles:

I was doing more research on a page I wrote called racebending, which was deleted, as a neologism, twice by a "deletionist". It has some popularity with Avatar: The Last Airbender fans. I currently have it saved in my userpage and you are welcome to have a look and perhaps give some pointers to make it ready for publication; without being deleted again.

Regards, Nemogbr (talk) 13:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 13:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


Hello:

You were recommended by The Thing Vandalize me and thought to ask for assistance.

These pages had problems with lack of citations and neutrality. I have attempted to make them less inflammatory and indicated on the article that they for the most part, pertain to the majority of the United States. Both would be too limited in scope to include other cultures.

I have recently been making edits and adding links and citations to the articles, I think improving an article is better than deleting them. Covert racism looks to have attracted the ire of a few users who are BNP supporters, Fascist British National Party, so I thought not to ask for their views. THey may have a more skewed outlook on racism.

I was doing more research on a page I wrote called racebending, which was deleted, as a neologism, twice by a "deletionist". It has some popularity with Avatar: The Last Airbender fans. I currently have it saved in my userpage and you are welcome to have a look and perhaps give some pointers to make it ready for publication; without being deleted again.

From what I can read, all pertain to words that are being used in academia and gaining use in mainstream media.

  • Racebending is gaining in use with 43,700 results in google.
  • Laissez-Faire Racism 110,000 results.
  • covert racism 876,000 results.

Nemogbr (talk) 17:56, 21 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 17:56, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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January 2010[edit]

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Sourcing at The Last Airbender[edit]

Hello Nemogbr. As you may recall, this article was recently discussed by admins due to a dispute about the importance of the race of the characters. Please note that your recent edit added a link to racebending.com, which appears to be an activist site whose members hold a particular opinion about the movie. Fan sites and forum sites are not considered WP:Reliable sources. I suggest that you consider removing this from the article. If a newspaper or a magazine had commented on the fan opinion, that would be different. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, your current edit-warring over the cast not including non-whites is in error, as you have been shown. Your continued attempts to change the discussion by changing the text to read "main cast" is also not appropriate, as the reference link for that sentence only refers to an *extras* casting call. Unless you can provide another link, I ask you to stop edit-warring over an issue that you are incorrect about. In addition, your blind reversions are also breaking an internal link to the corrected subsection title on Yellowface - please stop. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 18:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you are going to change the text, then be accurate.
  • The original cast members were all white: Peltz, Ringer, Rathbone and McCartney. Caucasian or any other ethnicity. W
  • The Extras adverts pertained to all ethnicities. NEAR EASTERN, MIDDLE EASTERN, FAR EASTERN,ASIAN, MEDITERRANEAN & LATINO Ethnic groups.

The fans protested after they found out about racebending of the main cast.

The way you edited the paragraph did not show all the data.

The current page by ChaosMaster is more accurate.

Nemogbr (talk) 19:42, 10 February 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 19:42, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stereotypes of East Asians in the Western world[edit]

Thank you for your contribution to the article however I undid your edits as there are lots of original research in them. As for creating a header for Asexual Martial Artists, that is not relevant enough for its own subtopic. The article is broken up as general stereotypes of males and stereotypes of females. Perhaps that stereotype is true for Asian actors specifically in Hollywood. I would find another way to integrate it and without all the original research in it. Eros2250 (talk) 01:44, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I took both your ideas and I think I made a fair compromise between the two of you. Let me know, I think its right to the point and without the original research that it had. Eros2250 (talk) 01:58, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


It has been noted the power the media holds and Hollywood in particular.

I have not been able to find the sources yet. Many were from The Slanted Screen documentary. It was an adjunct to my work in the yellowface article.

Strictly speaking emasculation and asexuality would be different terminologies. That's why I thought a different sections would be preferred. The emasculated East Asian would be the nerdy/wimpy Asian expounded upon by Hollywood propaganda, whilst the Asexual martial artist (usually the foreigner) is the other side of the coin.

I think The Slanted Screen can be a source as it was effective at describing the stereotypes.

Nemogbr (talk) 09:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 09:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The thing that concerns me is that I don't think the article should be cluttered with too many subtopics as the article then starts looking messy. Emasculation and asexuality can be grouped together as one subtopic because they both relate to how western socities perceive the masculinity of Asian males as downplayed. Eros2250 (talk) 13:57, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Media Action Network for Asian Americans[edit]

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I had just started a page on MANAA a watchdog group for Asian American issues, an all-volunteer and non-profit group. It was tagged with a speedy deletion tag. I also placed a {stub} on the page and now instead of being able to improve the article it has deleted.

I have already posted other articles in which MANAA is mentioned. IF you search for the term "Media Action Network for Asian Americans", you will find a number of them. Surely the fact that the organisation is mentioned in other articles, indicates that they are of some importance?

' was an article about a company or organization that didn't assert the importance or significance of its subject.'

I am also providing several outside links showing some of their work.

Please have MANAA re-instated, along with the re-direct page Media Action Network for Asian Americans, so I can continue improving the article.

Thank you.

Nemogbr (talk) 07:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 07:59, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the article to your userspace for you to work on. It's available at User:Nemogbr/MANAA. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:14, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion of neologisms, POV pushing and edit-warring[edit]

Hello Nemogbr, please cease from using Wikipedia as a platform for promotion of the neologism racebending or any website. Wikipedia must maintain a neutral point of view and we don't allow pushing for any particular point of view. You need to backup your claims with independent reliable sources, none of the links you provided for the disputed edits are valid in this regard. Neologisms cannot be used if not already used by reliable third-party sources. Your edits are being discussed at the content noticeboard. I urge you to stop edit warring and reconsider the propriety of your edits. Continued edit-warring and breach of the 3RR rule may result in a block, please discuss instead. -Cenarium (talk) 23:08, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have answered these accusations in the content noticeboard

Nemogbr (talk) 01:17, 13 February 2010 (UTC) --Nemogbr (talk) 01:17, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

TEX AVERY GRADUATED in 1926[edit]

Whomever is changing the date of Tex Avery's graudation to 1927 is WRONG. I teach here at North Dallas High School in Dallas, TX. The school library has the 1926 yearbook with Tex Avery's picture in it, with cartoons he drew in it and he graduated in 1926. I cannot help it that there is a published source that is WRONG. Please understand, this is a FACT. 1926.

GMARKLEY (talk) 19:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)Gordon MarkleyGMARKLEY (talk) 19:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC) North Dallas High School 3120 N. Haskell Ave. Dallas, TX 75204[reply]

Fair use rationale for File:Barbar Jean Wong1954.jpg[edit]

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June 2010[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Whitewashing, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 22:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


What original research? The sources are already in the links provided. Please cast your "critical eye" on them.

Nemogbr (talk) 22:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rescue[edit]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Armageddon theology WritersCramp (talk) 13:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Philippine WikiCon[edit]

You are invited to the 3rd Philippine Wiki Conference (WikiCon) on May 26, 2012 9am-1pm at the co.lab.exchange in Pasig City. Please fill this form should you signify interest. --Exec8 (talk) 17:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed blackout in protest of RA 10175[edit]

Dear Nemogbr,

Greetings!

As a Filipino Wikipedian, I hope you are aware of the passage of Republic Act No. 10175, also known as the Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012, which was signed into law by President Benigno Aquino III on September 12, 2012. Currently, there is a discussion on the Tambayan, the noticeboard for Philippines-related topics, about a proposed blackout of the English Wikipedia in the Philippines in order to protest the passage of RA 10175, similar to the blackout against SOPA and PIPA held earlier this year. I feel that your input on the subject will definitely help in the discussion.

Please feel free to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines#The Cybercrime Prevention Act, and I hope your input will help the Filipino Wikipedia community determine which is the best course of action against this law. Similarly, we hope to get as much input from as many Wikipedians as possible.

Thank you and maraming salamat po!

Kind regards,

Sky Harbor (talk) 07:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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