User talk:Goldsztajn/sandbox/generic-template

Comments on the draft

I see that you've included one of my articles, Giovanni Fornasini, in your draft. Two others of mine which you might like to consider including: Maurizio Giglio (a definite) and Filippo Illuminato (a possible). A 1944 event, not one of my articles, which is definitely worth including: Marzabotto massacre.

You could improve your template by using {{ill}} links on the redlinks, e.g. Brigate Mazzini. (I've had a draft translation of it:Rinaldo Arnaldi sitting in a sandbox for far too long.)

Between your suggested versions, I prefer the one without any picture. There were so many people and events, that singling out one feels wrong. Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 19:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: Hi! Thanks for commenting, much appreciated. Good idea to add Giglio and Illuminato (given the award and his age he's definitely template notable...and most importantly, interesting). I did debate internally whether to include the Marzabotto massacre. My concern there was it was not, as far as I can see, directly related to the Resistance in the way that the Ardeatine massacre was immediately a result of the Via Rasella attack. The Marzabotto massacre is also covered by the Axis war crimes template, but that makes me think it is worthwhile adding the Axis war crimes in Italy to this template. In terms of the redlinks, this was sort of an incentive for me (and others?) to work on them! My tendency when editing has not been to link to other language versions because I assume most readers don't look at other languages...You're right about the pictures, I'll go for the one without an image. --Goldsztajn (talk) 08:42, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Should add, I also need to attach something related to the SOE (and OSS) work with the partisans.--Goldsztajn (talk) 08:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

I've created the template now, I'll move the comments to the talk page there. --Goldsztajn (talk) 09:13, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

(ec) The difference between the Ardeatine and the Marzabotto massacres is, that the former was an act of cold-blooded reprisal and the latter could be justified as a military attack on a nest of partisans (though not the way it was carried out). Two different types of event, possibly worth separate classifications in a template.

If the list of people gets too long, it might be worth considering a list article about them; effectively, as an appendix to Italian resistance movement. There are other biographical articles which deserve translation from Italian WP; and doubtless others not yet written. (I've created several articles where there were no modern sources at all, and I realised I was writing the biography; with all the OR, POV and SYNTH obligations that carries.)

OSS were certainly active in Italy; but did SOE do much there? Their principal target was occupied countries rather than former enemies.

While writing Fornasini'a article, I watched L'uomo che verrà on YouTube. The conversations in Emilian-Romagnol had subtitles in Italian. Narky Blert (talk) 11:19, 24 May 2020 (UTC)