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Welcome[edit]

Hello Michael Liao Sax, and Welcome to Wikipedia!

Welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you enjoy the encyclopedia and want to stay. As a first step, you may wish to read the Introduction.

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Michael Liao Sax, good luck, and have fun.PamD 14:22, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome, but be careful[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Here is a suggested reading: WP:SECONDARY. The gist of this guideline is that Wikipedia prefers citations to reviews and books, not journal references. My guess is that hundreds, maybe thousands of papers have been published on "gold clusters" So please reconsider your recent addition to gold cluster by relying on a different kind of sources. If you want to discuss this matter, feel free to ask. --Smokefoot (talk) 23:40, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We don't care about your school assignment[edit]

WP is not a dumping ground for school assignments. If you or your teacher does not like that fact, that's your problem. There are procedures that teachers can do to coordinate assignments with WP, but they have obviously not been followed in this instance.

If you can't bother to learn how to use Talk pages correctly, don't expect to be taken seriously.

I have reported on your situation at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Student editing Gold cluster to get a good grade. Choor monster (talk) 12:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello from the Wiki Education Foundation[edit]

Hi Michael,

I'm Ryan with the Wiki Education Foundation. We help classes who want to work with Wikipedia. I'd be happy to talk with your instructor about what's going on and how we can help in the future. Just have him/her email ryan[at]wikiedu[dot]org.

The problem is not that you're working on a school assignment, to be clear. The problem is that there are no special rules for student work, so asking other editors not to edit on a site that's supposed to be collaborative is going to upset people. Thankfully, because it's a wiki, your work is still available even if it's removed. Just click the little "view history" link at the top of a page and you can see all the work everybody has done. Your instructor can also see your work by checking your contribution history. Each one of those lines has a "diff" link which will show exactly what you added. If it's important to you that the content remain in the article, requesting that people leave it alone is not going to help. Instead, you could ask people for advice on how to improve it. @Choor monster, Smokefoot, and Ian (Wiki Ed): If Michael wants to push forward, would you be willing to provide additional feedback about his edits?

Again, please connect me to your instructor when you can. Thanks. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:26, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As a follow-up idea, you might also consider working in a sandbox. There's a link in the top-right corner of the page. It's the only place you can be sure your edits can remain until the end of the quarter. We recommend all new users use the sandbox to develop content before moving it into articles anyway. Some basic rules like copyright still apply, but other than that it's your space for experimentation. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:05, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Get your teacher involved[edit]

Hi there: sorry that you are having a difficult experience using Wikipedia for your homework assignment. It is not your problem, so dont worry about it. Tell your teacher that he/she cannot expect you to contribute without their participation. --Smokefoot (talk) 13:57, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

talk pages etc[edit]

If you're adding comments to talk pages, please take the trouble to follow the conventions:

  • add messages at the bottom not the top
  • give a section heading
  • sign your comment using ~~~~.

That way your comments are more likely to be read, and less likely to irritate people. I hope you'll stay around and edit Wikipedia after your assignment: it's an international encyclopedia, not a school workshop, so your school grades are not a priority for other editors. I hope your professor will understand this if you direct him/her to Wikipedia:Education_program/Educators for more information. Happy Editing. PamD 14:29, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 2015[edit]

Stop icon

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

  • I just received a note on my Talk page from MLS who has agreed to stop (and this time using Talk pages properly). Very good, because I was in the midst of reporting you to WP:AN3, and you would probably have been blocked. Choor monster (talk) 20:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

Information icon Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:

  1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment; or
  2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button ( or ) located above the edit window.

This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.

Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 20:54, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]