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Dear Geo Jetson, I'd like to discuss a bit your stoptail bridge article. First of all, thanks for your addition to Wikipedia :) However, I have a few questions and remarks regarding that article.

For a start, it seems pretty unclear for me that "stoptail" or "stopbar" is a bridge. I've never seen anyone/anywhere referring to it as a "guitar bridge type". "Bridge" in traditional guitar terminology is something that terminates a sounding length of string, not something that may be before or after that string. Stopbar is surely an important thing, but it comes after the bridge (usually tune-o-matic, piezo or some other variation). Tune-o-matic bridge may lack stopbar and just use "string-thru-the-body" technique or some sort of other tailpiece (like trapezoid, Grestch-style). It does not make "stopbar" a "bridge", just as machine heads that hold the strings at the top are not called "nut".

Given that fact, I deeply feel that the whole article needs to be readjusted and may be I should suggest merging it to Tune-o-matic article, as it discusses pretty close subjects. Most of the fact you're providing are closely related also to tune-o-matic bridge that is applied to guitar, as well as stopbar itself.

Another major note about this article is that it lacks reliable references and sources, as per Wikipedia's requirements. If you may find some serious evidence, for example, published classification system for guitar bridges that includes "stoptail bridge" as sort subclass, then we might restructure whole wikipedia categories system around it.

Thanks for your time and an article :) --GreyCat (talk) 19:51, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My intent is to expand upon this article to include discussion of other stopbar pieces and bridges such the lyre and trapese tailpiece. At that time, I will look for "reliable" references beyond those which I have already provided. See also the website of Gibson Guitar Corporation and search for "wraparound brdige" -- Geo Jetson (talk) 17:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]