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Hey!

Found you on here! --DCFC10 (talk) 21:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Seddie

Sorry, but in order for it to be included, it must meet the requirements of notability using reliable sources, which you have yet to do. Ωphois 02:05, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

And you can prove that it is his account? Regardless, the only source you had that uesd the term "Seddie" was a fansite. Unless you can find a reliable source that uses the term, there is no basis for the subject. Ωphois 02:19, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
The article on "Brangelina" has 35 sources from highly reliable sources, and the term is a part of mainstream popular culture. Sorry, but there is no comparison between "Brangelina" and "Seddie". Ωphois 02:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Generally, wikis cannot be cited. They are fansites, and not considered reliable sources. As for a wiktionary entry, you still have yet to provide any mainstream mention of the term. Ωphois 03:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Again, you have yet to provide any mainstream mention of the term. A reliable source mentioning the term is required for its inclusion. Ωphois 03:38, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable sources should answer your questions. Hope this helps. Ωphois 03:42, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I just mean a newspaper or source that would be considered reliable. Not a fansite or forum. Ωphois 03:53, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

iCarly Wiki

Technically, both of you are edit-warring, but it is good that you tried to discuss it on the talk page. I would recommend not attempting to readd it right now, because both of you can potentially get blocked. If you have evidence that the wiki is stable, I would recommend talking to C.Fred. C.Fred is an admin who watches over the iCarly page. Ωphois 22:38, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

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reply re: 'decline'

Has nu metal declined in popularity? Do you have reliable sources to include in such an 'anti-nu-metal' article section? It seems to me that Korn, Deftones, Slipknot, Soulfly, Chimaira, DdevilDriver, System of a Down(currently on hiatus), Il Nino, Sevendust, Mushroomhead, Stone Sour, Papa Roach, Otep, Disturbed, Drowning Pool, Demon Hunter, Mudvayne, Hellyeah! and Godsmack are still VERY significant acts in the heavy metal world... and ALL OF THEM are still just releasing the same albums of nu metal over-n-over-n-over again without ever really changing their style. Some try to brand them under a different flag... but it's just because the term nu-metal has some sort of Wiki-invented negativity to it. But it doesn't cover the fact that all these bands are as 'nu metal' as they were when they started... and all just as busy as they ever were (minus the sleeping SOAD... who will return to the nu metal universe... eventually) If all these nu metal bands are still touring, recording and selling... many of them "big-time"... how is it in decline? I would love to see the sources of it. If reliably sourced it would be an OK addition to the article. But Korn, Deftones, Soulfly, Chimaira, Ddevildriver, Mushroomhead, Stone Sour, Disturbed, Demon Hunter and Hellyeah! have all recently released (or are about to release) highly anticipated albums. Most of which have sold/charted well. And these bands are big draws on the summer festival circuit across North America and Europe too. So if all these nu metal acts are still releasing popular nu metal albums.. and they are... and still touring successfully... and they are... where is the decline? Wiki libs (talk) 13:27, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Rollback

The other place to look for changes that might need reverted is Special:Contributions/newbies. It doesn't pick up edits by unregistered users (IP addresses), so it misses some vandalism, but it also excludes edits by autoconfirmed users (who should be making good edits). I patrol that page often, looking for vandalism and for newly-created articles that should be speedy deleted. —C.Fred (talk) 02:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Re:Isabella

Sorry, I've just been busy on a few other Wikis: Phineas and Ferb Wiki (600+ edits), Phineas and Ferb Fanon (75+ edits), AnswersWiki (200+ edits [including deleted pages]), The Unoffical DisnwyWiki (110+ edits), 2 minor edits on Wikiquote (as a IP) and 3 edits on Randomess Wiki. On the article, if you could get sources (like Candace "Gertrude" Flynn has and help her article as well, I would appreciate it. I mean if Candace's article is looking pretty good for a new article , why can't the Fireside Girl troop leader have her own article? Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 03:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

There are a few images of her over at the Phineas and Ferb Wiki that are labled as {{Fairuse}} for her in that exact pose. Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 23:58, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: M9 museum

Hi, I've declined your CSD tagging of M9 museum because "no sources, possible conflict of interest" is not a valid CSD criterion (you can read up on it at WP:CSD). If you still think the article warrants deletion, I suggest submitting an AFD or proposing deletion. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 15:25, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Isabella Garcia-Shapiro

You know, you can revert multiple edits at once. You have to click the left bubble to the version that you want to go to. Blake (Talk·Edits) 22:59, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Alvaro Guillot 1931-2010

Hello Confession0791. I am just letting you know that I deleted Alvaro Guillot 1931-2010, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. Kimchi.sg (talk) 05:57, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Noted --Confession0791 (talk) 05:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Not only {{db-a1}} was incorrect, but also the "different criterion" {{db-a7}}. The article clearly "indicated the importance or significance of the subject." I recreated it, see Alvaro Guillot. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:01, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
No need to apology. Handling of this article was completely wrong ... Instead of careful examination of possible benefits for this project, the article was deleted shortly after its creation. I can imagine this procedure applied only to blatant vandalisms or attack pages. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:27, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

X-files: Kitsunegari edit

Hey Confess, All I can really suggest regarding the Kitsunegari edits made was that particular synopsis was screaming "Change". I've been reading the synopses for X-files episodes, and none are as poorly constructed as that one. Not only is the 3,992 words excessive for a plot description (as compared to 888 words for "Schizogeny") but the formatting is nowhere near similar to the past 81 entries. While the partial changes made may not be within the formatting requirements of WikiProject The X-Files, it is a crime to insist Kitsunegari stay unchanged at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.201.5.100 (talk) 23:33, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Candace Flynn

Here is her image: 100px This is the first picture I've loaded here, so I don't know much about image policy, so I went with what was most relastic. Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 01:47, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Gabriel Chevrette-Parrot

Hello Confession0791. I am just letting you know that I deleted Gabriel Chevrette-Parrot, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. Kimchi.sg (talk) 03:16, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Just a suggestion

Try not to tag articles as having no content within a minute of the article having been created. This is not to say that an article would necessarily become notable later on; but there is a general consensus now that new articles should not be tagged for speedy deletion as having no context (CSD A1) or no content (CSD A3) moments after creation, as not all users will place all their information in their first revision. Do contact me on my talk page in case there is any confusion. Warm regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 05:37, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Serienfan2010 and Candace

I think this user is trying to deliberately get me blocked due to some weird thing when I was told to have the List of Phineas and Ferb episodes like the Wizards of Waverly Place one, and upon further check on his/her talk page, I've seen that they have been blocked twice for ignoring warnings. Also, Candace's picture is possibly non-free, but there was no license on it when I loaded it on my computer, but do you want me to get a better one of her that is free-use? Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 19:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

And now 78.54.221.163 is trying to get me deliberately blocked as well! Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 19:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Am I in trouble due to the 3RR or is it wavied due to vandalism??? Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 20:10, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I did get a message about the edit war, but undid it since the user has been blocked for a week and the IP for 1 day. Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 00:55, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I know you were trying to help

Please keep in mind that an editor's own name is not a username violation, even if they are using the account to violate the conflict of interest guidelines. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: COI on Mission Dolores mural

I'm fully aware of the issue and I'm working closely with the user. You may not have been aware if this before you added the tag, so I removed it. Viriditas (talk) 05:54, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Update: I've added {{Notable Wikipedian}} to the talk page.[1] Viriditas (talk)

Reason cited

Hey - there is a reason listed for the removals at List of Legacy of Kain characters. The site no longer exists, and was noted. 60.241.188.222 (talk) 07:44, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Estimated Towels

Re your message: My guess is more like an attempt at a fresh start. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm back

Hopefully the vandals or other people will be nice to me. After all, I had about 732 edits in varioius types, including talk, reverting vandalism, cleanup, and adding some info before the edit wars started. Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? —Preceding undated comment added 02:45, 11 September 2010 (UTC).

WikiProject Phineas and Ferb

You can sign up today and make sure it is not defunct. Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 18:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

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why im noting remove ing speddy tag

well i might of but not on perpos i am editing the page to make it more sutibal and less advertising sory —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wtf305 (talk • contribs) 09:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello Confession0791, thank you for cleaning up that mess on my user page, it's truly appreciated. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 03:18, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Rollback

Hello, per your request, I've granted you Rollback rights! Just remember:

If you have any questions, please do let me know.

--HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:44, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

ICarly: iSaved Your Life

You forgot to put a rationale in the AFD listing. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 20:39, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Additionally, you seem to have created two nominations for it 10 minutes apart at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ICarly: iSaved Your Life and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ICarly: iSaved Your Life (2nd nomination). Delta Trine Συζήτηση 20:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Re:Nu metal edit

Hi, Thanks for your recent edit to the nu metal article. One thing I would just like to point though is that the reason it was worth removing is not because it's in Japanese. Actually, it's rather that all the page cited is is just a track listing and other album details for the particular album; it doesn't say anything to back up the claim. English Wikipedia policy on the matter is that non-English sources are allowed even if English language sources are preferred and translations may be requested. (see Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English sources) I know you're not necessarily going to know about all the policies and guidelines when you've only been here a few months; you weren't to know. Happy editing! Munci (talk) 13:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Substantial users on wikis WP:EL

Just barely over 100 users is NOT in any way "substantial number". Active Banana (bananaphone 20:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

You can clarify your position if you would like at Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard#.22Substantial_number_of_editors.22_-_External_link_to_a_wiki_for_TV_show_Victorious Active Banana (bananaphone 20:29, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Help

Help me (You was send me a Message to my talk page about signature)--JamesMarshallHendrix (talk) 06:06, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Talkback: SpikeToronto

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Thank you

Thank you for the welcome. I've been following Northwest Plaza's life over the last 20 years. One, by going there, and two in print. It's hard to find sources that also have the same quotes as the printed stuff over the last 20 years, as most online articles usually move forward, not backwards. The intense love I have for that dead mall is so great that I want its page to be perfect- a kind of memorial if you will. The city council can't seem to decide what to do with it. Because of its large size though, one thing seems to remain clear, and that's turn its 122 acres of land into usable space, which means demolishing the mall. It will be a shame if that does happen, as it was a VERY large mall- nearly 2 million sq ft!! When the building does come down, all that will remain is pictures, and this article. I'm not sure I'll stay with Wikipedia when Northwest Plaza is just a memory, but thank you for your wanting me to stay. I'll think about it. --76.235.89.206 (talk) 09:41, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I was in high school 20 years ago, and that's why I've been following it since then. Yup, it was THE place to go. Problem is, it's so far away, since I'm in the metro east, that you have to really want to go to drive that far out there. It's like the Mills today. I'm REALLY starting to hate that mall, as I found out it's only 7 miles away from Northwest Plaza, and even though it's just over 1/2 the size, it's newer. Since Westfield didn't want to upkeep the mall, it fell to shreds, and they decided to sell it, rather than try to save it. Westfield couldn't have kept up Northwest Plaza while it owned it? Oh, I did think about adding the section "Demise of Northwest Plaza" after that damage section. Someone really knows their mall history, because so few people knew the Bread Co had a fire then left. Actually, if you look, you can still see the smoke and water damage outside, so it's not that unknown.--76.235.89.206 (talk) 10:00, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

WP:ELOFFICIAL

from WP:ELOFFICIAL "Minimize the number of links. Wikipedia does not provide a comprehensive web directory to every official website. Wikipedia does not attempt to document or provide links to every part of the subject's web presence or provide readers with a handy list of all social networking sites. Complete directories lead to clutter and to placing undue emphasis on what the subject says." Active Banana (bananaphone 22:10, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User talk:J.mat corporation

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Hey!

Hey! It's your old friend Secundomia from Wikia! How's it going?

I see you have progressed in wikipedia! Congrats!

DCFC10 (talk) 01:05, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

iCarly

Hey. I was wondering the same thing. My only guess would be the wiki-wide integration of italic titles into the infobox template code. Ωphois 00:11, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Advice

I would say to make sure you're involved in a breadth of activities. There's nothing wrong with specializing in/having a preference for certain activities, but make sure you get the whole spectrum as much as possible—sourcing and formatting, deletion (AfD discussion and speedy deletion tagging), images, free vs. non-free content (especially images), vandalism fighting, etc. Most of the RFAs these days seem to focus on whether the candidate has demonstrated competency in several areas, as opposed to being specialized in vandalism fighting or image tagging. —C.Fred (talk) 01:45, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Body Odor and Subconscious Human Sexual Attraction

This is well out of my area of expertise! You might want to post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biology for someone with knowledge on the subject to review the article for factual accuracy. Skier Dude (talk 04:50, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Good question! I'd say, maybe {{wikify}} or {{cleanup}} to deal with the citations/footnotes problems -and- either {{technical}}, {{Expert-verify}}, or {{Expert-subject}} to deal with the subject itself. Skier Dude (talk 04:59, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

iCarly episode split

I am going to start working on the split on my project page. I am going to try to find as much production info as I can find. I have seen other acricles that don't even have that information. Any way I was wondering Do you know of artciles for the season that have been created but redirected and when time comes I will post them there. If you want you can look at any of the work I am going to do opn my project page when it is up and make any changes you thing that it might need. Just let me know you made some changes. I am hoping to get this up and running by the end of next month.I do agree what Aussielenged said on the talk pageJoey Tomson (talk) 19:03, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Westboro Counter-Protests

Hi. I believe it to be appropriate to mention Phelps-A-Thon in the Responses section of the Westboro Baptist Church article. In fact, adding a mention of this form of counter-protest is overdue in the article. With over two hundred Phelps-A-Thons taking place in the past two years, they are a nationally recognized response to WBC. Phelps-A-Thons should be mentioned, but certainly in a way that does not violate soapbox standards. Suggestions please? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilyg78 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. I listed a few of the bigger Phelps-A-Thons in the counter-protest section, but believe it would make more sense to have a Phelps-A-Thon section, as the Phelps-A-Thon website is a dedicated to counter-protesting WBC. I don't know of any other groups whose mission is to oppose WBC, expect for the Patriot Riders, which has a separate section. Please advise.talk' 07:16, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Question.

Is that better? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Okay, see? (talk • contribs) 05:16, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes --Confession0791 talk 07:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Re:Re:Bulldog

I've never seen that comment, actually. This, after much digging around for the diff, is what I was quoting from. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 09:04, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

  • I don't know anything about Bulldog outside of his actions during this case, which I perceived as bullying in nature. If there is some deeper reason for this, I'm going to have to leave it up to other people to decide—I'd rather not get involved in something that messy. My only concerns here are the unjust, seemingly bullying actions being taken against Epeefleche by Snotty and Bulldog, and the extremely out of line block perpetrated by Kww. It's just a disaster all around. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 09:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Leon Thomas

Hey! why did you move my edits. Are you insane! First of all that was not a fair image second its true.You shouldnt just go around and fix good edits and im reverting them talk


December 2010

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RE: St. Louis County

In response to this I would say that the media is not the authority on how cities are classified in St. Louis County since their reference of them varies between news outlets and is not always consistent. I have seen some refer to Ladue, Frontenac, St. Ann, Webster Groves, Overland, etc as part of Central County while some stations do not even use central, they only stick with N, W and S.

How they are classified is not exact since for the most part there are differing opinions on what is where. For the purpose of this Wikipedia article, the areas are based on a combination of their geographical locations as well as available date (county government, media, public opinion, etc). For example some may consider Wellston to be North County because its "poor" but county government says it Mid County and it lies within the central preceint of the county's police patrol.

As to why I stated this had been resolved is not based on the article's Talk page but based on the edit history and issue resolution that has been noted in contributor edits over the last few years. The article's section prior to your edit reflects what the contributors have essentially agreed on based on their edits of the article.

You are right, in regards to I-44 and others, there are some overlaps when highways are used however, that is inevitable even when changed to your edits of Page Ave and Lindbergh Blvd. St. Louis County is just odd like that. If you were to layer a map with Municipal boundaries, zip codes, highways, school districts, and fire districts nothing would line up correctly. It is for that reason that through contributors of the Population and Residents section the classification of cities was more highway and geographically based. While some may say Ladue is West County because of its wealth and status, that's not exactly true when looked at on a map. It is central. When this section was first added to the article several years ago the designations of cities was socioeconomically based and opinion driven. This produced an article that was loaded with opinion and class generalizations. The section's evolution arrived at the current descriptions which stays neutral of such stereotypes.

I feel that the contributor consensus within the edits and description of the edits that has resulted in the current version of the section is valid and should be kept that way since there is no absolute standard. Unless the classification of cities were put to a vote or made official by some decree the best alternative is to base this section on the culmination of edits which has resulted in the current content. Either that or the entire Population and Residents section should just be deleted.

St. Louis County

The media has always referred to St. Ann, Overland, St. John, Breckenridge Hills, Vinita Park, Wellston and Normandy as North County - all of which are south of I-70. Page is the boundary.

Ladue and Frontenac are always referred to as West county, because of their affluence.

If I-44 is the boundary between west and south, then part of Webster Groves is in South County.

None of this has been discussed on the talk page, so it has not been resolved.

We need reliable sources to avoid an edit war. --Confession0791 talk 02:47, 6 February 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.195.152 (talk)

Dispensational Foundations

"(Lindsey, LaHaye, Haggee), draw straight from classic dispensationalism, which is from Darby, not Watts". Perhaps you're referring to premillennialism, rather than ecclesiology? It's the formation of the Church that's foundational in dispensationalism, not premillennialism. Almost all dispensationalists are premillenial, but not every premillenialist is dispensational. Duke Ganote (talk) 04:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

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Re:Hey, TenCents

Hi. :-). --Parstin32 (talk) 16:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

IP impersonation

Actually, the IP copied one of my comments from earlier in the talk page. A little questionable, but not really impersonation.—Kww(talk) 20:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Response

Hey, I'd love to answer any questions you have. I'm not an expert, but I grew up in a non-denominational Pentecostal church which is influenced by WOF and prosperity gospel ideas. I'm about to head to bed right now, but I can email you tomorrow. Ltwin (talk) 08:41, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

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I did receive it, and I do intend to reply and am sorry for not doing it earlier. I've been busy the past few days: I've been out of town and I've gotten obsessed with reworking the spiritual gift and Montanism articles. However, I am going to reply to your email hopefully tomorrow. I confess I don't know much about covenant theology so I'm going to have to look in to it. Ltwin (talk) 07:01, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

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Yeah sorry for not responding sooner. I'm just super busy preparing to go back to school and researching for graduate school, etc. So my responses may be late in coming, but I haven't forgot.
I guess start with what you know and love. Start simply as well. There are a lot of Christianity articles that are small or average size that are just in bad shape grammar and style wise. Start by copy editing articles until you run across one you are knowledgeable or super interested in enough to do research about it. That's really how I started. I began making small contributions to Pentecostal and charismatic articles. Ltwin (talk) 11:37, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Reformed and Lutheran Beliefs on the Rapture

Hi,

You added a line to the Rapture article about Reformed and Lutheran beliefs on the Rapture. Could you please add a reference to document it? Roman Catholic and Orthodox beliefs are documented by other sources. I think that you're saying that Reformed and Lutheran beliefs are that no group will be "left behind"--which is the same as the Catholic and Orthodox beliefs. If that's the case, it would just be cleaner to say that Catholics, Orthodox Christians, and Reformed and Lutheran Christians all believe in rapture only in the sense of the resurrection of the dead generally.

--JoeLibrarian (talk) 18:09, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Good call. You can change it to be more accurate. I'm not sure if any mainline churches teach rapture theology, so that would include the United Methodist Church (a primarily Arminian body), as well. We may have to do some research. – Confession0791 talk 18:18, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I'm much more comfortable working with Catholic, Orthodox, or Anglican sources, so if you can find an authoritative quote or reference that documents those churches' beliefs on rapture, it would be much appreciated. I guess, any source that describes the final resurrection would do--but I'm wary of just grabbing a web post without further training in those traditions. And I think it's very important for Wikipedia to have an accurate article about this topic: "rapture" is only familiar to Catholics, Orthodox, and certain other Christians from what they see in the news. It would be a shame if people thought that other traditions had differing beliefs on the subject, when in fact they believe the same thing. JoeLibrarian (talk) 00:30, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

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Trust me, I didn't a while go when he began talking nonsense. He always claimed he spoke with Aussie, Kevinbrogers, and then you came up. Considering he was banned, he only had the email excuse to go by and I didn't believe that either. Like how he said he got an email from Adriana Lemus regarding the iCarly seasons within minutes of sending a message to her back in January when I too wrote to her and another Nick press writer around the same time and have yet gotten a message back from either of them for two months now. But at this point, I stopped needing a response from them since I uncovered lots of good evidence I needed on behalf of the split season. He also denies writing that IP Address comment on the iCarly episode list Talk Page. Everything he said on there is things he's threatened to say over on the Wiki and he also mentioned the email thing. The guy is very complicated. - Jabrona - 05:31, 15 March 2012

Color

I personally think this red fits more and I thought we ere discussing about this color red. All the other colors are more of a deep color. - Alec2011 (talk) 16:12, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I added it. You're opinion is always welcome. - Alec2011 (talk) 18:53, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Re: roll back of Rapture edits.

"Pre-tribulation rapture theology was developed in the 1830s by British evangelist John Nelson Darby and the Plymouth Brethren[9]" "John Nelson Darby first proposed and popularized the pre-tribulation rapture in 1827." Both of these statements are demonstrably incorrect. To replace the historical truth that I inserted with error that has been thoroughly refuted in published works is, with respect, unforgivable journalistically. But I suppose I should have left well-enough alone. As a journalist and former managing editor with one of the world's largest and most respected journalism organizations I can tell you we had a standing ruled for all staff: "NEVER use Wikipedia as a source, the information in it is unreliable because it is poorly researched and usually biased. Do your own research."

Now that I am semi-retired I thought why not use my 40-plus years of editorial experience to contribute some small thing toward helping improve Wikipedia rather than complain about it. I guess I should have just left it alone. The roll-back of what I inserted merely shows that the flaws of Wikipedia are endemic to its nature and, as such, cannot be changed under the present paradigm. I must say, however, that I am disappointed that the discredited work of John Bray and Dave MacPherson is allowed to stand as fact without correction. I accept that there are valid, varying views on the timing of a Rapture (or whether indeed there will be a Rapture.) However, I suggest with the greatest respect for you and your efforts, that it is one thing to propose and propound views based on Biblical exegesis; and quite another to allow blatantly false statements to stand despite adequate research showing them to be false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattfivefour (talk • contribs) 19:02, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

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