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It's fairly clear you have the hang of creating articles, you don't need to submit them through AfC anymore. SImply go to the title of a new article you would like to create, and where it says (assuming that no article with that name exists) something like You may create the page "ARTICLENAME",, click where it says ARTICLENAME in red, and start editing! If you have any questions, feel free to ask me on my talk page, or alternatively at the WP:Teahouse. Thank you for all the effort you are putting into improving Wikipedia's coverage of Indonesian weapons! --j⚛e decker^talk 16:46, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

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What does "Piso Halasan" mean?

Hi, I just copyedited the article Piso Halasan. Thanks for creating the article! Do you know what the literal meaning of the word is? I am wondering because I am not sure if the name should be capitalized. Most kinds of weapons are not capitalized (e.g., longsword, dagger). "Piso" is used in the names of many traditional Indonesian swords; if it literally means "sword", it should probably not be capitalized. Thanks, Tdslk (talk) 07:03, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi. It is common for the indigenous people in the Malay archipelago to refer to things that way. For example, the Sikin Panyang. There are many types of Sikins out there but that doesn't mean you can refer to the Sikin Panyang as literally 'sikin Panyang' or just 'Panyang'. It doesn't make any sense; as there is also the Parang Panyang and Keris Panyang. Panyang means 'long'. For example, 'he used the Panyang (long) to clear the bushes.' just doesn't make any sense as to the word itself and which or what Panyang are you referring to. Same thing goes with just about anything in the ordinary everyday stuff when referring to something specific. I understand if you're seeing it from the English language standpoint, but that's not the case with the locals here. For example (correct me if I'm wrong tho) the Excalibur sword, it's not a problem to refer it as 'the Excalibur' (to drop the word 'sword' or using small caps) but never 'the Excalibur Sword'. It is a common knowledge or understanding among the locals when referring to something specific that comes with two words, you can't or don't normally separate the two or drop one of them. I don't know if I give you the best answer or if my answer doesn't make any sense to you, but I tried with my best abilities. Although these articles (on topics such as anthropology, linguistic, cultural, etc) are written in the English Wikipedia, I hope it's written in a way to help people to understand foreign cultures better. Thank you.--Jeblat (talk) 11:18, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. Your articles definitely help people learn about foreign cultures! My question was about whether to write "Piso Halasan" or "piso halasan". Generally, "piso halasan" would be correct in English unless, for example, "Halasan" refers to a specific place or person. For example, "longsword" is not capitalized, but the first "S" in "Swiss saber" is because it refers to Switzerland. Tdslk (talk) 17:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I got what you mean. It's either just "piso" or "Piso Halasan".--Jeblat (talk) 08:07, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Diannaa.. The source material was not the text but a table. I'm aware of writing in articles with material source as a reference support, not copy-paste. But in this case it's a table, not a text/essay, so I might have done it wrongly or maybe you can enlighten me on this. Also could it be that there is a copyright mentioned in the article somewhere? I did cite the author and publisher as well. Thanks. Jeblat (talk) 07:06, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

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The flag template I used for the Wolani people is for the province of Papua, not the country. It displays the flag of the province and links to the province's wikipedia page. I do understand however, how this might be confusing to readers, with the similarity in name (and the fact that I believe Papua New Guinea is sometimes referred to colloquially as Papua), and that people might be less familiar with provincial flags. I'd be fine with changing it to a wikilink reading [[Papua (province)|Papua province]] or {{flagicon|Papua}} [[Papua (province)|Papua province]]. Let me know what you think. Plandu (talk) 19:19, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointing it out. Really appreciate it. Let's discuss it at Talk:Wolani people page. -Jeblat (talk) 12:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

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About ainu/sources

Hello, here is one genetic research about origin of ainu/jomon: you need to click in the pdf and than you can read the full article.(https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/pjab/85/2/85_2_69/_article)

Here is the result: “Their findings indicate that the indigenous Japanese people, i.e., the Ainu, belong to the northern Mongoloid group, and are in good agreement with our results that the Ainu have the northern Mongoloid Gm genes at higher pro- portions than the present-day Japanese people. —> indigenous japanese/ainu/jomon. If ainu and ryukyuans have more northern dna and are more jomon, it is clear that jomon are of northern asian origin. They are paleo-mongoloid and not australoid”

Another research that shows that southern mongoloids have no or only very less australoid/negrito admixture. It is said the highest australoid/negrito admixture is is some small tribes in southern Philippines and indonesia with about 9% australoid/negrito blood.(not very much)

Here a new research that shows that mongoloid people was already present 159.000 years ago in southern china: (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/250376782_Minatogawa_Man_the_Oldest_Type_of_Modern_Homo_sapiens_in_East_Asia) and (Rosenburg, Karen (2002). "A Late Pleistocene Human Skeleton from Liujiang, China Suggests Regional Population Variation in Sexual Dimorphism in the Human Pelvis". Variability and Evolution.)

Here a new research from 2018 that shows that mongoloid is mich older than thought and that modern humans(mongoloids) was in east asia and other parts of asia longer than 2 million years ago. Scientists call it the “out-of-asia” theory or the multi-origin theory of humans: (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/05/01/101410) Modern human origins: multiregional evolution of autosomes and East Asia origin of Y and mtDNA (Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory)

The negrito and australoid tribes lived only in small numbers in parts of southeast asia. They got displaced mostly, only some mixed. The negritos of southeast asia got displaced and today small numbers live on the malay peninsula. The negritos of indonesia mostly got displaced. Today are mostly non-existent. The negritos of the Philippines exists still as small tribes. Only on papua they are the majority.

It is beliced that when the mongoloid people came to indonesia and southeast asia, there were only 200.000 negrito people. Compared to more than 4 million mongoloid people traveling to indonesia.

I will search more sources if you want, maybe next week. I am currently on holiday. Greetings 212.95.8.241 (talk) 15:44, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I've copy-pasted your entry in Talk:Proto-Malay#About ainu/sources so that others might participate on the topic. -Jeblat (talk) 15:21, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Jeblat,

No, "Melanesian" isn't an ethnic group, not even close. We don't have an ethno info box for Negroid, for example. I see we do for Indigenous peoples of the Americas, but from the way it's presented it's clear that we're not saying "Indian" is a single ethnic group. From your response to my removal of the info box, it seems we haven't made that point clear in the case of Melanesians. I suppose we could put the box back if it were redone to make that point. E.g., lose the photo, reword the rubric so it's clear we're talking about multiple peoples, etc. — kwami (talk) 21:02, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

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About parang and golok

Too much debate, the fact is parang and golok come from Indonesia! Created by Pribumi. We speak originated! not who is wearing

Origin: Indonesia Region: Malay Archipelago or maritime southeast asia Jayaagung (talk) 11:29, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

The option Place origin: Indonesia Region: Malay archipelago or Maritime southeast asia Jayaagung (talk) 11:32, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Please carry out the discussion at Talk:Parang (knife)#Origins so that it will be easier for the public to participate in the discussion. Thank you. -Jeblat (talk) 06:17, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

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Maka dengan rasa hormat saya harap diskusi dan perdebatan ini berakhir kita harus berhenti untuk “terus menyunting” halaman ini, sejarah dengan jelas menyatakan parang dan golok dari maksud segi nama, bentuk, filosofi dan adat kebudayaannya memiliki ikatan yang sangat kuat bagi indonesia dibanding negara lain, jika anda berkata parang dan golok ada jauh sebelum indonesia merdeka, maka seharusnya anda juga menyunting berbagai macam makanan dan budaya sebagai milik bersama seperti rendang yang dikatakan wikipedia berasal dari indonesia, nasi lemak berasal dari malaysia, dan pizzapun berasal dari italia seharusnya ketiganya anda juga perbaiki? karena ketiga negara tersebut belum ada ketika makanan tersebut terbentuk? Bagaimana pendapat anda? Jayaagung (talk) 19:59, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

@Jayaagung: I don't know why you wouldn't carry out the discussion at Talk:Parang (knife)#Origins. Modern Italy was founded in 1861. The first pizza was created in 1889. -Jeblat (talk) 14:25, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Parang punya indonesia my bro... Alam Bashari (talk) 13:38, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

@Jeblat: hi! It seems you have done a lot of debates about the machete and machete problem. sources have been proven that parang, golok, come from Indonesia Alam Bashari (talk) 13:45, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

@Alam Bashari: If you have reliable scholarly resources that indicates the origins especially from an ethnographic standpoint, please provide the links. Do not discuss it on my Talk page but discuss it in Talk:Parang (knife) instead so others could participate in the discussion. Also, please READ the edit summary that I've given "Changes on the subject will be made until there's further discussion that leads to a consensus. Please be reminded not to engage in Wikipedia:Edit warring here but active discussion in Talk:Parang (knife)#Origins is encouraged." The reason for the editing summary is because nobody would prefer to participate in the discussion but rather engage in Wikipedia:Edit warring style of repeating the same edit. I would encourage you not to do any Wikipedia:Edit warring until a general public consensus is reached, and also do read up Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. Thank you. -Jeblat (talk) 03:27, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

@Alam Bashari: Also, I've just reversed your edits on Parang (knife). Please read my reverse summary carefully. I've read through the sources cited by previous editors. -Jeblat (talk) 03:31, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Ok my broo👌🏻 Alam Bashari (talk) 04:06, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Citations in Dayak people article

Jeblat, pls indicate defects of the citations on Dayak people rather than removing them to minimize time reinserting them. Or as the editor, you can correct or improve them. Removing them is anti-constructive to content developemnt in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:1980:102:A5F9:2D00:A3C2:2650:398C (talk) 12:42, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

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pls indicate defects of the citations on Dayak people rather than removing them to minimize time reinserting them.: I've already mentioned that you should follow the appropriate citation format as seen in Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing sources. But it seems like you didn't read it or simply not bothered.

Or as the editor, you can correct or improve them.: Instead of taking time to go through Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing sources, you've kept on repeating the same edits even after you've been advised in the editing summary multiple times. As you've mentioned here, you too could take the time to go through Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing sources to improve on the contents of the article. You can't simply repeating the same editing mistakes and expect others to do follow up and do the clean up for you. As you might have already noticed, Dayak people, Iban people and a number of Dayak related articles are facing a lot of these problems. Adding more of this poor edits are not helping but only piling up the mess.

Removing them is anti-constructive to content developemnt in Wikipedia.: I truly appreciate your good will editing in the Dayak article. To help out, please register a username (instead of using multiple IP addresses, for whatever reasons it may be), be an active contributor, read through Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing sources, read examples of high grades articles to understand what a good quality encyclopedia article looks like, be a constructive contributor instead of piling up more and more editing inconsistencies in the articles.

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Jeblat, pls elaborate on your reason to remove the citation for each of them. Do not remove them en bloc. I improved the citations as you required but you removed them en bloc. Why didn't you accept them?

I choose to remain anonymous and I stated facts, not fake and i'm trying to prove what I said by inserting citations but you remove them en bloc. Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.164.95.120 (talk) 10:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

I've addressed your first comment here, part by part. I'm not sure how that is isn't any more clearer for you to understand.

pls elaborate on your reason to remove the citation for each of them.: Please read my first comment all over again.

I improved the citations as you required but you removed them en bloc. Why didn't you accept them?: Please see the second point again in my first comment.

If you still want further elaboration on why I removed every single citation that you've made, please take some time to go through all of my comments all over again at the above. Thank you. -Jeblat (talk) 17:13, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Jeblat, you undo my edits to revert to Citation needed in the military section. I repaired the citations to conform to your or Wikipedia's standard citation format as much as I could understand. If these edits are still not right, pls repair them according to your standard format. Newspaper sources are acceptable, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.164.47.254 (talk) 14:06, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

I repaired the citations to conform to your or Wikipedia's standard citation format as much as I could understand.: In that case, I highly doubt that you did read through Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing sources and Wikipedia:Citing sources thoroughly.

If these edits are still not right, pls repair them according to your standard format.: It was never my standard format. I've already given the answer to this in the second point of my first comment here; which I'm not sure if you actually read it too. -Jeblat (talk) 03:55, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Introducing Indonesian grammar into English

Hello. Please refrain from introducing Indonesian grammar into English-language articles. I can't follow your line of thought whatsoever. [3] Why would you revert an important edit with grammar corrections just because you didn't like one aspect of it? Why?? This makes no sense at all. Please show more care in the future and refrain from disrupting Wikipedia. If you speak English, can't you see how horrible Indonesian grammar sounds when plastered into English??? If previously they were usually identified by two or four dialects but then among the opinions of modern specialists What kind of sentence is this?? 83.21.48.23 (talk) 17:36, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for my tone above, but the plague of "undoing everything" is getting annoying. It's deeply pervasive. I would just like to ask you to be more careful when reverting edits, and make sure that you don't miss important corrections, be it grammar or anything else. 83.21.48.23 (talk) 17:42, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

I overlooked the grammar on the previous edits. I only highlighted the changes on the removal of Malayo-Sumbawan languages. Apart from that I've got no issues with your edits. -Jeblat (talk) 03:12, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

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