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WikiProject Rock music Newsletter for October 2008

The Rock music WikiProject Newsletter
Issue 9 - October 2008
"As long as my face is on page one, I don't care what they say about me on page seventeen."- Mick Jagger
Project news
  • The project has a total of 106 GAs and 91 Featured Articles and Lists put together.
  • We collaborated on Soul Bomb.
  • Help us select good versions of WP:ROCK articles for inclusion on the Wikipedia 0.7 release! Find out more about Wikipedia 0.7 selection on the project talk page and add your thoughts to the discussion. If you are personally responsible for a Featured or Good Article listed here, please the select a version to include in Wikipedia 0.7 on that page if you haven't already. Page versions must be selected by October 20.
  • The genres in infobox fields have been removed cause of the discussion found here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music#Time to remove genre section on info box?. You can provide any opinions you may have about this.
  • This month's "Recommended Rock Album" is Soundgarden - Superunknown (1994).

Editors

User:Be Black Hole Sun

Be Black Hole Sun (talk · contribs)

Thanks for the newsletter. GunMetal Angel

Buckethead task force

You are invited to join the Buckethead task force, a group dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to Buckethead. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.

--Say Headcheese!--hexaChord2 15:33, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, gawd I love the good ol' BC, him and his incredibility with the amazing acts of him met with what seems that he intentionally performs them anonymously. I'll join this when I get the time. Thanks. GunMetal Angel

Fine! --Say Headcheese!--hexaChord2 23:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Uhh... Headcheese! -- GunMetal Angel
Ya don't have da eat it, just --Say Headcheese!--hexaChord2 01:15, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

No U. GunMetal Angel

Since yer still no member I have to re-invite you. ;-) ----Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord2 07:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Done! — GunMetal Angel 19:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

IP

Done. Let me know if there's any further vandalism to your page. Dreadstar 01:29, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. GunMetal Angel 22:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Informative

Ah, thanks for the information - good day. ≈ The Haunted Angel 14:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas. Chubbennaitor 17:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Seven days to it! Thanks, and I got snow here for the first time in a long while today. GunMetal Angel 18:34, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Matchbook Romance

I've added the article to my watchlist and will help keep an eye on it. Right now it doesn't look like the vandalism is heavy or persistent enough to semi-protect, but if it gets worse I'll protect it. And a Merry Christmas to you! Dreadstar 18:47, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I see you had to do this right after responding to me...so I was convinced.... :) Semi'd for a month. I'll keep it on my watchlist after that, but let me know if it continues. Dreadstar 22:13, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Stuff like that happens like every day to Matchbook Romance. Even some days I found even over 5 edits to the genre. GunMetal Angel 06:21, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Avenged Sevenfold

I want to summon you to the Avenged Sevenfold talk page to discuss about the genrre issue before an edit war would occur.--F-22 Raptor IV 15:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

When I get to Sevenfold's problems, I will pay the talk page a visit. Possibly today, and thank you for letting me know. GunMetal Angel 15:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

News from Bucketheadland

News from Bucketheadland Issue 1 - January 22, 2009


Whoops

[1] Hmm. I searched for the IP using Ctrl+F in the talk page before doing the revert, and found nothing, so I assumed it was arbitrary genre-changing. But then I looked again after you re-reverted, and found this discussion.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Have a nice day. 21655 ταλκ/01ҁ 23:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

News from Bucketheadland

News from Bucketheadland Issue 2 - January 30, 2009


LOL, nice. — GunMetal Angel 23:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

February 2009

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary for your edits. Thank you. Timmeh! 02:59, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Will be more aware of that for future edits, I understand the edit comparison screens do not exactly show everything that someone's edit has affected towards the article. GunMetal Angel 03:03, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

News from Bucketheadland

News from Bucketheadland Issue 3 - February 25, 2009


Nice name for his new album! Haha, Little House on the Prairie parody. GunMetal Angel 20:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Articles in need...

Dear member or guest of the Buckethead task force! The project needs you urgently: Ten Buckethead related articles are currently nominated for deletion here and here. Please have a look and let's see if you can help! --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord2 13:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Sourcing articles is not vandelism.

Re [2]: please read wp:v, and do not mark article sourcing and the removal of unsourced material as vandalism. -- Jeandré, 2009-03-08t19:35z

Chiodos

May I ask why you undid my addition of orcahestral hardcore on the Bone Palace Ballet? it was sourced, however it was from a newspaper article and I am unsure of how I should make this clear Addug (talk) 22:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

News from Bucketheadland

News from Bucketheadland Issue 4 - March 21, 2009


Edit conflict

Sorry for the edit conflict! I hate them too. FireCrystal (talk) 21:00, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Hate what? - GunMetal Angel 21:00, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Edit conflicts... FireCrystal (talk) 21:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't get the clarity, thanks for explaining. GunMetal Angel 21:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
No problem. Thought you would understand initially. FireCrystal (talk) 21:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Shannon Lucas

Yeah thanks for the fix. I was just about to do that. My booklet does say that though. The 2nd edition of the album does in fact say that Shannon Lucas was the drummer. I don't know so I just went with whatever Shannon Lucas said. I just went to his Wikipedia article and it says that he says that he wrote the drum parts. So yeah I trust him more. I also noticed that he wasn't on the "This Calling" video. That video was released 2 months before the album was released. So i am confused as hell. Can you help me understand? I don't know why my booklet says Mickey was the drummer, but the 2nd edition said Shannon Lucas was the drummer.--Kevinlovesyou (talk) 00:07, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Because "This Calling" was a promo single before The Fall of Ideals was released, Shannon did not perform on that song, I believe Mickey was the one that did perform on that song and the reason why he was credited on the first edition of the whole album was because that was a mistake, later fixed for the second edition. -~- GunMetal Angel 01:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Okay then because I have both where the 1st edition says Mickey was drummer, and the second edition, which I recently purchased just to be sure, said that Shannon was the drummer. I also saw an interview where Shannon explained that he wrote the majority of the drum parts. So maybe Mickey was credited on only This Calling I guess. See I myspaced Phil and he said that Razor and Tie/ Prostetic records just copied and pasted the entire credits from the previous album. So that is the only reason why they had to release the second edition. Well thanks anyways for fixing it, I was just about to fix it, when I saw your edit 10 minuted after. Close one.--Kevinlovesyou (talk) 04:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Also dude, The Weak Willed is considered by the band as "the death metal song". I don't want to post anything without a reference, so I am coming to you, as you have been a member the longest. I have seen them live twice, and they refer to it as just what I said. I don't know if it is relevant to the part where you put that it is the most varied song.--Kevinlovesyou (talk) 04:35, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

That's odd, death metal does not have any of the standards that The Weak Willed shares in the song, (before, I would say it would be a deathcore song, but I noticed 5 words of clean vocals sung near the end). So if that's the case, if you can find a cite reference, it would be best to state on the article "the band refers to the song 'The Weak Willed' as a 'death metal song'", instead of stating "The Weak Willed is a death metal song". ~-~ GunMetal Angel

Oh definitely, but they just refer to it as "the death metal song" not a death metal song. It's some sort of a joke because everyone laughs and gets pumped, but the only reference that I would have is youtube videos, which of course are not valid.--Kevinlovesyou (talk) 02:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually, YouTube videos would be technically valid if they are used in the correct context, in this case, a sentence used, I know this because I noticed the article for Tool's third album Lateralus, a reference citation for a YouTube video is used for pronouncation for the album. In this case, I'm quite sure a video can be used for your theory, and above all, be sure to be bold. -~- GunMetal Angel 16:58, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your edits to Slipknot

Hi. Please see the featured articles, AC/DC and Nirvana, for a more correct format. There is no need for a "current members" subsection. Timmeh! 20:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I understand. • GunMetal Angel

Job for a Cowboy

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Job for a Cowboy, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Cannibaloki 20:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Categories nessesarily don't reflect the genre of the band if they are no longer under that genre, do they? I don't exactly know, that is why I removed it. -~- GunMetal Angel 20:32, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Based on what, you're telling me this?--Cannibaloki 20:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
What?? I was asking a question. -- GunMetal Angel

Re: Apologies

Really no problem. I know how you must feel because I too was confused about it all but in the same situation an admin explained it all to me and I just accepted it as it is. People at WP:CATEGORY and WP:ALBUM would probably say the same things. Anyway I was going to clean out and add to the category sometime soon. Also, you do know that on the artist album categories that all of their albums would fall into those categories which is not wrong in the way of categorization (but can be a little confusing to people that associate their albums to different genres). As for articles now, musicians that played other genres before should still be added - especially if the act is strongly associated with that other genre, for instance Job for a Cowboy with deathcore and death metal still being seen as having deathcore elements to some. Glad you understand now. FireCrystal (talk) 18:53, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

News from Bucketheadland

News from Bucketheadland Issue 5 - April 27, 2009


YES!!!



I APPROVE OF THESE MATTERS!!!



• THE APROVER •



Spaces

When modifying a paragraph, could you avoid adding or removing spaces around the paragraph? It causes the diff to show the entire paragraph in red (example), making it difficult to quickly see what you've changed. If you must change the spacing, then could you do it in a separate edit? For example: here, if you compare the top and bottom revisions,[3], then you'll see a lot of red, making it very difficult to see what I've done; however, if you examine each diff individually, then it's easy to see the minor changes. Thanks. —LOL T/C 05:31, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm aware of the dif' glitch. And as for making unnecessary spaces, it will not happen again, thank you. - GunMetal Angel 19:46, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Slipknot (80's band)

Stop putting in the Slipknot (1980 band) article "Not to confuse by the heavy metal band Slipknot". Although I don't believe that nu metal is a subgenre of heavy metal (I don't mind if it has the word "metal" in it's name), this is a thrash metal band, that is also heavy metal, if you like saying that. In your terms, there are both heavy metal bands, so is better to leave the disambiguation as "nu metal band". --Anarkangel (talk) 21:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Slipknot is not a nu metal band, maybe if it was just best to remove "nu metal" altogether. - GunMetal Angel
Yes, I think is better. But one thing I don't stand is that people says that is a heavy metal band. I have listened to Slipknot and at the beggining was nu metal, and now alt metal. Heavy metal refers to bands like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden or Motörhead. --Anarkangel (talk) 21:10, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Heavy metal refers to any/all bands that are heavy metal among Wikipedia articles, see Lamb Of God, Chimaira or Trivium. - GunMetal Angel

Re: Left Behind (song)

Please don't revert that IP again; I've blocked him for edit warring. Please find a citation and/or engage in constructive discussion (if you haven't already done so) regarding the genre. If you require any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me. Take care, ScarianCall me Pat! 22:42, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

News from Bucketheadland

News from Bucketheadland Issue 6 - May 8, 2009


You didn't use my joke!!! T_T. GunMetal Angel
It was not ready. Finish it first! ;-) I think it's rather flat to only address wearing a mask. Guitar World had a brief history of masked guitarists back in the October 2008 issue (with Tonkpils on the f'n title!). Well, just find a link here on Wikipedia or anywhere else on the internet that has both of them in it, plus being funny in a certain way. Did you know that Dan Monti has worked with both? Also note that any member can work on the newsletter, not only me. It's still a WikiProject and no personal blog or something like that. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord2 20:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I just wish there was some kind of funny picture where Carrol would pull the massive nose on the mask of Chris Fehn, or at least have some kind of creative Photoshop somewhere on the web, but alas there is nothing! -- GunMetal Angel
Well, and actually the Reese thing I found today was just too good to not include. I just couldn't wait until next christmas. *lol* Be patient, though I don't like Tonkpils I'll have a look for something... --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord2 20:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

How about this:

With Corey from Slipknot starting work on his side project called Superego, the rest of the band has headed into the studio with Buckethead to record an album under the working title “hockey stick guitars and goofy getups”.[4]

--Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord2 19:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Don't know what the link was about, all it seemed to say was just a bunch of randomness as far as how someone didn't like the 2001 movie Vanilla Sky. - GunMetal Angel
Well, you don't forget it's Buddyhead. And they certainly don't like Buckethead. --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord2 20:05, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
What? - GunMetal Angel
---> --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord2 20:24, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

userbox

that userbox thing on your page, "my userboxes". can you tell me more about that. how do you get it? what do you have to do to get the userboxes in there? CallMeAndrew (talk) 00:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

... Read. - GunMetal Angel

Orphaned non-free media (File:JFAC demo.jpg)

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RE: ?

I didn't revert your edits, I modified them. For example, your edits said "a song by Disturbed," mine say, "a song by American heavy metal band Disturbed." Your say, "a song by Disturbed, the song was released as a single, etc" and mine say "a song by American heavy metal band Disturbed, released as a single, etc." Mine are simply more descriptive. --The Guy complain edits 21:21, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. : D - GunMetal Angel 14:34, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Review stars template

Might I draw your attention here: Template:Infobox Album#Professional reviews: "Numerical ratings, letter grades and other non-symbol ratings should be shown using plain text in parentheses, like (3.5/10), (B) or (90%)." = ∫tc 5th Eye 15:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

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If a administrator comes across this, delete the image immediately, I uploaded a hi-res version of the image. - GunMetal Angel 16:19, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Hey you always criticize my edits but who are you to call the shots? as it seems to me it looks like more people agree with the changes i make then what you do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CrunchPuff (talkcontribs) 23:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, it seems to me your edits highly involve genre changes and trivial adds upon articles that are usually not tollerated. See WP:Assume good faith. - GunMetal Angel 00:25, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Parkway Drive

Singles are by no means inherently notable. We don't need pages on every single ones, especially ones that didn't chart. Most songs don't warrant an article unless they prove exceptional notability through coverage in multiple reliable sources. Please do not undo my redirects unless you address the problem by adding third party sources (i.e., significant coverage that isn't the band's official website/MySpace/etc.). Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer)

Those articles pass WP:Songs, and furthermore, when redirecting so for future notice, you are supposed to link the redirect to the album it's from NOT the artist's article. - GunMetal Angel 01:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
How do the songs meet WP:NSONGS? There're no sources, they didn't chart, etc. etc. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 02:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Nu metal

1. My intentions were not vandalism, do not assume that.

2. You decide after a month to post a message?

3. Consider putting a source next to the genre, it took me time to find out the album has nu-metal elements.--F-22 Raptor IV 00:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

You had no reason for your reverts either. Also, add a source before reverting back to questionable material. And assume Wikipedia:Good Faith.--F-22 Raptor IV 18:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Didn't I talk to you about backing up genres with a source?--F-22 Raptor IV 21:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

RE: July 2009

Maybe you're right about the spaces, but if you'd lurk moar, you'd see that even if the comma in the date isn't there in the source, it still shows up on the article, Wikipedia made it that way for a reason. Chris9086 (talk) 02:09, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

30 STM

What are you doing here? You have to not delete the sources. I deleted the Indie London's source because it isn't reliable: Kerrang! Awards: Enter Shakiri v My Chemical Romance - YOUR London Reviews. I deleted post hardcore because the source does not say that 30 STM are post hardcore. You don't delete neoprogressive because there is the source: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:3zfixql0ldke~T0 . I don't understand because you cancelled my edit, Can you explain me?--Matthew Riva (talk) 22:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm sick of the vandal that is continously removing categories, he should be blocked or better yet, the article needs to be semi-protected. As for the genres, please add them back with the sources. — GunMetal Angel 22:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: If you care

Sorry for my lateness. I don't really do specific requests but I'll take a look when I get around to it. Oh and an initial question: what exactly does the article need that isn't already found? FireCrystal (talk) 23:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh well. I might look it over anyway. FireCrystal (talk) 23:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Only thing I need to do now is buy it, haha. — GunMetal Angel 23:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Gunmetal Angel. You have new messages at Timmeh's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Timmeh 18:17, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey, what's up? Just stopped by to say thanks for fixing the grammer errors on my user page. It's funny, usually i'm a grammer freak, so yeah. I was just on your user page and I noticed we like alot of the same video games and bands, cool huh? But yeah, thanks again!:) Emo777 (talk) 10:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

July 2009

Metallica is also a rock band in broad context, but yet their article says they are a heavy metal band in the first sentence. If so, Aerosmith should get to keep the hard rock tag as well. Heavy metal is a specific genre of music that falls under the broader category of "rock", and the same goes for hard rock. Aerosmith and Metallica are both rock bands, yet one is hard rock and the other is heavy metal. I think it'd be better to clear that up by putting the more specific genre of music (hard rock or heavy metal) than the broad genre (rock). Also, hard rock is what the source (Allmusic) says anyhow...that Aerosmith is a hard rock band. In fact, Allmusic actually says Aerosmith is a hard rock band TWICE in the first sentence of their biography of Aerosmith. Nowehere does it just say "rock".

Additionally, the lead already says that Aerosmith was formed in 1970 in Boston, but in a more appropriate place. Not every band article needs to have the exact same first lead sentence that you think it should be. If it seems more appropriate for a certain band article to have it say when and where they were formed in the 2nd or 3rd sentence to make for a better read that fits with the chronological nature of the lead, then that's what it should be. Abog (talk) 20:10, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi there, Gunmetal Angel! Thought you might be interested in Motto of the Day, a collaborative (and totally voluntary) effort by a group of Wikipedians to create original, inspirational mottos. Have a good motto idea? Share it here, comment on some of the mottos there or just pass this message onto your friends.

MOTD Needs Your Help!

Delivered By –pjoef (talkcontribs) 18:15, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Bullet for My Valentine

Yes, you have. It's been three days since you last commented on the issue. If you wish to discuss it further, go right ahead, and I won't edit war with you. Timmeh 00:45, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I just got done with commenting. — GunMetal Angel 00:48, 22 July 2009 (UTC)