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Cyrus the Great

I've explained everything on talkpage. --109.60.45.72 (talk) 11:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

However, my mistake was making edits before I put explanation at talkpage, so there has been misunderstanding. I hope you don't mind. --109.60.45.72 (talk) 11:25, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Vandalism

Please stop calling the edits you don't like "vandalism". This is impolite, to say the least. Debresser (talk) 11:25, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Cyrus the Great. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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IP 212.174.156.142 message

Hello.

Are you sure that Rumi was Persian? Although there are many sources which indicate he was Persian, I'm pretty sure he was Turkic and there is a good number of sources to support my idea. Please be open minded and check the other side of the story. Is it concrete clear that he was Persian, or just a thesis?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.174.156.142 (talk) 15:41, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Well... My suggestion for you is to read Talk:Rumi page and talk page archives. Specially discussions about his ethnicity. You should read a consensus from discussion.:
"A consensus has been reached on this talkpage that Rumi has a Persian heritage. This has been based solely on reliable sources indicating the linkage of the historical situation of his birthplace and native language with Persian culture. Before reopening the debate on his ethnicity editors are requested to go through wikipedia's policies outlined at WP:V, WP:weight, WP:RS as well as read the archives where many of the same polemics are repeated. Specifically, modern authoritative biographies of Rumi such as that of Prof. Franklin Lewis, or google books/scholars for the most common frequent terms such as "Persian poet Rumi" and "Persian mystic Rumi"."
As you you see, there are many reliable sources about his ethnicity. If you have other reliable sources and you claim he has a different ethnicity/heritage/culture, Use the Talk:Rumi page. But you can't change sourced content or use your personal/unsourced claims. If you have reliable, verifiable, academic, and encyclopedia quality sources, citations, books, papers, and etc., provide them on Talk:Rumi. If your claims is acceptable, editors will collaborate with you. But I see you just used that talk page like a forum (without providing any source/citation). Read the WP:RELIABLESOURCES. Zheek (talk) 18:59, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Crash Course on Nezami/Rumi

Hello, Please see here: [1] and here: [2]. I have done the hard work..but Iranians need to defend their heritage..I don't want to edit wikipedia constantly and need to do other things and tend to my family. I appreciate your hard work. Please read the two pages when you have time and put them on your talkpage. Also if you have questions, can contact users such as Alborz, Lysozym and Iroony --Vortexion (talk) 20:48, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

incase

Also if you have questions, can contact users such as Alborz, Lysozym and Iroony or Persian Wikipedia..--Vortexion (talk) 12:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Keep watch

Please keep an eye on Abdul Qadir Maraghi, Safi al-Din Urmawi, Shabistari, Homam Tabrizi, Bahmanyar and Qatran Tabrizi..these get vandalized by ips..etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vortexion (talk • contribs) 14:33, 18 January 2013 (UTC) Also two other articles Khusraw and Shirin and Layli and Majnun--Vortexion (talk) 14:36, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Avicenna

I don't have time..but can you get a permanent ip protection.. all you need to do is show how many ips have vandalized the page over the years.. thanks.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vortexion (talk • contribs) 20:50, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Rumi

Hi Can you keep an eye on the article? See also here: [3] for 50+ references and all the top notch scholars. Thanks--Vortexion (talk) 11:40, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Delhi Sultanate, Khwarazmian Empire and Mughal Empire

Presented sources are very credible and I added informations are verifiability and helpful. Decide according to what it is not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EMr KnG (talk • contribs) 17:19, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

User:EMr_KnG

I would suggest filing an edit warring complaint against this editor[4] and has already been warned at least 2-3 times on their talk page. I am busy today and may not get around to filing at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:33, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

map

See here [5]..based on that remove any such maps and replace them with what Taivo has put..The wikipedia madeup maps contradict Western academic sources: [6] (University of Texas) [7] (Columbia University)..these maps that claim Qom, Kordestan, Arak, Qazvin etc. as Azeri-Turkish speaking are created by fascist elements..I hope they do not show up in the future.--108.45.113.26 (talk) 01:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Date formats

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[8] Gimmetoo (talk) 23:05, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

On that article I used American date format (mdy), because Britney is an American singer and also all dates in the article body has "mdy" format. I edited dates with a script and all of them are citations/references dates not other dates, because as I said the article Circus (Britney Spears album) currently has mdy dates. So I just edited some refs dates to match current format. Also script added Use mdy dates template. So can you explain why my edit/date formatting is not necessary? If I changed all dates and introduced new format to the article, I agree with you. For example, Adele and most Adele related articles use "dmy" format in all scopes. If I changed them to "mdy", my edit/formatting is wrong, unnecessary, and incorrect. But I think for that article (Britney album), my edit/formatting is helpful and necessary. Zheek (talk) 12:01, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Prior to your edit, [9] the references in that article used predominantly and consistently the yyyy-mm-dd format for both the publication dates and the accessdates. This format is often used in the references beacuse it is shorter, and for other reasons. There was no need to remove that format from that article's references. Gimmetoo (talk) 13:27, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
OK. You're right. I agree your opinion. Next time I'll change only necessary sections or when it's really needed and necessary. Not all dates. Thank you for your help and attention. Zheek (talk) 14:06, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Note

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#EMr_KnG. Regards. --Lysozym (talk) 10:36, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

needs reporting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.10.158.120 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.228.20 (talk) 05:10, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Irrelevant languages

And why are those languages Irrelevant Sir? Timurid Empire covered vast swathes of the middle east (Thus Arabic)...Court language may have been persian and privately they spoke Chagatai Turkish but the language evolved by the House of Timur in their armies was Urdu. So u see its not entirley irrelevant as u see it. However, be as it may, the all are written in the same style and arabic alphabets. I don't see a serious objection in the matter. It neither distorts facts nor impedes wiki standards of user friendly interface or encyclopedia itself. Please do give me your "relevant" input--182.185.233.25 (talk) 03:43, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

No. That's not a good reason to add those languages on Timurid-related articles. It's similar to add Persian/Arabic/Mongolian to any article about Middle East, Central Asia, Caucasus, India, Pakistan, and etc. All languages on any article need good sources and encyclopedic reasons. See this section (and if you want discuss): Timurid rulers. If you don't agree with me, I suggest you to start a new section/topic about those languages and your edits on Talk:Timurid dynasty, provide your reasons and most importantly your sources, and ask other editors. Your edits need reliable sources and have a consensus on talk page, before achieving consensus, please do not add them again. It's better (and necessary) to start and continue your discussion on Timurid talk page not my talk page, because it's related to that topic and your edits are not simple or minor, so using the article talk page is really necessary. Zheek (talk) 11:35, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment

Hey Zheek; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:21, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. Zheek (talk) 06:19, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

User:Janicar and his IPs reported for edit warring

See here. Thanks. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

User:Janicar and his IPs

I filed a SPI and they just declined/ignored it. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:35, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

I saw that SPI. The better way is to keep watching articles and use article talk pages. Warn those IPs/users on their own talk pages and finally report them on "incidents", "vandalism", "edit war" and other related noticeboards. He/She uses dynamic/shared IP addresses, so SPI maybe not helpful and If we request a SPI, we should use detailed diffs and prove that they are same person. But I think admins won't block shared IP addresses in the SPI cases except extreme cases.

So my suggestion:

  • Warn IP addresses with proper warning templates.
  • Use clear edit summaries and article discussion/talk page to help admins. Starting a consensus topic/section on talk pages is necessary because they don't stop their edits and also we don't want to be involved in the endless/unending reverting.
  • Call other editors/admins to verify situations.
  • Report them with details and diffs.
  • Sometimes a page protection request is necessary for the articles with a visible/obvious history of vandalism, edit warring, and content dispute.
  • Keep watching their edits and articles' revisions/version history (diffs). Very helpful for editors, admins, reports, and consensuses on the talk pages.

I know you are familiar with my suggestion but for dealing with shared IP addresses, it will be helpful. Regards. Zheek (talk) 08:19, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Kurdish language

Do you know anything about this? See Talk:Kurdish language. Will try to find time to comment on your request but dinner calls and I've got real life stuff tonight. Dougweller (talk) 18:06, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I wrote my comment on the article talk page. Zheek (talk) 20:10, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Your request for rollback

Hi Mann Mann/Archive 2013. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war.
  • If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
  • Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! v/r - TP 16:31, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

i cited but may be you missed

dear, i made a citation of the book i followed i.e Medieval India,vol I Satish Chandra. i think you missed it. actually i was student of Medieval Indian history and i want to enlarge these articles of this particular subject with the mose recent research done so far. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shubhrodipta (talk • contribs) 16:37, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Please read your talk page. Zheek (talk) 17:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Tatars

Tatars are not russian orthodox. It is an insult to call any Tatar a Christian. Tatars are Muslim and proud!

WPCleaner

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IP edits

Sorry, I really don't think I know enough about the issues to do this justice. Dougweller (talk) 19:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Faizan (talk) 06:12, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Farooq Umar

I have created this Article recently, Please help me there with scripts, content addition, etc.! Faizan (talk) 06:13, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Well brother thanks for your help there about WebCite! I will archive references from now on. Can you just tell me regarding using this script and this one? Faizan (talk) 10:36, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
You are welcome. There are some scripts to make repetitive tasks easier. Just go to their pages and read instructions about them. But remember you should use them carefully and with caution. There is a link to Wikipedia scripts on my user page. You can find a lot of them. Pick necessary scripts and use them when you need them. Zheek (talk) 15:12, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok brother, Thank you very much! I will try to make a fair use. Faizan (talk) 06:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Well... Please don't call me brother. Just my username is enough. Thanks. Zheek (talk) 07:46, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
I have learnt using scripts, thanks! Faizan (talk) 08:16, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Good luck. Zheek (talk) 08:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Hello, there is currently a discussion at AN [10] about a disruptive IP editor with whom you have been involved.Jeppiz (talk) 22:45, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

OK. I will write my comment(s). Zheek (talk) 07:47, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Azerbaijani people

Fake map by Ebrahimi Amir. I am going to report him to Arbcomm but please keep an eye on the page. Simply, the map he made is self-made and has no consensus and is not academic.--Xodabande14 (talk) 01:29, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Please note here

Since you fight vandalism, I thought I might make you aware of the discussions here: [11] [12].. for future vandals that might upload nonsense..These are some good maps here that are WP:RS [13] on Iraq, Iran, Caucasus, Syria etc. Texas university [14][15]. More importantly since this area has a lot of POV pushers, just give them an AA2 warning and then report them to the AE board[16]. --Xodabande14 (talk) 14:25, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Map

Zheek, please give your opinion here..[17]. I'll let you handle and work out any consensus or final decision, and will stay out. You have always been a good neutral user. I had promised someone not to get involved in petty political matters and intend to keep that promise. Seeing the false map though was too much but I'll try to control myself.. I have asked Alborz to help since he has always been a neutral user. Thanks. --Xodabande14 (talk) 15:03, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Xodabande14, I've replied on the article talk page. Zheek (talk) 15:47, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Izady

On the map and Izady.. Please also see my suggestion about contacting Izady [18]. I have my wiki email as inactive, but perhaps you can track him down with wiki email or through other means. If he allows the map to go into wiki commons, it will save a lot of time.. Or perhaps it is free use for scientific purposes.. Not sure if you can track them down perhaps [19]--Xodabande14 (talk) 12:49, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Azerbaijan (Iran)

The Map provided in the article is the provinces in north west of Iran and not Iranian Azerbaijan historical territory. This is a free encyclopaedia and should not use as political tool to make dreams of suppressing Iran regime in dividing land of 30 million to smaller provinces with mixed population and leaving small portion of their historic land with its historic name and changing other parts name. What you are doing here is supporting suppress of Azerbaijani in the name of an article. This article was initially produced by Iranian government in Farsi then translated to English as thousands of other article about Iran and Iranian people and ethnic minorities. Pleas respect users right to contribute in articles about their mother land and don't let this useful encyclopaedia to be used against rights of ethnic minorities which do not have access to humane resources. this article will not change historic territory of Azerbaijani people but definitely will change their trust in believing Wikipedia as an independent body of information. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkrjkk (talk • contribs) 18:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, WP is an encyclopedia and that's the reason why I reverted your edits and I warned you, because your edits (on that article) are problematic. Take your concerns, reasons and your sources to the article talk page/discussion and also remember don't use personal attacks against other editors like what you did on this message. Zyma (talk) 19:43, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Dougweller (talk) 13:53, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Done. Dougweller (talk) 14:26, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

IP

Blocked for continuing to remove sourced text despite warnings. Dougweller (talk) 09:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Zyma (talk) 16:12, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

File Renamed

Hello Zyma, I have now renamed your files on your request:

  1. File:Mono For My Parents cover.jpeg (to your requested name)
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-- Simeondahl (talk) 16:14, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Simeondahl. Zyma (talk) 16:32, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

File Renamed

Hello Zyma, all your files has now been moved to the requested name :) Have a nice day! --Simeondahl (talk) 18:55, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Zyma (talk) 14:04, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you. Zyma (talk) 18:55, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I'd vote for you for sysop.

Bearian (talk) 17:42, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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