User talk:Jasynnash2/Archive2 - Institute of Peace and related stuff

Institute of peace

Am I missing something.. Why is it such a big deal for these dudes from Sri Lanka to delete the dedicated article?

Is there some major political conspiracy that I am unaware of?

Personally I really couldn't care. The institute is a minor organisation that barely deserves a mention on wikipedia..however I don't like to think that people are adding/deleting/merging/moving articles in order to further their own political agenda.

Can you shed any light on the bullshit? Sennen goroshi (talk) 16:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• I'm probably not the best person to address this to as I have a number of issues with the article (and the BS that is going on around it). Please don't bring any political opinions for or against this article (or its contents) to me. If you really couldn't care I ask that you not behave like what many people term a troll. Personally, I'm beginning to have trouble Assuming Good Faith with yourself or the other main user involved. Jasynnash2 (talk) 16:35, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I think you may have misunderstood me and my motives behind my edits. Sometimes my attitude is a touch abrasive, but on this particular article there was no bias on my part. I really don't give a fuck about the institute of peace, if it has its own article or not. The only opinion I had about the article was that it didnt seem notable to be on the Diana article, if something of no importance has its own article, I dont really care at all.

I dont mind if you consider me to be rude or a troll, perhaps that is close to the truth at times, however I would be annoyed/frustrated if you thought that I was a sockpuppet or had some form of political agenda, because that is about as far from the truth as is possible.

I was just a little confused/interested in the background of this inter-drama, until today I was not aware that it had previously been deleted...and I was wondering, why do these people care so much? anyway laters. Sennen goroshi (talk) 16:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Added more details (Legacy section) Diana, Princess of Wales

I have added some more details with reference as the article "(Sri Lanka)Princess Diana Institue of Peace" was speedily deleted. I am expecting your input there.Bermudatriangle (talk) 17:11, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

sockpuppet? moi?

I don't think so. I also think that when I accuse someone, I have the decency to back it up with evidence.

I have "thought" that many people are likely to be sockpuppets, but I have the manners to keep it to myself, until such time as evidence supports my suspicions.

I had an ironic laugh when I read the notice at the top of your talk page, asking people to be civil assume good faith. From the time I asked you an innocent question http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jasynnash2&diff=cur&oldid=209721738 you have assumed bad faith when it comes to me. I have replied in a civil manner, when it would have been easy to respond to your bad faith assumptions, with yet more bad faith.

I really would like you to provide one piece of evidence, either something technical (an IP address etc), something time/date related, some shared grammatical error, similar edit summaries, anything - that points towards me being a sockpuppet, or even points to me being the new account of a previous editor.

Otherwise, I wouldn't mind an apology for your attitude, I have been civil towards you, you have assumed bad faith - just because I am stubborn and I like some of the more controversial articles, does not make me a sockpuppet. When I accuse someone, I back it up, I make an ANI/3RR/Sockpuppet report, and I list the evidence. So either list some evidence, or apologise.

Sennen goroshi (talk) 13:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

• I also asked for you and the other user to leave me alone. I assumed good faith from the very beginning (at the first AN/I, the talk page(s), 2nd AN/I, etc. The behaviour of yourself and the other user involved made me change my mind. Perhaps, after I've had some time away from the both of you I will be prepared to re-evaluate things. I never said you WERE any of these things. I simply said it was possible. Not wanting to further the wikidrama I haven't filed a report of any sort and I'll say again please leave me alone on these issues. I tried to help. It didn't work. Please don't make me feel even worse about the whole thing by commenting over and over again. When I've had some time I may look at things again and then I may apologise but, for now I can't. Jasynnash2 (talk) 13:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry, but it is unrealistic to make accusations against someone, and then request that they not comment on those accusations. I also think that to say "possible" does not make something any less insulting.

I have no issue with you having a different opinion than mine, I do however take great offence to your holier than thou attitude, in which you assume bad faith, you make your bad faith public and then you accuse me of being a sockpuppet.

Shall I phrase this in a manner more suitable for you? I think it is possible that your comments constitute a personal attack. I also think it is possible that you ignoring the fact that you should assume good faith. I also think it is possible that your accusations are absurd. I also think it is possible that it is equally absurd to insult someone, accuse them, and then say you don't want them to comment on the fact - did my use of the word possible, make that all easier to take?

feel free to apologise or never make such comments/accusations relating to me again. Sennen goroshi (talk) 13:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

• How is this. I'm sorry I said you may be a sockpuppet or secondary account. I am sorry that you took any of my statements as a personal attack. Please be assured they were not meant that way. As I said before I was trying to help. I assumed good faith from the beginning and I have no doubt this can be verified by other people by looking at my input. I am quite fed up with the whole situation and that is why I made the statements I did. Yes, the other user must accept blame for his behaviour but, I feel it is totally reasonable for you to accept some responsibility for your actions as well. I'm asking you and the other user to leave me alone so that I may have some time to "cool off". I'm asking you to please not comment on here (my talk page)about Diana, the content in dispute, the other user, or matters pertaining to those for awhile so that I may cool off. Be assured that once I've had that chance and no longer feel the negative feelings I am feeling at the moment that the assumption of good faith will begin anew. Jasynnash2 (talk) 14:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC)