User talk:HJensen/Archives/2008/June
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Djokovic
Hi, may I ask why you undid the ball-bouncing comment on the Djokovic page? I feel that there needs to be something said about it even though it's unsourced. Practically every commentator at this year's French open talks about it. Even now, with his match against Mathieu, Woody is talking about it. Sandman30s (talk) 13:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Because it was unsourced and therefore could not be verified. As verification is a cornerstone of wikipedia, it cannot be in the article like that. Find a ref. --HJensen, talk 17:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Tennis names
In case you hadn't seen them already, here are four items that you might want to look at: 1, 2, 3, 4. Redux is not around right now, and various administrators are prepared to block and revert people who attempt to rename tennis articles and players according to the English alphabet. I've given up the cause because apparently not one administrator other than Redux is prepared to support the English alphabet in this respect. Tennis expert (talk) 22:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! I have seen it, and posted my opinion there now. I think it is a sad situation. The Djokovic article took months to get the English name after some sensible admins stepped in and overruled a group of nationalistic Serbs (of which one did some tennis edits) that claimed this spelling was just "wrong" and oppressive. I think these people forget that this is the English wiki, not the Serbian wiki. Good God, I could start a lot of hassle if I want to implement native Danish names on articles on the English wiki. I could start by changing "Copenhagen" into "Kobenhavn" and call any attempt to undo it for illiterate, disrespectful, and so on. I think that analogy fits quite perfect. --HJensen, talk 22:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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Yes I can, because that is the only right spelling. If you think we should change to Djokovic, than we must change all other Serbian, Croatian, Bosnik, and Polish names. Open new voting for all non-English names if you want to make something. Whitout that this is only double standard. --Pockey (talk) 13:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- You have no idea about wikipedia policies. Read the talk-page discussions as a minimum starter. Just because you don't "like" something, you cannot go against consensus. --HJensen, talk 14:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think I have. I am user almost 5 years and I don't want to adore settement of one very small group of users. If you open one real voting where we should see comments of Serbian and Croatina speaking users, i will adore that whit delight. Voting will be soon, but it is going to be much better if you open it. Regards, --Pockey (talk) 16:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- If so experienced, why then ignore consensus reached on a talk page of an article? It is well known that one is not allowed to do that (future votings pending or not). --HJensen, talk 16:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Your voting is not legitime. Small group of users can't change sach a big thing. You must reopen voting. --Pockey (talk) 16:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- There never was a "vote" on the Djokovic page. Consensus was reached after a long process involving many, many editors. Do you actually have any idea about what I am talking about? I am talking about the Djokovic article. Nothing else. For that article, a consensus was reached. Read the talk page(s). You are deliberately acting against established consensus, which I think is against wikipedia policy. Or do you have special privelegies? --HJensen, talk 16:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Don't vory. Soon or later all Serbs will have the same standards here. --Pockey (talk) 17:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I am sorry to convey this to you: This has nothing to do with Serbs. You seem to be pushing some nationalistic agenda by that statement, which is not very charming. But anyway, please don't disrupt established consensus. --HJensen, talk 19:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- You don't understand. This has nothing whit nationalism. I am the last person here who is nationalist :). Aldought, Đoković is Serb, and his name must be teat here like other Serbians. If he is a tennis player, that does not mean he is ultra-extra man. Everything else is double standard. Regards, --Pockey (talk) 14:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't care if he is a tennis player, Serb, or even Martian. The current consensus on his article is that one should use the English spelling of his name. There is no such thing as "must be teated (sic)". That is just your opinion. Your opinion does not carry ay more weight than others. And you do know that his is the English wikipedia and not the Serbian wikipedia? Right? Hence, it is legitimate to discuss what representaiton one should give a name in English. Cheers. --HJensen, talk 22:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- You don't understand. This has nothing whit nationalism. I am the last person here who is nationalist :). Aldought, Đoković is Serb, and his name must be teat here like other Serbians. If he is a tennis player, that does not mean he is ultra-extra man. Everything else is double standard. Regards, --Pockey (talk) 14:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- I am sorry to convey this to you: This has nothing to do with Serbs. You seem to be pushing some nationalistic agenda by that statement, which is not very charming. But anyway, please don't disrupt established consensus. --HJensen, talk 19:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Your voting is not legitime. Small group of users can't change sach a big thing. You must reopen voting. --Pockey (talk) 16:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- If so experienced, why then ignore consensus reached on a talk page of an article? It is well known that one is not allowed to do that (future votings pending or not). --HJensen, talk 16:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think I have. I am user almost 5 years and I don't want to adore settement of one very small group of users. If you open one real voting where we should see comments of Serbian and Croatina speaking users, i will adore that whit delight. Voting will be soon, but it is going to be much better if you open it. Regards, --Pockey (talk) 16:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Frank Zappa
I saw you edited the Zappa article. You may be interested in reading Cannabis Culture & Cost in the Discussion page of this Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Joseph_Cormier DoDaCanaDa (talk) 14:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
From one FZ fan to another
Thought you might find this interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3PQ9U9hy7A —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.167.65.108 (talk) 13:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)