User talk:Lima Bean Farmer

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Happy editing! Sdkb (talk) 04:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! Wjrz nj forecast (talk) 04:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

globally renamed Wjrz nj forecast to Lima Bean Farmer

globally renamed Wjrz nj forecast to Lima Bean Farmer --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 05:45, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Does this mean that I can be unblocked now Deep fried okra? I appreciate you renaming me, but why are CaptainEek, Yunshui, and NinjaRobotPirate being asked about this? I have nothing against these users but I was just wondering if it was a procedural thing. Since the block was due to my username and it has now been changed, I feel that an unblock would be fair, especially since Orangemike said it would be. Also I apologize, but I don’t see how to make your username bold, so apologies for that. Thank you! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 06:19, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry. I thought this would go better. They either blocked or declined to unblock. I cannot unblock on my own. . --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 13:41, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: If this block was only for the username, I have no objections to you overriding my decline and lifting the block. However, the block notice is for promotional edits. --Yamla (talk) 13:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Yamla: Good point. I think the promo edits have been dealt with somewhere in this growing maelstrom of a talk page. I will not unblock without a consensus. Lima Bean Farmer-- for the sake of my poor eyes, please reiterate how you will avoid promotional editing. --Deep fried okra (schalte ein) 14:00, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

I have explained about 10 times that I never did make promotional editing. I simply put on my page “follow the 2020 house elections and the covid 19 pandemic.” This was meant to state that I follow these things as this is where I do most of my editing. It was never meant to be promotional, just bad grammar. I’ve already stated so many times that I would change this to say that’s what I follow. User:Orangemike found this as a reason to unblock me. User:Yamla, you’d unblock statement did not seem to be in good faith. As much as I don’t like to give up on things, I feel that I will never be able to edit again. I’ve asked that my account be re instated so many times. There’s only so much I can do. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 14:18, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) – I've been watching Wjrz/Lima's edits since their odd behavior on Talk:Kim Jong-un in April. They have not made promotional edits to mainspace articles. The "promotional block" was based on their original account name and the unfortunate wording on their user page, both of which have been rectified. They made a number of unsourced edits but eventually understood that they needed to include a citation with their edits and began doing so. After watching them submit unblock requests that got no response, I believe the repeated unblock requests might either have been done for fear they did it wrong so they tried again or frustration at nobody replying. Schazjmd (talk) 14:29, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Your name has been changed and your account unblocked. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:47, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 14:49, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Note now you are unblocked, you are free to remove all of the content, including the accepted and declined unblock requests, from this page if you wish. You are not at all obligated to do so; you are free to leave them here if you prefer. --Yamla (talk) 15:24, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	This barnstar is awarded to recognize particularly fine contributions to Wikipedia, to let people know that their hard work is seen and appreciated. For your expeditious work on List of Donald Trump 2020 presidential campaign endorsements, ensuring individuals added meet WP:ENDORSE. Thank you for your work, keep it up! —MelbourneStar☆talk 06:55, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Spacing/dash

Hi Lima! Re this edit, and perhaps prior edits to said list, there's a space that you've been adding between the content and citation, for example: –2020)[space]<ref>. There should be no space between the content and citation, as this is consistent throughout Wikipedia. It should appear like this: –2020)<ref>.

Additionally, to conform with MOS:ENTO I've converted all of the dashes (-) to en dash, which is –. To locate this specific dash: 1. Look above the edit summary function, 2. press "Wiki markup" on the drop down list, 3. the en-dash is the first dash after "insert". Eg. So if we can turn this: (1986-2004) into → (1986–2004), that would be great!

You've been a real asset to Wikipedia, please keep up the great work! kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 11:47, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

MelbourneStar☆^talk, I don’t see an edit summary function. I’m not sure what you’re referring to here. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 22:51, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lima,

I'm referring to this:

Edit summary (Briefly describe your changes)

 

This is a minor edit Watch this page

By publishing changes, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 4.0 License and the GFDL. You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license.

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Directly above it you'll see the "Insert"/"Wiki markup" drop down box. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 03:57, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

MelbourneStar☆^talk, I’m real sorry, but I don’t see any of that on my screen. I don’t see the “minor edit” box either. After I make an edit it comes to a page that says “how did you improve this page” and I can type in an edit summary. None of the other stuff is there. I’m not sure why. Should I ask at the tea house? I don’t want to inconvenience anyone with these improper dashes so I’d like to figure this out before we start editing again. Thank you! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 04:55, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lima, no need to apologise! :)

You will only see the edit summary function box when you start editing an article. The "minor edit" box will appear directly under the edit summary box. Directly above the edit summary feature is a drop-down menu which lists a number of things, such as: "Wiki markup", "Insert", "Symbols", "Latin", "IPA", and so forth. If you press "wiki markup", next to the drop down menu will appear many different characters/codes that can be used in articles or talk pages, wherever really. The proper dash to use is the first dash shown (indeed, first character shown) once you press "Wiki markup".

Does that make sense? —MelbourneStar☆^talk 05:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

MelbourneStar☆^talk, I think you are using a different device which may have more features. For the future, I can copy the dash you added and paste it where I need it. Thank you so much for letting me know about that! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 05:22, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, that is very strange. I'll follow that up for you. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 05:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

So Lima, I've reached out to someone who is evidently more switched on than I am :')

You're right, you don't have it. That's because it needs to be activated within your preferences. To do this, you go to "Preferences" (on top right of any Wikipedia page when logged in) → then press "Gadgets" → then, under the heading "Editing", tick the box that says next to it "CharInsert: add a toolbar under the edit window for quickly inserting wiki markup and special characters (troubles?)". Once you tick this box, go to the bottom of the page and hit "Save". And there you go! —MelbourneStar☆^talk 10:01, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

MelbourneStar☆^talk, I don’t have preferences in my top right hand screen. The only thing in the top right is a bell and a thing that lets me search articles. I’m sorry that this has been an inconvenience. I will copy and paste the dash you added or I won’t do this type of editing at all. Thank you for going through so much trouble. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 15:07, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

That's so strange. I don't know why that's the case. Either way, no need to apologise as this isn't your fault. Please continue editing where you please (especially that list, you do a great job). I'll fix the dashes here and there, no problem! kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 04:43, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

MelbourneStar☆^talk, I think it has to do with me using an iPhone to edit. I appreciate you spending so much time on this issue! Happy editing! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 05:03, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Oh wow, I've never edited with my IPhone. I imagine that would be difficult! No worries, anytime. Likewise, happy editing! —MelbourneStar☆^talk 12:49, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

Dear User: Lima Bean Farmer, thank you for spotting that my old account, User: ACEOREVIVED, was listed as a missing Wikipedian. Thank you too for removing it - I am now active under the name Vorbee! Vorbee (talk) 11:33, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Vorbee, of course. I am glad that you are still active! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 16:14, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement topic ban

The following topic ban now applies to you:

An indefinite topic ban from post-1932 American politics

You have been sanctioned for using a sockpuppet to evade your 3 month topic ban in this area

This topic ban is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. Please read WP:TBAN to understand what a topic ban is. If you do not comply with the topic ban, you may be blocked for an extended period to enforce the ban.

If you wish to appeal the ban, please read the appeals process. You are free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 12:35, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Please note that bans apply to you as the person and not to the account. If you use sockpuppets to evade this 9 month block and/or now indefinite topic ban, you may be blocked indefinitely. Consider this as your last chance before getting an indefinite block. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 12:41, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

talk to me, you must be mistaken. While it’s true that I have violated copyright, edit warred, added unsourced information, as well S various other infractions in the past, I have not sockpuppeted (is that the right term?). I really only check my email notifications on this account and it appears that there is now an indefinite ban on me. I truly have been waiting out the 3 month ban (I read the investigation) and stopped editing because other edits were boring. I am not this other user, I am not related to nor friends with him/her/them. While I looked a little and they seem to have similar interests, it is not me. Please remove this, as this is just one large misunderstanding. I hope you can understand. Thank you and happy editing! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 17:30, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

 Confirmed sockpuppetry. The technical evidence is very clear here. You are very lucky this block was not indefinite; it still could be. --Yamla (talk) 17:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

talk, I’m sorry, technical evidence? What does that mean? I honestly know that I’ve done things wrong before, but not here. I was also falsely accused of advertising when I really only didn’t know the username policy. I really only have one account and this is it. Please reconsider this block. I have waited almost two months, my ban was almost over. Why is everyone so opposed to me editing here! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 18:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

You didn't wait two months though, you created another account and used that instead. There's no sense denying it. – bradv🍁 19:43, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

I suggest reading the page about checkusers to find out what technical evidence is. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 21:47, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Lima Bean Farmer. Since you can't stay away from politics, I have a suggestion. Why not join WPTC when you're block is up? We are in need of editors, and I think you would be an asset to us. You may get unblocked earlier, and I highly recommend doing it, to avoid further trouble(and because we need help). --Hurricane Tracker 495 22:08, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Hurricane, you’re the only person here who seems to be assuming good faith towards me here. Before I attempt to respond to anyone else, could you please explain to me what WPTC is? Thank you and happy editing! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 00:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

WP: WPTC is the WikiProject for tropical cyclones. --Hurricane Tracker 495 00:34, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Hurricane, it’s very kind of you to say that I would be a valuable asset to the project, but out of curiosity, why would you think this? Especially since you relate it to politics. Once again, I appreciate it, but could you tell me why? This may help me get unblocked. Thank you! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 04:31, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I have to retract the offer, actually. See User talk: HurricaneTracker495#User: Lima Bean Farmer. --Hurricane Tracker 495 13:26, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

I would like to also say that I was very close to deciding on an indefinite block. I hope that you can learn from this, which is why I moved to a block with an expiry. Denial won't help your cause, especially as multiple CUs have found that it was confirmed sockpuppetry. Denial is also very likely to lead to your topic ban remaining in force indefinitely, as I can't see how such an appeal would be successful if you haven't owned up. It will be a benefit for you to be as honest as you can, regardless of whether you control both accounts. You may appeal this block, but as its an AE action, such an appeal would go to WP:AN, WP:AE, or WP:ARCA. Based on the confirmation and also the behavioral evidence too, I would not be undoing my action unless you own up to it. I am also very unlikely to accept an appeal of the block until 6 months has passed without any sockpuppetry. You may of course appeal at AN, AE or ARCA at any time, but such an appeal is from my experience unlikely to be accepted until some time has passed. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 22:22, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

talk to me, is there anything I can do to make this better? If I am being honest, I am a good faith editor. I am not here to taunt other editors, to purposefully disrupt pages, or to vandalize. Neither am I here to push the limits on rules by making a bunch of sockpuppets or ignoring other editors. I genuinely want to be friendly with other editors and work constructively. On the other hand, I’m not trying to be some role model editor or admin or anything like that. I’m only human. Not saying anyone else isn’t (other than the bots), but I don’t have that much time to edit Wikipedia or be someone who does administrative work with the website itself. I attempted to do some editing on the 2020 elections which continually got me in trouble. I have been working on improving as an editor since the beginning. I add reliable sources, I recognize independent and secondary sources, I have helped resolve conflicts, and I have an idea on what does and doesn’t belong. It seems that you and various other editors have been fed up with me and will do whatever they can to prevent me from editing. Once again, I really am only interested in politics, I tried doing other things but they just got so boring after a while. Wikipedia is a hobby and politics are more of a passion. In addition, I haven’t ever added my personal politics into editing Wikipedia. I know that stating things that I didn’t do wrong may not be helping me, but it’s worth a shot at this point. My main focus has been to improve wikipedia on the subject I know (American politics) and learn how to become a better Wikipedia editor. If the wiki community no longer wants these services from me, I understand. Please let me know if there’s anything I can do, and I will genuinely do my best to make it up to you and the community, but if you think that I have no option (other than waiting 9 months and then indefinitely) to edit Wikipedia again, I will understand. Thank you for your time. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 07:54, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

The block is for using an undisclosed alternate account to avoid a previous sanction. This needs to be addressed before any other issue, including how likely it is to reoccur if you were unblocked but still banned from American Politics. Also per Dreamy Jazz above, you'd be better off waiting quite a time before appealing, then drafting an appeal for AN or similar and hoping that community patience hasn't already run out. Unfortunately that's a possibility at this stage. -- Euryalus (talk) 10:17, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Euryalus. What would you suggest I do, just wait it out and reconsider in a month or so? I’m open to pretty much anything at this point just to make new constructive edits. I actually thought Wikipedia was a fun place, I just want some way to edit again under any condition. Thanks again. Your friend, Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 10:28, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

I think you need to start here: Did you use a sockpuppet account to evade a sanction? You've said no above, but there is reportedly clear evidence confirmed by more than one checkuser. I also think a month isn't going to cut it - Dreamy Jazz's suggestion seems a more realistic time frame. It's a shame that tha is so, but you really have racked up an impressive list of sanctions in a fairly short time! -- Euryalus (talk) 11:13, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Euryalus, I know it seems that way. In addition, you have been very kind and patient with me. Dreamy Jazz has a 9 month block and an indefinite ban on me. To be completely truthful, an unblock wouldn’t really be very beneficial without an unban (although I’ll take it if offered). If I say that I am running both accounts, do you think that would help or hurt my case? Thank you again, Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 15:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Well you clearly are, so I'd just be honest and say so.

You seem like a reasonable person but given the number of issues to date I'm wondering if en-WP editing is the right hobby for you. However, if you do want to keep at it I'd suggest finding something else to do for several months (italics for emphasis), and coming back with a detailed outline of how you understand policies and guidelines on verifiability, neutrality and sockpuppetry, plus what you'd like to edit and why it would be a benefit to en-WP's editing objectives to let you do so.

Be prepared for a fair bit of doubt on this front, and for a continued topic ban from American Politics as that's where the difficulties have been. And don't sockpuppet in the interim - even without checkuser evidence your editing patterns are fairly easy to detect. -- Euryalus (talk) 20:37, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

So, Euryalus, you don’t think I’ll be able to edit American politics ever again? This was the only thing I was unclear of in your above statement. Thank you. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 02:28, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

I reckon it would be a hard sell to get the topic ban without evidence of collegiate and trouble-free editing in other areas, which you're not going to be able to amass while blocked. But that's just my opinion, actual appeal outcome will be up to the community at AE or AN. -- Euryalus (talk) 06:04, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Euryalus. You have been more helpful and patient with me than you had to be, which I greatly appreciate. Ok talk to me, I’m ready to make a deal. If I tell you everything, will you at least agree to hear my case and keep an open mind? I will be completely honest. Keeping an open mind on my ban is the only request I have in return. Thank you. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 03:52, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Dreamy Jazz, can you please agree to the condition? It’s the holidays and I want to know if I’ll ever be able to edit again. Thank you. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 00:58, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Lima Bean Farmer, your approach here appears to be a category error. You seem to be attempting to negotiate a plea bargain or something, but this is not a cop show; and the only person you're punishing by not following the process is you (at least, assuming you want a chance at having your ban overturned). Note these errors in your reasoning:

• No-one is likely to have their sympathy for you increased by your implying that they normally do not have an open mind. Yet that is the approach you have taken with DJ.
• No-one wants to spend more time on your case than necessary, especially on the holidays. I.e. they are unlikely to want to agree to the condition or play other non-procedural games you might invent. Yet that is the approach you have taken with DJ.
• The onus is, and has been ever since the sockpuppet investigation outcome, on you to follow the process if you want to have a chance of having your editing rights restored. Yet you are still avoiding this.

On Wikipedia, honesty is generally the best policy. I suggest that you take a break, reflect on the above, read the policies and guidelines and enjoy the holidays. If you decide at some point that you can follow the process, then do so and try to accept the outcome graciously. Zazpot (talk) 07:24, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Your pings have not been working for me. Ensure that you link my userpage and also place your signature in the same edit. You can use {{ping|Dreamy Jazz}} to link my userpage.

I am perfectly happy to hear your case and also will keep an open mind. I would say that as its Christmas, I'll be leaving this till later. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 08:42, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you @Dreamy Jazz:! I’ll tell you everything tomorrow. And, since it seems you celebrate it, have a Merry Christmas! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 17:45, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

2022 Sri Lankan presidential election

Hi @Lima Bean Farmer:! I noticed you added subsections (not nominated & declined) under the section for the Candidates. But, what is the necessity of having a subsection like "not nominated"? Listing Mahinda Yapa Abeywardena under that section does not have a meaning because the Speaker of the Parliament CAN NOT run for this type of Presidential Elections. Did Sumanthiran ever mention about running for the presidency. Only Fonseca said he is ready to run. And per this source provided at Maithripala Sirisena, it was in August 2021 (when no one knew there will be a Presidential Election in 2022) that he was requested by the party to run for 2024 Presidential election which is a completely different topic. Hope you understand my point. Thank you. 🔮Plpm2021💬 12:52, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Plpm2021:! Thank you for reaching out. Usually in election pages, there are candidates that are mentioned in reliable sources. This is common in pages like this. However, if you don’t think they belong, I think it would be worth asking on the talk page to get a better consensus. All of the candidates I added were reliably sourced and the president initially said he’d run in the next election but withdrew. Either way, thank you for reaching out and for spending time on the Sri Lanka page! Happy editing, Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 14:12, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

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Hi, Lima Bean Farmer. Per AE consensus, your request to have your topic ban lifted has been declined. However, with Dreamy Jazz' consent, I have reduced its scope to post-1992 American politics, rather than the previous scope of post-1932 American politics. If you wish to successfully appeal the TBAN in the future, I would encourage you to edit more actively. As I've noted in my close at AE, if you are unsure whether a given article or edit would fall under the TBAN, you can always ask Dreamy Jazz, or if they're not around, ask at WP:AN. At a minimum, though, the scope of articles you said you wish to edit should now be "safe" in almost all cases; there's very few notable WWII figures who remained politically relevant into the '90s. Happy editing. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 19:18, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

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