User talk:Jaydubp

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Lex Luthor[edit]

I can tell your edits at Lex Luthor are meant to improve the article, but you seem unfamiliar with how Wikipedia works. You are in no position to issue a "final warning" as you did in this edit summary. You are also claiming that only DC Comics can issue an opinion on what constitutes a "first appearance", but DC Comics is considered a primary source for any information relating to itself. Wikipedia gives more weight to third party sources, and ideally avoids primary sources when possible. You can read more about sources at this page. You can also view past discussions the Wikipedia community has had regarding first appearances here and here.

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Please continue your contributions to this article by starting a talk page discussion about what you want to do, and gain consensus before making changes to the article. Consider this a warning that any further edit-warring will result in you being blocked. BOZ (talk) 18:48, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to discuss in either here or here. Thank you. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 19:21, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies. My source is not the Library of Congress but newsstand house ad of the 1940’s. But still we go by release date. Not by publication or copyright date. Since my edits clearly stated both are first appearance in two different ways I don’t see the problem. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 19:31, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Release Dates are only" Approximate" from the ERA[edit]

As your only citation "mike" also says on his site, release dates are only "approximate" for the era. DC DID NOT REPORT THIS INFO BACK THEN, SO NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE. "Mike" specifically disclaims that in the pop up (which in fact also shows an EARLIER copyright for Action 23).

For you to attempt to literally rewrite 80 years of DC canon on Wikipedia on something so flimsy, and without any support from any actual comic book authority (like Overstreet) or from the publisher DC comics, to pursue some odd agenda, is not what Wikipedia is supposed to be about.

Regards, -jaydubp

Quit assuming bad faith. All My edits say they were released in the same month. Which is true. Therefore there is nothing wrong with my edits. Especially what the lead says. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 19:47, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you tried to water it down once I started communicating with you. However you are still attempting to conflate Superman 4 with "first appearance", and it is not. Just because it came out the same month, or even contemporaneously with Action Comics 23 does not make it a "first appearance" or even a "tie" for "first appearance". One specifically follows the other in DC canon, which is why DC, Overstreet, and everyone else calls Action 23 the first appearance and nothing else. You are attempting to use Wikipedia to create a datapoint for your agenda, and yes, I called you out on it. Fact of the matter is, even "mike's" does not say what you were first attempting to edit. -jaydubp