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Hi again

I am trying to sort out some of the Lebanese villages (adding 1838 stuff from User:Huldra/Robinson). Lots of merging at Wikidata (because editors start articles about villages, without checking if articles about the same place exists on other wikis).

Now I have a problem: Majdel Balhis (in Rashaya District) is linked with one article on ar.wp: ar:مجدل بلحيس

Alas, we also have on Italian wp the article it:Majdel Balhiss (also in the Rashaya District), and that is linked with ar:مجدل بلهيص

Which of the Arabic articles is the "right" one? Or are there two articles for the same village on ar.wp?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:22, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I think I figured it out: the :it: article was linked to the wrong :ar: article (at least according to Localiban-spelling?) Huldra (talk) 23:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
I also have a problem with Qelaya, see top of User:Huldra/Robinson#p._141. So according to Robinson/Smith; the corresponding article on ar.wp must be ar:قلايا.......but what then is it:Kelya (with its linked ar.article ar:قليا)? Huldra (talk) 21:39, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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If you have a moment, can you join the convo re Hashemite custodianship of Jerusalem holy sites at Once's talk page (at the bottom headed "Busy?"~). Cheers. Selfstudier (talk) 08:50, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

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United States

Unintended on my part...just got swept up in the mix of what I was working on...sorry about that. Vjmlhds 13:54, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

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Complaint

This is obviously seen as a justification for terrorism by quoting sources such as that. You know most people will read as an ‘eye for an eye’ when that was clearly not the case, this was clear cut terrorism as clear as the light of day. Salandarianflag (talk) 19:32, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

February 2023

Hi. I was just wondering why you think that "Islamic" doesn't apply to the Hashemites. M.Bitton (talk) 13:27, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton: There’s nothing Islamic about Jordanian royal family. They do not rule using Sharia law nor do they aspire to. They’re secular and do not support political Islam, Islamism. They’re actually directly opposed to that ideology. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:31, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Islamic simply means "related to Islam" or "connected with the Muslim religion" (which, as Sharifians, they are), it doesn't necessarily mean that they rule using Sharia law. M.Bitton (talk) 13:33, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
@M.Bitton: Islamic monarchy by definition according to sources I could find online is where monarchial and religious authorities are intertwined. This intertwining is not the case in Jordan, and is actually more of a case in the United Kingdom where the monarch is head of church of England. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
The wiki definition (the only one I could find) is unsourced. Do you have a link to the sources in questions? M.Bitton (talk) 13:51, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

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1RR

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@Guerillero: Exemptions include reverting users who are not allowed to edit. Makeandtoss (talk) 18:35, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Not great RM

You should really have looked for the existing Wadi Hilweh page before starting this. See talk. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:26, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Palestine-Israel articles 4: Clarification request closed

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the clarification request regarding Palestine-Israel articles 4 has been closed with the following summary, referring to Dovidroth:

There is a rough consensus that there is no conflict of interest issue with this particular editor, and as a general principle, simply being the employee of a government does not prevent all editing in a contentious topic that involves that government.

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Dispute re:Palestine

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Precious anniversary

Precious
Seven years!

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Double check

I think you got confused here. Why do you think the editor can't edit? Iskandar323 (talk) 08:41, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Not allowed to edit + reverting other unconstructive edits. Makeandtoss (talk) 08:13, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Your request for arbitration

I have no idea but, why did you add an empty duplicate section above your request for arbitration? Toadette (chat)/(logs) 11:17, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

I do not remember adding it honestly. I only clicked on the add request button and changed below accordingly. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:18, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Hey, Makeandtoss. I'm not an admin and have no authority to tell you what to do. This is just advice based on hard-earned experience, which you are free to act on or not as you see fit. I think you should stop talking about your concerns about Dovidroth being an employee of the National Library of Israel. It's making you look bad. If you mention it just once, then it looks like you're just providing some context for the new accusations, but if you mention it over and over, it will look like you're WP:FORUMSHOPPING. People will think you only want a do-over of the COIPOLITICAL issue because you got an answer you didn't like. This will make them overlook any new issues raised. I read the April filing, and you raised a few good points, but so did the other editors. It's one thing to revisit an issue if new evidence comes up or something important changes or even if a lot of time has passed, but none of this has happened this time.

Don't worry that people won't notice the previous accusation. After all, I noticed it.

Dovidroth shouldn't have called your edits stupid. You've presented the community with what looks like a fair case. Don't get yourself WP:BOOMERANGed when all you have to do is sit back and let people read it. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:21, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Noted, thanks. Makeandtoss (talk) 09:52, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Need Arabic help

Hi, Make&toss, there is an Arabic name question at Talk:Hebron#Al-khalil_al-rahman that you might be able to help with. Thanks. Zerotalk 13:12, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

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Please use edit summaries

Can you please use edit summaries for every edit you make October 2023 Gaza–Israel conflict? Many of your edits[1] remove references or material without explaining why. VR talk 15:26, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

@Vice regent: Noted. Mostly unnecessary, for example the Indian references. Or a live CNN source. Or just redundant. It seemed to me as if sources from every news article have just been dropped in the lede for no good reason. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:28, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

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