User talk:Luxic/Archive 2

AC Milan

Tutto quello che ho fatto è stato semplicemente includere i giocatori che appaiono nella rosa della prima squadra pubblicata dal sito del Milan,[1] che include anche giocatori ancora a quota zero presenze stagionali (Zigoni, Adiyiah). La rosa disponibile sul sito della Lega Calcio non è aggiornata (ancora includeva Storari stamattina, tanto per dire), e non ha alcun criterio particolare di scelta se non quello del webmaster stesso, visto che non esiste una lista ufficiale di giocatori da presentare alla Lega, a differenza di quanto avviene in altri campionati (Serie B, La Liga...) o nelle competizioni internazionali. Di conseguenza, ritengo che l'unica lista attuabile sia quella pubblicata dal Milan stesso, e su quella ci si debba basare. Altri giocatori "aggregati" che hanno esordito in prima squadra ma non appaiono nella rosa stessa possono essere menzionati nell'articolo A.C. Milan season 2009–10, o al massimo apparire in una sezione a parte, visto che, ripeto, non fanno parte della prima squadra, ma piuttosto sono dei Primavera con qualche minuto di apparizione in Coppa Italia o, nel caso di Strasser, in Serie A.--Angelo (talk) 18:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Per quanto riguarda la Serie A, non vi è tuttavia alcun limite al numero di giocatori, il che porta ad assegnare numeri di squadra anche a chi della prima squadra non fa effettivamente parte, basta guardare l'ultimo CU della Lega per un esempio [2] - la Juventus ha aggiunto ben cinque giocatori in una settimana, quattro dei quali Primavera, e il Milan ha aggiunto, oltre a De Vito che ha appena esordito in Coppa Italia, anche un certo Alexander Merkel, che ovviamente non credo faccia parte della prima squadra. Ciò rende più attendibile il sito della squadra stessa, visto che è, per l'appunto, gestito direttamente dal club di riferimento. Su Zigoni non so che dirti, probabilmente fa parte della prima squadra in quanto già giocatore professionista a tutti gli effetti (ha giocato l'anno scorso a Treviso in Serie B con discreti risultati, quindi ha esperienze significative di prima squadra a differenza degli altri primavera). --Angelo (talk) 08:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Milan

Ragazzo, smettila di modificare a tuo piacimento le pagine inglesi dei calciatori Abate e Antonini. --82.61.159.201 (talk) 18:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Veramente qui l'unico che modifica a proprio piacimento sei tu. Per altro, senza nemmeno avere un account e approfittando del fatto di avere IP dinamici. La pagina Italian people si riferisce agli italiani come gruppo etnico, non è una nazionalità! Inoltre, il paragrafo introduttivo per i calciatori va scritto seguendo il formato standard, come puoi vedere qui. Infine, il parametro total caps nell'infobox è opzionale, ma non certo vietato. — Luxic (talk) 18:37, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Matches in 2009-10 A.C. Milan season

I added all those goalscorers because they were missing in the initial content, and I don't find them redundant. The content is the same as with all Serie A season stats I have been involved in, so I think it's a good complement to the basic information. Roslagen 17:24, 11 June 2010 (CEST)

Well, they are, at least in my edits ;) I've done quite a lot in terms of Italian football, so I have a relatively valid template in terms of what to do in that aspect. I'm mostly focusing on older seasons, but thought it worth having a go at the latest season. Anyways, in the Juventus season articles, the opposition's goalscorers' are listed, as is the case with Fiorentina and Napoli (where the edit has been completed). Roslagen 22:44, 11 June 2010 (CEST)

Autopatrolled

Help us new page patrollers out by asking for the Autopatrolled flag. You can request it here. -- Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 15:44, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Squad Table in 2010–11 A.C. Milan season

I changed the table, since (in my opinion as a reader) is important to note the appearences and goals, to draw conclusions from the transfers, and the idea would be to update the table as the season progresses, so we could observe changes. Ideally, at the beginning of the season we should put all stats to 0 and draw every goal scored or appearence, so it would be clear which player was more or less important in the development of the season, and thus able to draw conclusions.

On the template, it simply looks more organized and clear.I was checking the last table and I conclude that it was not clear enough. I think the wight is not worrisome, because the difference is not much. It is also true that I think the table is nicer, but this is not the main reason for change. We could edit the page and pass the table to a new area with stats, and let the previous one only with basic information as the first team table.As you can see in Juventus or Inter, ot looks better and enough clear. Sorry for the spelling, I'm a little bit hurried.I will be checking your answer.Bazoc (talk) 17:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I really love that idea, that page form manchester united season is great!, I will like a lot to have all those proses and comments. I was also thinking on updating the 2008-09 and 2009-10 seasons from milan. Also looking at last year season, I realize that we should add the posible starting 11 and the disciplinary record. So, Are we going to change the table? I am very interseted on updating the page and the older seasons.Bazoc (talk) 19:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I like it , specially the stats one. I will be working also in few details. Anything you need tell me.Bazoc (talk) 19:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I was wondering about the table again... Why did you erase the other?, it is better to have both, one from stats and an other from facts as age, or transfer fee(like the older one), i like what you are doing with the proses, tell me if you have any idea, temporally I am going to add the older table.. Bazoc (talk) 3:49, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Lega Calcio, Lega Serie A

The page should be updated, see task force page. Matthew_hk tc 04:42, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Dominic Adiyiah

U-20 stats are faked by Zombie433. I reported this cheater Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. He faked thousands articles about african footballers.

This stats are pure fiction. In 2009 he insterted 9 (5) [3] and the same day he changed it to 5 (2) [4].

He falsed Adiyiah club stats as well. He put 74 in number of matches in Heart of Lions [5] and later changed it to 24 [6]

In Fredrikstad he also faked stats [7], but got quickly reverted [8]

Lets go back to U-20 stats. Don't forget that 5 (2) stats are pure fiction. Look at Adiyiah profile on fifa [9]. Until 4 October he played 3 matches in U-20 and scored 3 goals. So this Zombie433 update it 5 (2) to 8 (5) [10] Despite 5 (2) was faked this edit is correct. But look what he did later. On 7 October he put 12 (9) [[11]]. As you can see on fifa profile from 4 October to 7 October Adiyiah played one match and scored one goal. So he should update to 9 (6) not 12 (9). This is pure false. Then on 9 October (Adiyiah played this day 1 match and scored 2 goals) he changed 12 (9) to 13 (1) (i think he want to change 13 (11)) [12]. But the same day after few hours he changed 13 (1) to 14 (14), what an idiot! [13]. Since 13 October Adiah played 1 match and scored 2 goals, so he change to 15 (16), so despite stats was faked earlier this edit is correct.[14]. Then on 16 October Adiyiah played his last match. The result was 0-0 so he can't score. But this moron Zombie433 change 15 (16) to 16 (17).[15]

Now I think that you clearly see that this 16 (17) statistics are pure fiction.--Wrwr1 (talk) 14:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Zombie433 put this stats on 4 October 2009 [16]. At this date Adiyiah didn't have a profile on NFT or Milan website. It seems that these websites took this stats from wikipedia. Maybe NFT took them later from Milan website.--Wrwr1 (talk) 16:02, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Logos on football kits

Please see my reply at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard. Thanks. Kaldari (talk) 17:56, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Diego Angelo

Seems Genoa lack of non-EU quota. here is the official announcement about his loan Matthew_hk tc 19:22, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Ac Milan Season 2010-11

Hi, I was wondering about the way we should write the apps in the squad table, I think is better to do it like this: Inicial Apps + Subsitute apps.., Because it will provide better information for conclusions.. I'll be waiting your reply Bazoc (talk) 19:41 , 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Luxic, yesterday night I was thinking about the serie A matches, and I'm working on changing the table, for another one as the one in 2010–11 ACF Fiorentina season. I think it is better, because it is specially designed for soccer mathces, it contains more space for the goals and cards, and it also has the referees. Check it up, so I continue working or not. Bazoc (Talk) 13:54 , 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Well... Although I'm not so sure of that. I understand... Anything You need just tell me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bazoc (talk • contribs) 22:09, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Sergio Campana

Nationality: Italian Place of birth: Bassano del Grappa (Vicenza) Date of birth: 1 August 1934 Height: 176 cm Weight: 74 kg Positions: Defensive Midfielder, Midfielder, Forward Career-status: Retired

L.R. Vicenza 1966-1967 (A)     20 (0)
L.R. Vicenza 1965-1966 (A)     8 (1)
L.R. Vicenza 1964-1965 (A)     10 (2)
L.R. Vicenza 1963-1964 (A)     30 (2)
L.R. Vicenza 1962-1963 (A)     24 (2)
L.R. Vicenza 1961-1962 (A)     16 (5)
Bologna 1960-1961 (A)          24 (8)
Bologna 1959-1960 (A)          26 (10)
L.R. Vicenza 1958-1959 (A)     31 (3)
L.R. Vicenza 1957-1958 (A)     29 (13)
L.R. Vicenza 1956-1957 (A)     26 (7)
L.R. Vicenza 1955-1956 (A)     24 (3)
L.R. Vicenza 1954-1955         15 (6)
L.R. Vicenza 1953-1954          6 (2)

Geregen2 (talk) 14:32, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

San Siro

Hi, I've seen that you amended my edits to the stadium names on both the Inter and AC pages. Thanks for leaving a note on the AC talk page and doing it to both. I was wondering if you could explain your thinking on why San Siro is the appropriate choice? Or is there a guideline somewhere in the football project for stadium name use? Thanks. Bertcocaine (talk) 00:11, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I've just looked at the talk page for the actual stadium, and I'm now thinking that showing both is correct - it seems that each team prefers one name (something about the player and which club holds him as the hero) and I suspect this is what caused them to end up different in the first place. The talk page section here makes good points supporting both sides, but I fear leaving both as San Siro will end up with the Inter page being changes, and then casual readers with no knowledge might assume they are two different stadiums.. what do you think? Bertcocaine (talk) 00:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Bert. I decided to go with San Siro simply because it is the common name. Which is also the reason why it was chosen as the title of the article itself. In fact, despite the official name of the stadium being changed to Giuseppe Meazza in 1980, people here in Italy (but also worldwide, I suppose) have never give up referring to it as San Siro. Inter supporters, too, call it San Siro. It's just a matter of history and tradition, I think. Besides, Giuseppe Meazza was a star-player for Inter, of course, but he also briefly played for Milan and won two World Cups with Italy as well. So that wouldn't be much of a problem anyway. Luxic (talk) 08:44, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Danilo Mariotti

Hi, i'm Danilo Mariotti, i don't know if I'm an important player, but my father Roberto Mariotti it definitely is, as it has been a team player who has played in Serie C2 in Italy in the 1981-1982 season with the jersey of Casalotti Calcio, so he is notable, but i don't know if me are too. --Burning Desire (talk) 00:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Paolo Carbone

I'm working on the article but i could not find any reliable information about the player's early career, except the co-ownership resolution result in 2002. Is that he is a victim of doping amministrativo? eufo.de listed some former club but i can't find more reliable source to support them. Italian wikipedia seems a mess and copy information from unreliable transfermarket web. Matthew_hk tc 08:06, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I did a quick search and I updated the infobox according to his profile on Savona official site (this one). However, I can't find anything about the co-ownership deal with Napoli. Are you sure about that? Luxic (talk) 10:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I knew at the era of doping amministrativo Clubs exchanged their youth product and loaned back to their parent clubs likes, Cesare Bovo, so i had questioned that did he played for Napoli or just on the paper? I had a copy of http://www.lega-calcio.it/ita/partecipazioni2002.pdf but the link is dead Here is the webarchive. Matthew_hk tc 11:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the ref! Yes, he might have been a case of financial doping, though I can't find any sources for that. Actually, I can hardly find any reliable information about his past at all. Luxic (talk) 23:01, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

RE: Mariotti

Una domanda ce l'avrei: all'epoca della serie C2 non se ne teneva conto particolarmente, Roberto Mariotti è mio padre e quell' anno lui fu promosso in prima squadra, giocò qualche partita dall'inizio e varie volte subentrò, quindi la domanda è: dove potri trovare delle fonti di quell'epoca ?? perchè io ho solo fonti materiali (degli indumenti di quell'anno, foto e testimonianza di mio padre in persona). rispondimi appena puoi... --Burning Desire (talk) 19:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)