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Army-Notre Dame rivalry move

When moving Notre Dame–Army rivalry to Notre Dame–Army football rivalry, your rationale "standard naming conventions". There are no standard naming conventions. You claim that all rivalries contain "football"; many rivalries don't even contain "rivalry". For example, the Wisconsin-Minnesota game is at Paul Bunyan's Axe. There is no standard naming convention, nor will there ever be. More on that on my response at the move discussions. Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 00:33, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Pitt-PSU

That article doesn't cover any other sports so I don't see any reason not to move it. CrazyPaco (talk) 04:43, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Rivalries that gots-to-go

You'd mention you were formulating a list of gots-to-go rivalries. Is the list anywhere, or is it not ready for publication? Purplebackpack89≈≈≈≈ 23:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Email me. I'll cut and paste the hit list in my reply, PB. I also have a sublist for rivalry merges, too, mostly incorporating marginally notable trophies back into the parent rivalry articles. The plan is to introduce them on the CFB talk page for pre-AfD discussion 4 or 5 at a time, then shipping them over to AfD once a strong majority of CFB editors are already on board. Should make the process less painful, and also help WP:CFB clarify its own standards for CFB rivalry articles. LONG overdue. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 00:01, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I see that you are helping us fill in Category:American college football consensus All-American navigational boxes. Please add them to the annual team article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:08, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

 Done. We aim to please. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 05:11, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Adrian Moss

Hi DL - just wanted to check in and see if you were planning to create an Adrian Moss article to finish up the 2006 Florida basketball champion template. I almost removed him, but thought I'd check in with you before I did. Hope you have a happy new year! Rikster2 (talk) 19:45, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

WP:OVERLINK states: "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, and at the first occurrence after the lead." Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:59, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey, Eagles, I'm familiar with WP:OVERLINK. Not sure what your particular concern may be based on your somewhat cryptic message above, but if it's regarding the repetition of a link after the lead, repetition is permissive (i.e. "may") not mandatory. Otherwise, I almost always repeat infobox links in the main body text. Having been through the Good Article review process several times, the best counsel I received on point was to consider the length of the article in repeating a link from the lead in the main body. Rule of thumb: short articles—no repetition; long articles—link repetition may be appropriate. Please let me know what you're thinking with a little more specificity. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:08, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Specifically [1] and [2]. As long as you are aware of the guideline, I'm fine with your edits. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:19, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
E, I just saw your edits to the Alonzo Johnson and John Reaves bios. I have no problem with the NFL Draft and All-American links being repeated in the main body text. I try to avoid repetitive NFL Draft, etc. links when the articles are short stub/start articles. FYI, I usually don't include a mention of the NFL Draft in the lede unless the player was drafted high or really low so as to make it noteworthy. I'm not really sure how it came to pass that being a sixth-round pick rated a mention in the lede, but obviously several NFL editors feel otherwise. IMO, it's a bit like being a third-team high school All-State selection. (LOL) The Alonzo Johnson and John Reaves articles are mostly my handiwork, and I decided that their first-round draft picks were noteworthy, especially in light of the fact that they were both NFL "busts" to one degree or another. Reaves, of course, did his best pro work in the USFL. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:32, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
In the case of Tom Brady, however, his being a sixth-round pick is very notable. Mostly your handiwork, eh? Just kidding. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:55, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I would say that Brady is definitely the exception that proves the rule. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:19, 31 December 2011 (UTC)