User talk:Mets501/Archive 4

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RegExTypoFix - Thanks

Thanks for the suggestion! "Noteable" has been added into 0.1 which was just released a few minutes ago. You will also be mentioned in the newsletter =D. Keep em comming! --mboverload @ 22:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

my RfA

Thanks for your opinions in my RfA. Ultimately, the request did not pass, with a vote of (43/16/7). But your honest opinion was appreciated and I'll just keep right on doing what I do. Maybe I'll see ya around -- I'll be here!
Cheers! - CheNuevara 17:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

"Digital Violin" link in Violin

Per your request, removed this link; not appropriate. (No offense to "BAH".) Also split section into proper categories ("Further reading" and "External links"). +ILike2BeAnonymous 18:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

my RfA

Thanks for your opinions on my RfA. With a final vote of (62/0/1), my RfA passed, and I am now an Administrator. I will work hard to ensure that the tools entrusted to me will not be abused, and will wield my mop proudly.
Happy editing! --Firsfron of Ronchester 22:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion#Alto flute → Western concert flute

Could you explain what you mean: Keep per nom? The nomination was to delete the redirect. —Mets501 (talk) 12:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Apologies, meant to be delete. I think I must have expressed my opinion on too many XFDs that day or something. Vote changed and noted as changed. Viridae ^Talk 12:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Highway's RfA

Flower power!

Request for Adminship

Thank you for contributing to my my request for adminship. Although I wasn't promoted to admin status, with a withdrawn vote count of 14/27/14, I am very happy with the response I received from my fellow Wikipedians. I was pleasantly suprised at the support, and was touched by it. I will also work harder on preventing disputes and keeping cool under stress. Hopefully I will re-apply soon and try again for the mop. Thanks again, H ig hway ^{Return to Oz...} 13:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Christmas comes early for RegExTypoFix users

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35 lines added in all

Well it's 2 AM on West Coast USA. California, homies. We all surf (even the 8 billion illegal immigrants). Los Angeles is just like they show it in GTA: San Andreas (but with more hookers). Oh yeah, and we only have one season. We call it "perfect".

Anyway, it is RETF ~~Christmas~~ Secular Celebration Day, and I'm not failing to deliver. I'm saying good bye to converting that whole list over. It's full of misspellings that aren't misspellings and words that aren't ever misspelled. From now on this is my method for finding new words:

Spellcheck a random word from the existing list
Open any article where it corrects more than 1 word
Load it into Microsoft Word and spellcheck
See how many times it shows up in Wikipedia using AWB
If it shows up more than 6 times I'll put it into dictionary.com to make sure it's not a real word
Integrate all versions of a word into regular expressions using dictionary.com as a reference
<datagridFAR find="\b(E|e)nvrionmen(t|ts|tal|tally|talist|talists)\b" replacewith="$1nvironmen$2" />

You can do this too and get thanked in the section below! It really works well!

Shoutouts!

This is a new section dedicated to thanking people who found problems or suggested new word(s). PLEASE do this, even with one false positive. And please suggest new words, that's how it's going to expand.
Removed

"eminent" corrected to "imminent" Thanks to Guinnog for finding this.

"Calender" corrected to "calendar". calender is a word. Thanks to Alphachimp. Major props.

Added

"noteable" now corrects to "notable". Thanks to Mets, keep it up!

Fixed

"gracefuly" is the wrong spelling. it's "gracefully" - Thanks to r b-j, who reported this even though he doesn't use RETF!

Download

You can get the latest version, 0.1.01, here. --mboverload @

Wickethewok's RFA

Thanks for your support on my RFA. The final vote count was (61/9/3), so I am now an administrator. Feel free to let me know how I'm doing at any point in time or if you need anything. Once again, thank you. Wickethewok 16:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

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"But mboverload, you ALREADY sent the weekly newsletter!"

Well this is important, so suck it up.

RegExTypoFix is now completely built into AutoWikiBrowser

Yes, that's right. My little project has now been integrated into Wikipedia's most famous utility. This expands my reach to around ~250 active users!

But mboverload, what does this mean? - It means that Wikipedia is going to suck less! Yay!
What do I do? - Download the latest version of AWB and go to More Options > Enable RegExTypoFix. Then go to then in the Start tab > Summary dropdown box select RegExTypoFix
What happened to including your name in it? How am I going to praise you with every edit? You mean "mboverload's RegExTypoFix"? Oh, just stick it in there, and complain on the AWB talkpage if you want my name in there standard =P.
How did this come about? Why wasn't I told? - Because it was secret. I have known about this for about a week I think. Putting my typofixing into AWB was suggested in the talk page, however people talking about including spellchecking in AWB has gone back awhile. Martin, the creator and only developer of AWB, informed me and I was absolutely flattered. I now have developer access to AWB so I can update AWB with the latest RETF without having to bother him.
What about updates and the newsletter?
- All updates are just going to be small files with the latest new words and fixes. When AWB updates just throw out the file until I release the next supplemental update.
- I will be releasing the full RegExTypoFix, however it's going to be in the format that AWB uses it and not in its settings xml format. It's way easier to read, though.
- You'll still be getting the newsletter, full of keen insights into the wiki hivemind and commentary on mind-body meta relationships.
mboverload, how long HAVE you worked on RETF anyway? I estimate 50 hours. Using my most accurate method of finding and verifying typos nets me 20 new lines an hour. This does NOT include the hours I've spent testing it.
Where can I find a list of typos to fix? User:Mboverload/RegExTypoFix/full
Whore-much? Silence you republican neo-con communist hippie! --mboverload @ 09:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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My RfA and your vote

Hello Mets,
Thanks for participating in my RFA! Ultimately, no consensus was reached, but I still appreciate the fact that you showed up to add in your two cents. I noticed your primary criticism was my lack of article edits....well, you'll be happy to know I don't plan on reapplying (or accepting a nom) until I have 1500 article edits. You can feel free to talk to me about it or add some advice on my improvement page.

Sincerely, The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me)

Your answer to Q1 of the RfA

Did you mean to say that you'd like the ability to close RfA's? This suggests (incorrectly, I presume) that you do not know that closing Requests for Adminship is mainly a task for bureaucrats, -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 11:32, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstars

Hey Highway, I was just stopping by to let you know that users using Popups cannot hover over your barnstars and see the "alt" text, instead they just see the image link page. (I know this is true with Firefox, not sure about IE) —Mets501 (talk) 12:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what to do about the problem. I'm using IE, so I'm not aware of the other problems. I'll probably add the the captions and barnstars to a user page. Thanks for pointing this out, H ig hway ^{Return to Oz...} 12:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

No need to apologize to me! I was just pointing it out (and it also looks like you just now got another barnstar below!). Writing the captions is a good way. You could try playing around with {{click}} if you want., although I'm not sure if you can get anywhere with that (perhaps that template with a self-link so that Wikipedia won't render it as a link?) —Mets501 (talk) 12:26, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I have a full size trophy case here. Thank you for pointing it out, and good luck in your RfA. :) H ig hway ^{Return to Oz...} 13:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Request

You have a substantial amount of support, why I dont know, but it is clear your RFA will pass. This, admittedly, dissapoints me, as I strongly believe you are unfit for administative powers and responsibilities. However, I respectfully ask you to restore my oppose vote. It was not made in bad faith, which is ludicrous, and it will be restored, whether you like it or not, when the block is over. Regarding this nonsense about sockpuppets, I have never used sockpuppets. Repeating this lie is tantamount to personal attacks. I switched accounts due to harassment. "new user" 20:46, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey Mets,

I've blocked "new user" for now, as the original account was supposed to be temporarily blocked; block evasion is itself a blockable. I saw your note on the user's talk page; please remember to keep a level head, and don't respond in kind to his taunts. Clearly, he's trying to goad you. Don't let him.

Happy editing and good luck with the RfA! :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 21:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, as you can see on the RfA, the recent activity has attracted some attention, garnering you some fresh Support votes. In fact, Freesyle/Ki's oppose reason was so silly that I really wonder if he didn't actually want to persuade people to vote support, by presenting a really poor "Straw Man" argument. And it's not as if he tried to hide who he was, even. It's just odd. Anyway, happy editing! :) --Firsfron of Ronchester 21:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

August 6th, 2006 WP:RETF update

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Hey guys. Before I do anything, I have to thank all these people who have helped me make RETF more bug-free via my challenge to them on the Language noticeboard. Some were redundant lines, and some were words that probably never appear in Wikipedia, but as I said, I don't want any false positives in RETF.

User:ColourBurst for finding 7 lines to fix
User:Road Wizard for finding another 13 lines to fix!
User:MeltBanana for finding 6 lines
User:Skittle for finding 3 lines
User:Nunh-huh for finding 1 line

THANKS GUYS! Now for the fixes and suggestions put on the RETF page:

'behaviour' is a legitimate UK English spelling --Guinnog
'councellor' to 'councillor' when 'counsellor' could be the intended word. --mattbr³⁰
"Costal" is a real word, meaning "related to the rib" —Mets501 (talk)
'judgemental' to 'judgmental'. According to my dictionary, both are equally acceptable. mattbr³⁰
'Adaptions' to 'Adaptations'. JoeSmack ^Talk
repond and variants -> respond --Guinnog

RETF development

I don't know what to say really. Something has come up and I might not be able to continue to update RETF after the next week or so.......I have put in countless sleepless nights of just me, my computer, and a case of Rockstar energy drink working on this. It has made me feel that I really am a devoted Wikipedian.

I have developed RegExTypoFix from a little hobby of mine into a full SourceForge project. I told a friend that I’ve worked 50 development hours in all. I have a really bad sense of time, but I’m sure it was more. I won’t lie, I am very proud of my work. Hopefully this will be used long after I leave.

To ensure that, I need a person/people to become admins on the RETF project. I don’t ask that you do anything but fix any errors that people report. There is a bit of a process to doing this, but I can teach you. Please send me a message on my talk page. Please my close friends only please, I hope you understand that I want to 100% trust this person. However, I might just hand it off to User:Bluemoose, as if he didn’t have enough on his plate =D.

Download + more

User:Mboverload/RegExTypoFix/updateboxTo keep an eye on RETF, you can use {{User:Mboverload/RegExTypoFix/updatebox}} and it will produce the box you see here =D. When AWB updates, I can turn it green on command =P

Extract Typos.xml from the zip file either using the zip extraction tool provided with XP or use 7zip.

Under the new system that Martin (User:Bluemoose) developed Typos.xml is separate from the settings file. This way it can be easily swapped out and doesn't interfere with your own personal find and replace settings. Put it in the AWB directory. It is loaded automatically when you start AWB.

In addition, each Typos.xml file comes coded with a version number. Perhaps in some future release AWB will be able to check to see if there's an update for you!

The latest version is not built into AWB, you will have to download it here Just updated a few minutes ago. --mboverload @ 01:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Editcountitis

I think opposing an RFA candidate for having 338 edits in one category when your standards say 350 edits in that category, frankly, is silly. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-08-07 18:29Z

Yes, you're right. I've changed to neutral. —Mets501 (talk) 18:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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Removing votes from your own RFA

This type of thing tends to be looked down upon. Dont do it again. Tchadienne 15:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mets. I took a look at the situation. Although Tchadienne has been very uncivil about it, ~~and I shall say so to him~~, I don't think he (she?) has done anything actually wrong in voting against your RfA. I suggest you let the vote stand; removing it might make you look bad. ~~I will make a note to the closing bureaucrat against Tchad's vote, but,~~ having been unblocked now, there is no reason that the vote will be invalid. Whether the vote was cast in good faith is another matter, and one I am sure the closing bureaucrat will take into account. Don't worry about it; I think you're cruising the RfA anyway, nicht wahr? Let me know if I can do anything else to help you. Best wishes, --Guinnog 15:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I missed the sig! On reflection, Tchad's user talk is protected, so I have asked an admin to pass on the message about incivility in RfA. And, I think there is no need to specially flag up the oppose vote as a bad-faith one; it will be obvious enough to whoever closes the AfD. Keep on keeping on, --Guinnog 16:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

You are very welcome. Let me know if I can do anything else. --Guinnog 16:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

There was really no need, but I really appreciate your thoughtfulness in awarding me it. Thank you very much! --Guinnog 16:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Funky Sig?

I see that you've modified your sig, so that it includes (talk), for example, with red parens and a link. How does one do this so they can invoke it without copy-paste? --Kaz 21:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Peekyou.com

Not really sure where I should put this response, but you asked for it to be on this page so I will. Peekyou.com is a social search engine, so it was appropriate to add it to a page that has a list of social search engines. I don't really see the problem here. I understand that you are doing your best to keep spam off of Wikipedia, and that is entirely commendable, but isn't it also supposed to be a place to find relevant information?

If I had changed the text of some definition page to include PeekYou.com that would be one thing, and I could see the argument that it might be considered spam. But to add it to a list whose sole purpose is to catalog sites like it? I won't revert, as you're probably an admin and would just ban me, but please, think this over a bit more, both for this instance and for the future.

My sig

Sorry about that, I'll fix it ASAP. By the way, I'm a member of Esperanza, and you'll notice I have a green E on my sig. However, when see it, the E is purple. Do you know how to fix it?--Ed^{talk c E}02:23, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Damn it! I could have just done that! I can't believe there was an easier way to do this!----Ed^{talk c E} 15:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For going the extra mile to show me the way to placing signatures. --Ed^{talk c E} 15:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Flight Simulator X

In response to your question, no, I didn't use sockpuppet on the demo bit. I was under the impression that the fileplanet beta is the same thing as the public demo, hence I removed the paragraph and created a separate Demo section, until 82.252.213.230 clarified the difference. I assume 84.51.152.199 made the same mistake when editing and he obviously didn't see the previous edit log, but I had nothing to do with this edit. - Canwolf 21:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

mboverload's image

Yes, I did take it. It's called Focus. Frame. Shoot. and you can comment about it here. You can see my other (mostly crappy) work on my deviantART profile page. Glad you liked it =D --mboverload @ 22:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Graffitti vigilance

Great to see the vigilance of you and your tools in reverting the graffitti in the Puritan article a few minutes ago. Cool. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 16:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Me

Its me User:Philc_0780, not logged in by mistake, i added the tags onto all of the templates, so I no longer need the help the passage was about, so I removed due to irrelavence. Sorry to have worried you! 172.206.180.165 18:46, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Majora's Mask edit

Recently I made an edit to the Majora's Mask page, and added "Strangely, inside the moon is a beautiful, pristine plain broken by a single tree." at the end of the plot section. And it was removed by you because it was considered vandalism. How in the hell is this vandalism? It may be a spoiler at most, but is in not vandalism. 24.20.174.127

Mike Barson AfD

I'm a little confused by the process you followed. If you disagreed with the PROD, all you had to do was delete it (preferably with a comment on the talk page). Normally, when you list an article for AfD it means you want it deleted - but in this case your entry says "weak keep". I guess we'll get a community consensus out of this ... but I would hav e just started with deleting the PROD. I personally don't know enough to be able to determine if Mike Barson is notable or not - just that the article as written doesn't support verifiable notability... ThanksBrian 19:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)btball

ok, cool, I understand. I actualy do think Mike Barson is notable - but the article doesn't support it. Based on your AfD, I did some more research and now agree that an article about Mike Barson is appropriate - but not this one as currently written. I tagged the article in a few places asking for sources - with appropriate sources to support his verifiable notability, this could be a fine article. It's getting a little late for me here (UTC +1) as I'm travelling tomorrow morning early and still need to pack, or I might just go fix it all myself. I think a great outcome would be for someone (or a few people) to fix the article and then we could close the AfD as a speedy keep (based on an improved article). Thanks, Brian 19:58, 12 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Congratulations

You're now an admin. I recommend being conservative with the new tools, especially at first as you get used to them. Re-read the policy before acting, but dig in and help with the backlogs as soon as you can. Have fun, and again, congrats. - Taxman ^Talk 01:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! (and thanks for the nice talk message) We're always in need of admins from NYC =). alphaChimp ^laudare 04:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Cabal Congrats Muahahaha! THE POWER IS YOURS! Yank sox 04:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Well Deserved!

No problem. As long as you follow the rules then I will be happy to be one to support you. Shane ^{(talk/contrib)} 03:58, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Congrats!

Enjoy your new mop! Baseball,Baby! ^balls^•^strikes 04:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

Congratulations on your promotion, and you're quite welcome! --Merovingian - Talk 04:28, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Mighty Rubber Duck

File:Mightyrubberduck.jpg

As a note of congratulations on your successful RfA, I am pleased to present you with the Mighty Rubber Duck. You're the first-ever recipient. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit ™/?! 04:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

Congratulations! Brian 04:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Yes Congrats and have a cup of Hot Chocolate as a reward! Æon ^{Insane Ward} 04:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Congatulations! Jayjg ^(talk) 05:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Hoorah! Congratulations :) (are you going to drink that hot chocolate? I wouldn't mind a cup :D) --james^(talk) 07:00, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Jolly well done, old chap! If you need any help with admin duties, please feel free to ask! Regards, (aeropagitica) (talk) 07:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem and congratulations. Be sure to ask Essjay for an invite to the admin channel if you're still using IRC. --Pilotguy^{(roger that)} 13:47, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 14:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

- Congratulations from me, too. Daniel's page ☎ 00:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

- - And from me. Congratulations! --physicq210 01:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:my vote

Yes, I did read the talkpage. Freestylefrappe was an excellent editor before he was desysopped and his vote should have stood. Removing oppose votes from your own RfA is not your job in any case. I see you were promoted anyway, but I hope you wouldn't use this tactic to silence criticism of your actions, or something like that. Good luck with the mopping. Grue 13:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey Mets!

I'm just here to offer my congrats, and mention that of course if Freestylefrappe had voted under his actual username instead of a sockpuppet account, his vote should have counted. Unfortunately, he was on a block at the time and he used a sockpuppet account. I have absolutely no reason to object to the removal (or proposed removal) of such a "vote", and wish you the best of luck on your adminship. Happy mopping! :)--Firsfron of Ronchester 17:43, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congrats on the adminship, well-deserved and I was glad to be one of the masses. By the way, apropos of nothing except a look at your interests (which seriously overlap mine) and contributions, you might want to take a look at this and the links therein sometime, if you haven't previously seen it. Regards, Newyorkbrad 15:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Just want to say thanks for stopping that vandal on British airways. Mrld 20:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Ceiling cat

Regardless of your personal feelings on the matter, and the history of the origin of the photograph, Ceiling Cat has indeed become a very popular and notable Internet phenomena. Why did you delete the stub? Gigs 21:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for trying

I appreciate your attempt to restore Ceiling Cat. Looks like it's not widespread enough to get past the stigma it has here yet. I originally came to Wikipedia to find out more information about the image, I was surprised when there was no article about it. It was only after I started creating the article I found out about the source of the image being Wikipedia itself. Well maybe someday Ceiling Cat will merit an article. For now we'll have to let Encyclopedia Dramatica take up the slack. :) Gigs 21:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

A stealth contribution...

Congrats on your adminship! Saw the deleted comma, and am using it as an excuse to invite you to update DYK!! We need more updaters!! The instructions are quite straightforward, but it takes about 45 minutes of time to do it. Would be great if you could try your hand at it when you have some time. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 23:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey. Updates are every 6 hours and, while you can just change one or two if you want, usually the entire template is changed. The instructions at WP:DYK are a little sparse and I made many errors when I first started updating, but everyone helps out to fix them. -- Samir धर्म 00:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the template on Venus. One small thing -- it would be great if you could pick another fact about the same article as opposed to removing the article from DYK next time. Hope to see you updating DYK soon. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 05:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Update

I see you added "Admin" and "Recall" to your categories, but you need to update "About Me" on the top of your userpage. Newyorkbrad 00:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. Hope you're enjoying your first day with the mop. See also my comment above if you missed it. Newyorkbrad 01:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Article deletion

Hello! You deleted my article Quer ins Arschloch reinvögeln because it is a german expression. Please restore it, the article is ok and I think, that a german expression can also be in the english Wiki. Thank you, --Itemsubcriber 00:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Pnatt

I know! I'm hoping he gets bored with it very soon. Thanks for blocking him so quickly. Last time he did this it took ages to get him blocked. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 02:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that, that's great. And congrats on your adminship! Sarah Ewart (Talk) 02:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

According to Pnatt's userpage history he has Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. That may explain his rampant vandalism patterns on Wikipedia. Aussieguy 03:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Here's proof... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Pnatt&direction=next&oldid=48088073

I sent you an email, Mets. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 03:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Apparent Vandalism

the incident was a planned test of vandalism response times. A page was vandalized lightly, changing only one word. The time until a revert was then counted. It was a very, very good result. --84.64.42.43 12:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The test was in fact part of research into a newspaper article detailing the work of Wikipedia. I will be sure to add that while wikipedia's administrators are hard-working, they are also arrogant. --84.64.42.43 13:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Tune......

drat it... I had just added Tune..... to WP:AIAV and then discovered you'd already found and blocked him. good fast work! bikeable (talk) 14:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

quer in arshloch is back

user:Itemsubcriber reposted the article you deleted yesterday, apparently unchanged.Richardjames444 15:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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Sarah Ewart

As I think Sarah mentioned to you, I had previously offered to nominate her for RfA, but she wasn't quite ready. However, she's going with your nom, which is well done, so I've agreed to co-nom, which I am very pleased to do. Tyrenius 17:06, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I understand. Tyrenius 17:11, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Co-nom'd. Let me know if you think it's OK. Tyrenius 17:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou both...I'm completely blown away. Mets, I think I might remove the nom template from my talk page so the page doesn't attract trolling. Thankyou, you're both very kind. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 01:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

If I may butt in here, Sarah, you're too modest. This is would have happened long ago but for people respecting your wish to leave it for a bit. Very glad to hear you're going with it now. Cheers, Ian Rose 10:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Venus

Hi - I see you have removed the article on Venus from the front page for not being exactly like Earth. The bit states that Venus is the most Earthlike atmosphere in the Solar System, not that Venus has an Earthlike atmosphere. The temperature numbers based on the number of kilometres would give around 40 degrees at 52-3 kilometres anyway, but rounding off to 50 is better because the numbers are not quite exact in the first place. I would have preferred that you took a look at the sources in the article - this one clearly states that "Although the surface of Venus is an extremely hostile environment, at about 50 kilometers above thesurface the atmosphere of Venus is the most earthlike environment (other than Earth itself) in the solar system" in the first sentence of the first paragraph. Please check sources before making an abrupt change like that (and please restore the Venus article on the front page as it only had three hours there). Mithridates 18:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, looking at the sentence again it should be changed a bit to "a similar" instead of "the same". That was my fault. Mithridates 18:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for that. Sorry for being a bit terse there in the first message as I didn't see that I had phrased it wrong. Mithridates 18:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Regionalliga table

Hi, you helped me out with my table getting rid of the white part but doing that caused another problem with it, the data in one of the columns now doesn't show up and I was wandering if perhaps you had any idea what was wrong and how to fix it, here is the page User:Curswine/Sandbox/Regionalliga and thanks a lot for being so helpful. --shanda 18:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry for wasting your time, I just managed to fix the problem, thanks for helping me out in the first place though. --shanda 18:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict

I don't want to wheel war but I think protected this is bad since it's on the main page and will be. We have alot of eyes looking at this article. Yank sox 02:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

School

Public or private? Just curious. I went to stuy. - CrazyRussian talk/email 02:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Or you could email to keep private - CrazyRussian talk/email 02:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

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Rainbow Gathering - Review Request

Greetings,

I see that you placed a protection of the Rainbow Gathering article and in some sense I do appreciate that however, the user who asked you to protect the page did so after he made changes to the text thereby shutting out valid listings of annual Rainbow Gatherings here in the United States. This is a heated topic not only on Wikipedia but also nationally for the Rainbow Family at large. This is a dynamic freeform movement that has been active since at least 1972. As the gatherings have grown so have the number of gatherings world wide. Within the United States there are now two notable gatherings that are hosted annually. Myself and others would like these gatherings listed as they are of historical interest. Please review comments on the talk page, request for semi-protection of the article and reprieve from the vandalism that has ensued over the course of several months. If at all possible, please invest a little research on the topic of Rainbow Gatherings and their unorganized nature. Rainbow Gathering information can be found at http://rainbowguide.info and other places throughout the internet. Thanks for your time and consideration. P.S. My computer is on the fritz and my time online is weak at best for at least a couple of days. Lookingheart 07:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)Lookingheart

Image:Yahoo.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Yahoo.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Wwagner 16:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

stewiegriffin logon

My friend told me to use this logon.

I have done nothing wrong