User talk:MrScorch6200/2014 June

June 2014 Conversations (post at the bottom please)

Kudos

That was particularly deft and diplomatic work in this edit. Good work! Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:02, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Seems like it calmed everyone down. MrScorch6200 (talk | ctrb) 20:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Favor

By commenting after the DRN talk thread has been hatted, you are inviting further responses. Would you please consider removing or striking the comment? Thanks! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 19:22, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

OK KBob, I striked the comment. I think it was just a way of showing that I read the... the..... whatever that was. :) MrScorch6200 (talk | ctrb) 19:28, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes I know your intention was innocent. I was concerned about unintended consequences. Thanks for the favor. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 15:51, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

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♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ 話 ♪} ߷ _{♀ 投稿 ♀} 07:53, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks KBob! MrScorch6200 (talk | ctrb) 16:27, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Topsy

Re: "you have not supplied a source backing up your claims" -----> You may have missed "Topsy: The Startling Story of the Crooked-tailed Elephant" by Michael Daly page 319 (a whole book on the actual event) which states this was not part of the War of Currents. Method of execution were probably chosen by owners, Frederick Thompson and Elmer Dundy. They do imply spite on the part of Edison. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 20:46, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

@Fountains of Bryn Mawr: Daly is just one author against a multitude of other sources. I looked at his webpage and saw, "Topsy the elephant was innocent!" Which is a clear POV on the incident. That discredits him as a reliable source. MrScorch6200 (talk | ctrb) 20:58, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Nope, that's not a valid reading of WP:RS per WP:BIASED. We weren't even debating whether Topsy was innocent. Its a detailed source and there is no reason not to refer to it per its coverage of the events of that period and whether they were associated with the War on Currents. AC/DC: The Savage Tale of the First Standards War by Tom McNichol reaches pretty much the same conclusions BTW. The thing that is not helpful is citing sources that are brief, non-authoritative, with obvious factual errors such as these[1][2]. Examples of what wrong with those sources were given but in short, when a source says Tesla built Edison an AC motor, that's when you discard it. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 21:07, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

DRN for Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard#Kurgan

I read your comment, but the discussion was closed by the time I could respond. In the future, I'll make sure folks talk things out ad nauseum on relevant talk pages before referring to DRN. On that note, any pointers on how to actually navigate DRN? I really would like to help as I feel I have a cool head and a skillset for fostering communication :-) please ping me when replying ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ 話 ♪} ߷ _{♀ 投稿 ♀} 02:38, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

@Solarra: There's a good essay here and if you haven't read this yet, that is a formal guide. Generally we use policies and guidelines that apply to the particular dispute that we are moderating to help the parties come to a resolution (which is usually a compromise of some sort). Remember that they come to us when they can't resolve it themselves, so we have to guide them to a resolution. Always keep a cool head. A good way to say that an editor did something wrong (like violate a guideline of some sort) is not to address the editor directly, but everyone as a whole. i.e. Say, "You guys need to remember to follow x policy," instead of "whoever, you need to follow x policy." Saying the latter may make the opposing party feel that you're on their side, which is the last thing you want! Always stay impartial as best you can. Also, I recommend just following a case at first to get a feel for how experienced volunteers are handling it. Another good way to work your way up to DRN is to volunteer at Third Opinion first, which will start you out with small content disputes then work your way up to more complicated ones at DRN. Some cases will be difficult to the point where a second volunteer may help, or they may be as easy as a simple misunderstanding! If you need anything please ask me or another volunteer, we love to help others! If you are moderating a dispute and have a question about how to go about doing something, or just need some extra help, ask on the DRN talk page. Have fun! MrScorch6200 (talk | ctrb) 03:12, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Closing AfDs

Hi. When closing AfDs as 'redirect' please remember to add the appropriate 'R from...' template, in particular for schools: {{R from school}} to the redirect page so that it automatically adds the appropriate message and populates the school redirect cat. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

ANI

Fountains of Bryn Mawr has taken 3 editors to ANI over the War of Currents article, myself included. Your input could be helpful.-Atlantictire (talk) 03:40, 1 July 2014 (UTC)